So from what I heard from mobo is that I can use MX297 as a buffer for the none. So I think the official mix for the sci-fi con(probably about 55% asian girls/45% every other race of girls) is gonna be MX297 with some AMMO.
Yes - With many Asians, you should look at None as the secondary/steering product, not the primary.
Also remember that the more Westernised/non-traditional the individual Asian’s background, the more they tend to be comfortable with more overt None in the mix - and of course you will find the odd exception of any age/race who goes very well on the most overt None you have. Its not that uncommon! 
If that’s the case, then at least 2/3rds of the asian girls there are gonna be the westernized type. But I guess we’ll see once I get there.
ITs on a scale, certainly but you will find that the leaning towards liking Rone or predominantly social mixes is still often there, even in the westernised ones.
That’s why starting low with any sexual is good - you can always keep a togo in your pocket and up the dose if needed. Its easier to work this way than dosing high and trying to haul the mix back down with IO or other social moderators - and less wasteful too.
So I had alot of small things happen so its hard to write about them all(which I’ll try later) but I got a question about AMMO or just pheromones in general. So I got my first DIHL yesterday at a subway train station. I cam up an escalator and there were 2 girls walking in the opposite direction maybe 10/15ft away. As we eventually pass by each other(maybe 3 feet), one of the girl stops dead in her tracks and turns towards me. This happened so fast, I only caught it out of the corner of my eye.
So here’s my question, how long does it take the opposite sex to detect the mones. On this occasion I had 1 spray of Ammo on each side of my neck and I was a lil dressed up but even then I’ve never seen a reaction like.Again, this whole interaction took like 10 seconds so I’m just wondering if it was the mones or just me.
Also if I was talking to someone one on one, which mix would be better for sparking attraction AMMO/IS or AMMO/MX297?
Side effects
So I discovered a rather nasty side effect of using MX297. Last saturday I used MX297 but when I got back, it was pretty late and I just crashed. The next day, I had pretty nasty headache and nothing seemed to really work on it. Well this past saturday, I crashed again and I forgot to wash off the stuff. So in addition to that same kind of headache, I also had a dizzy spell that lasted maybe 3 1/2 or 4 hours. Although I think the dizzyness came as a result of me mixing AMMO and MX297.
Moral of the story: Wash off your mones when you call it a night.
Everyone is differant, but they should pick it up right away. Most of the time i find it hits them right away with Ammo. But sometimes you have to keep your targets in your mone cloud for a while. The longer the exposure the better. Some hits can be subtle while others can be DIHL like you experienced which is awesome with 2 spray Ammo good work.
I would go for the Ammo IS combo out of those 2.
Good Luck
So I’ve made a new discovery and I’m curious if anyone else has seen this before. I realized whenever I layer my mone mixes on top of each other, they seem to cancel each other out. Like individually and even wearing mixes in 2 different places, I see always notice something happening. But whenever I layer them, it’s like I’m not wearing anything at all(even when I get into close proximity to someone).
I tend to agree with you when the two products are different, like, say Ammo, TUTH, IH, IS, etc… I stopped layering different products like that.
But I get great results with TAC on Ammo. But TAC is more of a dampener than a stand-alone product. I suspect some Putatives (steering molecules) can be layered over regular products with good results too. I also get great results with anything over hedione, but that’s not a mone. Those are my work hypothesis for now. But I still have to see where they lead.
Ok cool I thought I was going crazy lol. Like I tried Mx297 and Ammo and Ammo and IS(all I have so far) and it was like I just wearing cologne. By the way, have tried putting on petroleum jelly before applying mones? I know for regular cologne it’s a trick to make it last longer but I’m not sure if it’ll work with mones
I think lotion would be better than petroleum jelly as far as a skin barrier is concerned. A skin lotion without antibacterial fragrance or agent. It’s know to work great for A314 oil. But I don’t think it’s suitable for spray mones. Better off on clean skin and avoid antibacterial soap and SLS.
Bummer but hey at least I know this now so thanks for that.
