Okay, so after A1 was recommended to me, I’ve read some threads about it, and I understand why AD doesn’t use it.
But I’d still like to try it. I know that love scent offers it in a stand alone oil, but are there any sprays that have it? Colognes?
When I do a web search, it’s pretty tough to discern what products actually contain A1.
I still have some Nexus, which says it contains “Androstedienone” (spelled with an ‘e’ not an ‘a’). Is that the same thing?
One product I did find, is called [removed for legal purposes], available at [link removed for legal purposes] (I hope that’s not the site that is banned here. ). I have heard hardly anything about it. And the fact that it comes in Axe scents is kind of comical. Makes me wonder if it’s legit.
So back to the original question: Is there a list of products that contain A1?
I would honestly just get the oil alone. We know that a company I am not going to name has a patent on it so I am waiting to test some of that out. I am wondering my self if Chikara from love-scent contains it, they name the three of the sex pheromones in it out of the 7 so I’m not sure what the other 4 are. Just would probably be easier to get some of the A1 by itself from love-scent and mix your own.
Its okay, its Erox. We have mad respect for them, which is why we don’t push it with their patent rights. They innovate their thing, we innovate our thing - everybody wins.
Okay wasn’t sure on that one so I wasn’t going to risk putting it. I am curious are you going to do any testing on their product when they release it John? I know I will and it would be great to have someone to compare with especially some one with so much experiences in the field like you.
I’ve already read the threads on the subject, and understand why AD doesn’t use it. I’m not here to argue it. I’m not even in a position to judge it. I’m just wondering which commercial products do contain it. Or should I ask in the love-scent forums?
You will really just have to check around. I am going to assume the Chikara from love-scent does because they only state 3 that they use on the site but like I said it contains 7 male sex pheromones in so I am going to assume A1 is one of those, I would check around on love-scents forums and do a search for it or even just google it but I am interested in finding out as well so I will do some research.
I wasn’t here for any of that but from what I’ve read it was before their patent went through. We ran out what we had and then stopped production.
Remember that patents aren’t immediate. lol
It can take you YEARS to get a patent and in the mean time people can freely use your methods or whatever it is you patentend. They may not even know. Look at the cellphone industry in re: to Nokia.
I asked around and found out that products called Aurador and Pheromax both contain A1. Pheromax can be found on love-scent and just google Aurador and you can get it for about 40 bucks from amazon.
IFM wasn’t suspended in a perfume or cologne and thats what the patient indicated. AD found a loop hole. They suspended it in a herbal mix. I believe it was Clary sage. It smelled a little funky but you could cover it easy enough.
Revisions to patents happen though and Erox closed the loop and few years ago so when AD ran out of IFM they respected that patent.
This nonsense about women using it to depress men stemmed from a feud between a popular predominately women’s pheromone site and AD and is unproven. There are studies that indicate the A1 can effect the mood in males as well as women. Studies showed activation of the amygdala, the area of the brain responsible for emotion processing, plus areas involved in vision, motor control and goal-directed behaviour. It can make men more introspective and quiet. No study I have ever found and done without the influence of the scientists have ever caused clinical depression or suicidal tendencies. However study participants that already suffer from severe mood disorders such as bipolarism did suffer large mood swings but this occured with anone.
A1 should be monitored when used in a form where people can abuse its effects or the dosage cant be held in check but in a predosed mix or used by a responsible experienced pheromones user who understands dosing its fine. Because of the potential of abuse I can understand why AD pulled it from the shelves but many pheromones can be used with the intent to harm. A1 can be abused by male users to effect other males moods as well as women using it to do this. Anone can cause extreme violence if misused and fear in women but its not pulled.
I do understand there view. They had to go with there conscious and what they were comfortable with. Pheromone technology is still in its infancy and still a work in progress. But I think A1 is getting a unfair bad rep because of misinformation presented here.
Also, I don’t know why people keep so narrow sighted instead of looking to create - they want us to take steps backwards and get lazy.
That’s not why you love us. You love us because we work hard and are some of the “crazy ones”.
And that’s why we love you guys, because you let us be crazy.
I’m over talking about old stuff so I won’t be posting to any more A1 threads if I can help it. Hope you guys can understand, there’s lots of science to do.
). I have heard hardly anything about it. And the fact that it comes in Axe scents is kind of comical. Makes me wonder if it’s legit.