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After reading this forum for a while I decided to try and order some of the mones just for fun. Have to say I already tried some Alter Ego from that other company before, and I noticed that pheromone colognes really DO have an effect on both yourself and the people around you. In short: I always felt very sexy and confident when wearing that product, and the girls around me really noticed that and changed their behavior accordingly (e.g.: much more flirting). After reading this forum I got interested in AD products, and also realized that I might not have been using Alter Ego in the right dose. (didn’t know shit about ?none build up for example, I always applied it on my clothes lol). Think I have some experience with OD effects hehe. So really nice to have all this information collected here on a forum to prevent that in the future!

Couple of days ago some Ammo, IS, IH (to go), A314 (spray) and TUTH (to go) arrived, together with a free sample of P102. Better start with a lot of different options at hand I thought :slight_smile: Awesome delivery service by the way, very fast with DHL International.

Current target girl is a very cute Latin girl in her early twenties - lets call her Carla - with a very hot body (solid 8,5). I myself am caucasian, mid-twenties - Western-Europe. She’s an exchange student I met two months ago, and we’ve been hanging out a couple of times since with a group of mixed friends (girls + boys from many different countries). She’s intelligent, pretty open in her communication and confident about her looks I think. Although, she can be a bit shy, and according to one of here male Latin friends she’s average looking in her own country (I think he has high standards :stuck_out_tongue:). Two weeks ago I went to visit this event together with Carla, one of her girls, and two other dudes. I was wearing the last bits of my Alter Ego bottle. We spent the entire day together, and as the day progressed she was giving me more and more IOIs (slow effects of the oil?). She also really opened up to me when I asked about her - and started telling me all sorts of things about her youth and divorced parents and stuff when we walked 1 by 1, so she really seems to feel good around me. Later on in a bar after we enjoyed a couple of strong beers she couldn’t keep her eyes of me, and couldn’t stop laughing about my stupid jokes and stories. We had intense eye contact for 4-5 seconds a couple times, which was really nice (she has those dark and mysterious eyes I really like). Think she really was picking up on the mones I was wearing. It also helped that I charmed and teased the other girl (also a sold 8) a bit that day I think. All in all the vibe was pretty awesome. The other guys gave me loads of respect (I am a pretty good communicator - you know the funny guy, when I have a good day) and the two girls were giving me the attention I wanted from them. Around 6PM it was time to leave and I decided to go home early, as I went clubbing till the break of dawn the day before.

So I kinda know this girl seems to like me. And boy do I like her. My problem is that I’m not really good at making things sexual. I’m really good when it comes to talking and teasing, so I don’t end up in the friendzone too soon. However the escalation part of the seduction process, with the kino, the kiss close and stuff I’m just not that good at by nature (yes I’ve read the books you know I’m talking about). I’m just one of those ?cold? Westerners who usually keeps his distance and doesn’t touch people a lot by nature. I’ve had 2 LTRs before, so haven’t had that much practice in seducing in my life. Never really needed it when I was happy with my girl.

But now there is Carla.. SO I decided to get some help from AD mones. Really excited to test these products and see what they can do for me! :cool:

Will try and keep this journal updated with all my mone adventures, so I can reflect on my own experiences.

Also it should be fun to get some input from more experienced users, on how to up my game and improve congruence with the products I bought :slight_smile:

PS: my native language is NOT English, so please forgive me if the grammar suuucks :wink:

Mix: A314/b 2 sprays to the throat/jawline area, 2 sprays IS neck and hair

Location: professional environment - recruitment event white collar office job

Self-effects: very confident and cheerful

Very nice mix! It was the second time I wore A314, but I’m already convinced this stuff works wonders for me. Self-effects were cleary noticeble, and the scent smells good, but maybe a bit too heavy and mature for my taste. At a workplace environment it worked out fine though. I was attending a recruitment event in which we had to do some group assignments. Usually I really have to speak up if I wanna make a point in a discussion, but when using A314 people constantly were ASKING for my opinion and seeking validation from me for their own points. It was SO great :smiley: These effects were on a mixed crowd of people around my age btw (23-25 year olds). Definately got massive respect from the younger folks. Some girls also seemed more flirty, and some girls maybe even a bit intimidated by my display of confidence. Have to test more though, it wasn’t obvious flirting. Was wearing my suite and felt very relaxed, while usually in a competitive recruitment envrionment everybody is a bit nervous.

