Will IS work on a friend who lost interest, and would TUTH cause congruence problems?

I was planning on wearing IS to this girl’s house that I’ve been to alot. She was interested in me at one time, but probably not now. I was wondering if IS would have an effect? I have heard that 'mones are more effective on strangers than they are on friends. Should I gradually increase the dose for each visit to warm her up to it a little bit instead of creating a drastic change?

Also, I am 5’8" and I can be the leader of the pack and very talkative when I’m in a good mood, but most of the time I’m overcome by inner dialogue and my mind can’t keep up with what I’m saying, nor can I come up with quick responses to others in conversation. Would it cause any congruence problems to use TUTH? I’m not planning to use it the next time I go there, I’ll use IS first and then see, but I wanted some opinions. Thanks.

I don’t think TuTH would cause congruence issues if you start to fumble with words. But I do agree with using IS first and then assessing the situation to see if you need to use TuTH or not.

Start using IS. Start with 4 sprays, there is no problems whatsoever. You might even want to refresh with a couple of sprays later. Keep with using IS, until you see CLEAR interest form her and when you feel like you are 100% to take it to the next level with her (and that should after at least 3-10 times of using IS, depending on how well she responds and even if she does you must know if you aren’t just friend-zoned). IF you are friend-zoned, you might have to add on IG or A314 to your mix with a couple of IH sprays too. If you are not friend-zoned, add that 1 spray of TUTH with a couple of IS added on to.

Going with TUTH when she’s not interested, you will come off as creepy as hell and a horn dog :smiley:. That’s a no no.

Keep us updated :wink: !

I’ll have to wait for them to come in the mail first before I try anything. And I sure as hell don’t want to come off as a horn dog, hehe.

Also, I see you edited your post. I am probably friend zoned. I have only ordered IS and TUTH, though, and can’t afford anything else right now. I have heard that sometimes you get a free gift of other kinds of mones. I hope I get lucky.

If shipping is free or at a very low cost, getting A314 (A) or (b) spray, or even just getting IG will be very worth it if you are really friend-zoned. IH will also be a necessary.

I would say try the IS first, and start at 4 sprays. She shows interest. Then you’ve got a chance. You got to step your game with her and convert that mild interest to getting you out of the friend-zone and eventually, getting her hot :wink:. I suggest you read a couple of books about PUA. Some advice in these books do really make a difference sometimes.

I recently tried out IG, IS, and IH X2, on a girl I was firend - zoned with and I got great results from her and the girl she was working with. Lol

I should also mention that this girl is already aggressive and playful, but seems to have toned that down a bit now. I guess she was doing all that out of attraction.

My IS came in, with a free gift of IO. I’m probably going with her and her mom to a church event somewhere today. They also said that might not work out, and we may end up just partying at her house.

The TUTH didn’t come in yet, because several hours after I ordered the IS, I decided I wanted some TUTH, so the orders got separated, but I’m willing to try both IS and IO tonight, unless you guys think that isn’t a good idea.

Also, I sniffed the nozzle and damn do I feel good. Don’t know if it’s placebo or not, but I noticed a difference right away.

EDIT: all plans are cancelled tonight :frowning:

I’m sorry for that! I’m sure you will get another chance to try these mones out though :wink:
Oh, my advice for you is just to stick to ISHINE, since you might be coming off too “soft” or “beta” with just socials on. Spray up to 4 sprays and bring the bottle with you because you will want to refresh 3-5 hours after the first application.
Good luck :wink: !

Are the pits a good spot to spray? I always hear about the wrists, neck, chest, and hair and such, but I haven’t seen anyone posting about pits. It’s cold out, and the pits are always reliably warm for diffusion.

It’s definitely got an effect. I had on 4x IO and 2x IS, and random people came up to me and asked me how I was doing while i was in line to order. Later, i went to the girl’s house, and it had an effect on her as well. When there isn’t a party or a movie being watched, she’s usually in her room on facebook.

Today, she was on facebook on the laptop in the living room, and she was alot more talkative and responsive than usual. I had to go with her brother to go pick something up, and had to go home after we were done with that, so that was all I saw of her tonight.

Also, she ended up telling me about her new boyfriend. I know the dude, pretty quiet guy, at least around me. I guess this girl is going to be just friends, then. Even if I could get with her, I’d feel like a dick.

I still ended up with a big confidence boost, though. Plenty of other fish in the sea, and on THIS fishing trip, my bait isn’t dead.

Noooo. Very bad spot actually. Aside from it being a site where pheros are naturally released, it’s warm and moist and a good spot to break down the pheros and ruin their effectiveness. The bacteria there wreaks havoc on pheros. Neck, chest, wrists, jaw line, top of the head, these are more common. Best thing to do is to experiment and find what works best for you. As it’s very cold here, I tend to stick with the neck (front and back) as it’s the only area that has any exposure at least for me. Spraying anything on the chest doesn’t do crap for me in these temps.

PheroJack, way to kick some butt man! I have seen some awesome ad major growth in you dude! But Phail
What I would do is this- get IG, use 1-2 sprays and get her going, get her seeing that you are a “classy motha f**ka” because there is nothing classy about cursing…
Then I would throw AMMO and IS in there as well. But IG and AMMO (including IH) will bring her feeling that she could trust herself in you again. I honestly have full faith in this, her views of you will change, might not make you 2 an item but things will see a difference I can tell you that!

Where to spray you may ask?
Pits are a no-no…just as GT said, bacteria and such, break down and yeah, dont lol. I personally like Upper pecs, neck, hair and forearms. Me however I can spray anywhere aboe my belt line and still get effects, but I also have a ridiculous high thermogenesis/ high body temp. I spray things that I want weaker affects on my abs, but some how I still get the results lol. Also doesn’t taste good for the lady whenever she gets out of hand but that is a different story :stuck_out_tongue: Everyone has given great advice so far though!

(but IG for your base feel you personally will benefit the most!)

I know you guys are suggesting IG, but I can’t decide between that and A314. I can only afford one more once the gift card comes in, and that’s it. So IH and Ammo are both out right now.

This Is what tea would do, I would buy IG and 1.23 a/b. You could order to go of IG and 1.23 too! I like the first choice better since you are new A314 is a bit much…IG is what you are missing right now!

Listen to Tea. Tea is good for you :smiley: IG definitely. Nice smooth alpha like vibe without being overly intimidating which can happen with a314.

I guess I’ll get IG and IH in To Go bottles. I don’t have enough money for any full sized ones. Do those require more sprays to achieve the same effect?

Oh, and I read over IG and it seems like it would suit my personality well. Thanks.

Nope, the amount of mones are basically the same, in the togo spray and the 30 ml bottles.

When you order, also, you can ask NICELY in the Comments box once you finish applying your GC and are paying with your CC, for a Togo of IH. You can order a Togo of IG and AMMO. Then, hopefully, you’ll get a gift of IH. I’ve gotten many Togo bottles like this with my orders… If they can make it happen, they will!!!