Will P79 layered with Ammo push me into overdose territory?

This week I had planned on testing p79 solo. Unfortunately I made a mistake with the order by forgetting to choose neroli. I have a 30ml bottle of the stuff at 10mcg per spray, unscented.

For better diffusion I’m going to have to test this product layered with others. After seeing a few posts on p79 it seems for most to be an enhancer of whatever vibes you’re already sending so ordering unscented isn’t too bad.

I’m going to test p79 with various products, ammo included. My question is quite simple: My sweet spot for ammo is 2 sprays but as p79 is an amplifier when combined with ammo will it take me into OD territory? I’m going to try this anyway but was just curious to see if anyone else got bad reactions when combined with they’re usual amount of none.

Wildflower, I don’t think you have to worry too much about P79 amping AMMO to an OD. Of course start low. Nothing wrong with wearing unscented putatives either, just be aware that diffusion and longevity will vary. I get all my experimones and putatives unscented. P79 is not “just” an amplifier either so it would be good to try it on it’s own. Have a blast!

I’ve yet to run any experiments with the P79 in my stash, but have been noticing many pheromone doses need adjusting when added to.
For example, P86 thus far seems to require the amount of Instant shine used to be adjusted.
(1 of 2x vs. 2)
Then again this does make sense seeing as they can both be described as pheromones with ‘visual’ properties.

P79 for me has acted like a neon-sign
pointing in the direction of the other pheromones i have used,

saying “mmm smell this” rather than
exaggerating the mone chosen.

when i first started playing with P79 i thought i could get more out of anything i paired with it, but then realized it wasnt getting me further but just getting me there faster.

im not sure if anyone else had this experience.

i dont remember anyone saying the 'none became too much-
i do though remember others pairing it with 'none on purpose because it took a sexier lead.

These observations are closer to the mark, and have been of a similar experience when I’ve worn P79 with other pheromone mixes in the past.

I find that worn with 1 extra product the P79 enhances the product you put on. But it’s real qualities ride to the surface when worn with a bigger mixture of products as it tends to steer or “round-out” the mix you wear, so that all the products in your mix will do what they should do in tandem together.

In summary, I find the P79 will allow for the products you pair up with it to “hit their mark” more intensely.

lor and snakeeyes hit it on the mark. i’ve not had a bad experience with p79.

Thanks for all the input guys. I guess when I read that p79 was an amplifier (and some people get negative hits from it) I thought that it amy “amp” my sweet spot of none up in to OD territory. I guess it doesn’t work like that. Thanks again for the advice. Can’t wait for an oppotunity to test it.

It does seem to work as an amplifier (I couldn’t help but notice its effect in that department) it seemed to me like adding it to a modest combo produced some of the effects of a bigger combo.

I think from trying it solo (only 20mcg) it is some sort of sensory enhancer, and it seems to help me notice details. I think I called it the “Sherlock Holmes” phero when I wrote up my report of wearing it solo. Because I noticed all sorts of odd things in the environment and about people, that reminded me of stories of the Baker Street detective and his observational ability :slight_smile: So maybe the enhancement of other pheros is down to the basic sensory boost that P79 gives, first and foremost.

Perhaps, then, it shifts the threshold of those affected, so that they notice things that they didn’t before, including but not limited to the other pheromones in a mix - IOW, previously subliminal things become liminal or supraliminal, which may or may not be to the liking of the person affected. In that scenario, you wouldn’t be perceived as wearing more -none than usual, but people would instead tend to notice the same amount of -none more, an amount that they normally filtered out of their perceptions by whatever subconscious mechanisms they use. (I remember being in a cafe wearing the 20 mcg of p79, it wasn’t altogether a very noisy place at all but I felt a bit overwhelmed by the surround-sound goings-on, and couldn’t focus on any one sound source for a while. It wasn’t too bad, though, I rather enjoyed the novel, disorienting feeling! But we’re usually very good at filtering our auditory environment - Cocktail party effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - and I daresay that goes for the other senses as well!)

Okay, practical usage? Yes, you will need to readjust your ratios when including p79. I use different amounts of p79 with different pheromones. 1 spray of IS2x, 10 mu p79. 45mu p74, 15mu p79. 1 IH4x, 5mu p79. Etc..

I do recommend trying it on its own. It has it’s own qualities in addition to the ‘amplifying’ effect.

For me, the key word regarding p79 is ‘drive’. P79 drives things forward. It’s like having the wind at your back. It’s not really motivation, for me motivation is more of a mental thing. This is a very physical presence for me. Very primal, almost instinctive action/movement. It’s the kind of feeling you get when watching a powerful animal move around. You can feel its power, its grace, its speed, its agility, its precision, etc..

In this manner, it can ‘amplify’ things. Have on some -nols? p79 drives them to talk. Have on -none? p79 drives them to act on it, positively or negatively. It’s a different focus than TAF, different ‘amp’.