Halfway passed the day (after 6 hours) I went to the bathroom and added 1 extra spray of A314, 2 sprays of IS and 1 sprays of IH to my wrists.

After that it was time for a network lunch and I went out talking to some more senior people. Usually I feel quite intimidated when talking to people higher up the ranks, but now it was no problem for me at all. Some HR girls in their end 20s really seemed to like me and treated me as one of their own. Asked some questions about the working environment and how it REALLY was working there - and got straight honest answers, maybe the IH effecting them (usually they just bullshit and give you a marketing story). Really got the impression my mix worked even better on people a bit older than me. People around my age or a bit younger were maybe too intimidated by the A314 (but I liked it that way at this specific event :wink:).

Also talked to some really senior guys (60+) who were talking to some girls my age. When entering the conversation I immediately got everyone’s attention. Pretty sure it was the A314 doing the work here. Sometimes the guy even displayed insecure body language and didn’t dare to make eye-contact for too long with me, as I was asking some critical questions haha. Maybe a bit too much A314?

In love with A314 already! :smiley:

Mix:
Ammo 3 sprays (regular) to throat and neck area,
Instant Shine 3 sprays to hair and arms

Location: casual house drinks first, massive party later

Self effects: energetic, bit hyper maybe

First applied the Ammo. Went for 3 sprays just to see if I can handle it and don’t OD on the none. I seem to be able to pull off this many sprays of Ammo quite easily. I’m naturally quite a talkative person that doesn’t have a problem with being the centre of attention. Ammo only seems to attract more attention to me. Especially when I add some shine to it.

After adding IS I always feel like I’m in a hurry the first couple of minutes. This seems to be in line with the sugar rush feeling other people post about on the forum. Gotta be careful not to add too much shine and let the effects settle in before going into social settings too soon.

Anyway, this mix really seemed to work well while having the casual drinks at a friends’s place. I was there with a couple guys and girls my age. Most of them were Latin. Met some of them for the first time then, and everybody was very nice and responsive to everything I said. People made eye contact with me all the time, and when telling a story they always mainly seem to direct their talking towards me, as if I’m the alpha guy they need to convince.

Also noticed this mix puts me in the right mood to be cocky/funny. I neg and tease much more easily then I usually do. Probably the ammo that lowers social inhibitions and makes me not care about other people’s responses.

Later on the night went to a massive college party where people could throw bodypaint at each other. Not really ideal for mones diffusion I know, but a perfect setting to get physicial straight away with a lot of girls. Really, the bodypaint at these parties is just an excuse for making out easily :wink: Got a lot of hits and the result was that everyone wanted to attack me with paint, more so then they did with other people.

At least 4-5 random girls (all of them blond) ‘attacked’ me and were challenging me to come and play with them. Ofcourse I responded and gave them some fresh colours.

Halfway passed the night when I noticed the effects of the mix were fading, I decided to add a spray of TUTH to the throat area. What can I say? This stuff seems to be really powerful. Even with all the paint flying around, the pissy smell of the none was all over me. Can’t say I liked it, but according to other users on the forum other people around me dont necessarily perceive the smell the same way as I do. Perhaps I’m just very sensitve to the none smell, will have to test more.

About the effects: a lot of people stared at me (guys and girls), and I really didn’t have a problem making my way through the busy crowd. Everybody seemed to be getting out of my way as soon as I came near. Some hits were definately negative, but had some positive hits from somewhat older women (late 20s) too.

Last hour of the party I went bezerk and just tried one extra spray of my to go TUTH, just to see the effects. Definately got ghosted by some of the people. Crowd was pretty young (18-30), so I shouldn’t wear too much of this around my target group (girls 18-25). Some friends I was with at the party also seemed to be easily agitated for some reason, although one of the Latina girls told me outside after the party that she thought I was a really cool guy. Didn’t take it as a sexual hit though, and don’t know if it had anything to do with the mones.