No problems, man. I’m starting to think that even my shaving cream is the enemy! I always routinely bought menthol smell stuff since my teen years (that was ok then, but this went on in mones era? Silly me). I’ll go look for unscented stuff. If I could find a natural product with less chemicals too, would be nice. Even if you wash the foam off, I’m sure there is some leftover, it remains right where you apply the most mones in a day.
I used to use Burt’s men shaving cream and it doesn’t have the chemicals in it. I just didn’t like the way it lathered so much. I am kind of a health nut.
I bought a britta shower head for like $20 at my local hardware store and it takes out all the lime and scale and chlorine of the hard water. Most companies treat the water for bacteria and then it comes out of your shower head onto the skin and just kills off all your natural bacteria. So for $20 it is worth looking into for sure and it installs with a simple wrench in 5 minutes.
I found that my mones actually last longer to.
When you say you used to use Burt, that’s Burt’s Bees? You switched, what do you use now?
I have one these real expensive rainfall shower heads. I don’t see myself replacing that with a gizmo , but maybe they make inline filters you can plug upstream from the showerhead, I’ll have a look at this.
Yes they do make inline filters also if you are happy with what you have thank you for bringing that up.
Yes Burt’s Bee which is fairly good. I went back to my gillete gel. I am still trying to find a good shave cream without all the chemicals. Let me know if you find one.
Ok so it’s been a week and I have to say the convention was a mixed bag. I actually got creative and tried several different combinations of AMMO, IS, and MX297 at different times of the day(I used hydrogen peroxide to wipe the slate). It was also the first time I tested my mones around my friends who’ve known me 4 years or longer. I’ll try to sum up a field report later.
I also ordered a togo IG and I’d like if anyone could give me some notable mixes using that(particularly hoping that I can use ammo with it).
Lately IG is a populer product. I would check out Von Phero, Conjurator, Smellymen journal as you will find a lot of entries with this product
I have looked at all your posts, I think this has some good potential. Let me give you some advice if you don’t mind.
I’m sure you know all of this stuff this is just a refresher
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Open people up, mones are tools to be used. You will see a lot better results if you open people up. This will also increase confidence and women can detect that.
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Master one product before you move on to another, this includes layering products. This will save you time and money in the end. If you don’t know what a certain product does you cannot tell how it will steer a mix with multiple components in it.
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Be your signature, if you wear ammo, be sexy and flirt with girls, if you wear 297 be the party guy. If you act one way and your signature is different people will dismiss it.
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Don’t be afraid to fail, it is the only true path to success.
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Always talk to the ugly girl first the hotter ones know your not shallow. Ugly girls always have hot friends.
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Ask for advice, I know mobocaster is tired of hearing from me. I would not be as far as I’m now with out his and many other members advice.
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Always wipe front to back this maybe the most important advice one could give. Lol
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Tailor mones to your environment, and example of this is wearing 297 to a hospital, or a cancer ward. Not a party atmosphere at all.
So I’ve been really busy so it’s been hard to get myself back on here but here’s kinda the gist of what’s happened so far.
With IG it seems it does pretty much nothing for me. The only thing I noticed was a couple of female shop employees who were a tad bit more helpful to me. One even asked for my name which has never happened before. But other than that nothing. And I’m saying as an already observant guy who was on the lookout lol. No real obvious IOIs. In fact, after hearing about how specifically this works on asian girls, I hung out with a couple while wearing this. Nada. And I’m saying this knowing IG is a slow burner and I’ve been hanging out for 4-5 hours.
Also I’ve found mixing IG doesn’t really make things better either. I read one guy’s post that IG and AMMO cancelled each other out on him and I was hoping I’d be different but yeah. I pretty much noticed that on me too. I tried with IS but it was like the IS overpowered the IG based on some of the common hits I’ve read about/seen from both.I don’t know it’s weird.
Theory: I’m not white and I take it that alot of the guys on here are so maybe that’s got something to do with why it’s not working with my biochemistry. I’ve said/misused that before but this time it seems pretty true. I’m a little disappointed because, personality wise, IG seemed to be a better fit for my lifestyle.