Reminder to myself to be careful with too much unbuffered none.

While on the way home I struck up a conversation with a cute Indian girl (mid-twenties) in the bus. Started with the small talk - where are you from, what do you do etc. - and made lots of eye contact combined with open bodylanguage. We had some similar interest so all went really smoothly. Bus ride also lasted quite long, so we had time to get to know eachother. While the conversation proceeded, her answers to my questions became longer and longer, and the tone of her voice more enthousiastic combined with a lot of smiles. While making more and more eye contact she also seemed to be getting a bit nervous (excessive eye blinking), in a good way. Vibe was very positive.

Bus ride ended, we had to travel in different directions. She was supposed to go to some after-party with friends, I was going home with my friends and was waiting for them while buying train tickets. Indian girl followed me and told me the after-party plans were cancelled. I was a bit pissed
as I had to wait 1+ hours for the first train. She suggested to travel to another train station on the other side of town near where she was living - as there I ‘might have more options’. This was an obvious hit, but unfortunately I realised it too late. Told her I had to guide my international friends home, and couldn’t leave them alone. Kissed her on the cheeks and told her I really had a good time talking to her. She gave me a cute smile and went home.

Was angry at myself for not being sharp enough to pick up the signals and shoot her down. Would’ve definately hooked up with her, and in retropsective I wouldn’t have failed if I made a move on her. She was waiting for it. In my defense it was 6 in the morning after a heavy night of partying. Have to make sure this doesn’t happen again. But happy to see that a whiff of TUTH apparently works well on Indian girls :slight_smile:

Mix:
Instant Shine 3 sprays to hair and arms

Location: family BBQ

Decided not to go too heavy on the mones around my family, as I don’t want to confuse them and avoid embarrassing moments.

Figured some shine wouldn’t do any harm. Tested it as a stand alone product a couple of times and as I’m still a starter with the mones I really feel the self-effects of the IS.

Usually and I’m pretty laid back. Social definately, but comfortable shutting my mouther too when I don’t feel like talking. IS put’s me in a positive and energetic mood. I really WANT to be talkative, and people seem to wanna interact with me too :slight_smile:

Most pronounced effects were on my parents. Usually the atmosphere is quite tensed. It’s not like we don’t get along, it’s just that I’m not too good in engaging in their small talk over dinner. I just get annoyed (it’s sad I know). With the shine even my mother was dropping jokes. Never seen her do that before!

Next time when the atmosphere in my family circle is a bit uptight, I will definately turn to the IS again. Perfect to establish an upbeat vibe that subtlely seizes everyone.

Now I have to buy a bottle of IS to test myself, it’s not too expensive either :slight_smile:

Yesssss my experiences with IS so far have been spectacular! Don’t know what I like better: the self-effects or the effects it has on other people. Better bonding and talking with my parents is definately something that is on my to-do-list so to say… IS helps me with that :slight_smile:

In what situations do you wanna use IS XyzN? What effects are you looking for?

Also: just came back from a pop festival and I had MASSIVE hits. Too tired to write them down now though, I’m totally trainwrecked after 3 days of intense partying and drinking. Will get back tomorrow.

Right now just on the social sides of things, I’m just using ammo, is and a togo of Io…also have p102 that made me real giggly at work recently for the first time trying. I’m saving up for when my school starts back up in August as I don’t go out much on my own.

Attended a pop-festival for three days passed weekend. I knew from other people on this forum that outside festivals are not ideal for pheromone diffusion as your range is smaller outside. Decided to give it a shot anyway with a very simple mix. Had MANY hits.

Mix:
Ammo 2-3 sprays in the morning to the neck and throat area; re-upped with 1-2 sprays in the late afternoon
2-3 sprays of Instant Shine to the forearms, hair and neck; re-upped together with the ammo

Made sure to take a shower everyday so I didn’t have any excessive none build-up over the days by the way. Wore fresh clothes every day, so no mone build-up in the clothes either.

Self-effects: confident, happy and in a good mood in general. But hey I was about to party for 3 full days so what do you expect? :wink:

Decided to wear some douchy hipster festival clothes; take it easy and chill during the day with my buddies. Night time was for partying and chasing girls.

Had MANY MANY random looks in general, and I kinda figured most of them were from blonde younger girls (16-22). Already noticed this at earlier parties while wearing this mix, but now I’m starting to get convinced Ammo+IS really is a blonde attractor. Maybe my conclusions are biased though (as I read the blonde attractor thread here before), so I will keep on testing to find steady results.

Will list the more obvious hits down here:

Hit 1: met up with a female friend of a buddy of mine. Super cute brunette, decent 8. Definitely my type. While introducing I leaned in for a hug and a kiss on the cheeks so she could have a good smell. Result: Seemed like she used every excuse to interact with me the entire day. Also gave me a lot of shy, submissive smiles that girls give to guys they fancy. She barely talked to my buddy with whom she is pretty close. Didn’t end up making a move or anything, as I heard she has a bf…

Hit 2: right after I re-upped, went buying some extra festival coins. Paid, was about to leave, when the girl behind the counter (blonde, in her late-20s/early 30s) randomly yelled: ‘Hey you smell great!’. I’ve been wearing several normal colognes before going into mones, and never had obvious hits on my scent. Certainly not from women older than me (I look a lot younger than my actual 25). Also: she was sitting behind GLASS, with only a couple of holes in hit. Scent must have been really strong :stuck_out_tongue:

Hit 3: while ordering some beers at the bar, HB9 and HB10+ strike up a conversation with me. These girls were VERY hot, and as I’m not the best looking guy in the world, they usually don’t pay that much attention to me. Both of them were from Ireland, very blonde, maybe from some hydrogen peroxide who knows. After some friendly convo about the music and how they are having such a good time blah blah, they ask me to teach them how to seduce a man in my native language. I give them some quick lines on how to compliment a guy on his looks (‘hey handsome’ - that kind of stuff) and they end up using the lines on me when I leave to bring the beer to my buddies. SCORE!

Hit 4: at the bar again, blonde girl (early 30s, still very cute) is standing next to me with her boyfriend. She’s hugging him from behind. While he is ordering beer, she strikes up a conversation with me. This happened a lot these days by the way, people started talking to me without me initiating anything. Just a simple look was enough for girls to open me. Of course random happy chitchat at a party/festival is normal, but it really happened more with cute girls this time and my feelings are the mones had a part in that :slight_smile: So anyway, blonde girl lets go of her bf and starts talking to me. We happen to study in the same city and attend the same kind of parties. As she leaves with her bf she leans in for a hug and gives me one of those classic Marilyn Monroe over-the-shoulder-glances as she walks away.

Hit 5: first band of the day. Was watching them in a tent, while recovering from a heavy hangover. Three blonde teenage girls (again) on my left. It was getting hot in there, and people were standing pretty close to each other. Blonde girls were paying more attention to me and my buddies then to the people on stage… (looks, hair play etc.)

Hit 6: at night I lost my friends so I decided to walk back to my tent. Was in a cheerful mood after a great day - already pretty drunk. Playing my tambourine, blonde HB9, and brunette HB8 (early 20s) - both taller than me (I’m pretty tall, but girls can be really tall here) start jamming with me on some flutes and invite me to their after party. Didn’t make it there as I lost track of them while ordering more beer hahaha…

Hit 7: last night of the festival, but easily the most EPIC one. Before going back to the camping site, me and my buddies (all mid-20s), struck up a conversation with some young British chicks (18-19s). We were singing some songs out loudly, and they were digging it. Blonde girl with blue paint hair (6) is all over me, while we walk back to the campsite for an after party with the entire group. We end up chilling at their tent, but there is no beer. I volunteer to go and get some six-packs that we left at my tent, and while I’m there I re-up 2 sprays of ammo. Got lost on my way back to the girls’ tent, but I call my buddy and the blue-haired chick comes and pick me up at the nearest toilets. She says ‘I’m sooooooo happy you came back’ and gets all touchy while we walk back to the girls’ tent. Wasn’t that into her so decided to just get back to the party again. While I enter their tent HB9 (brunette, alpha girl of the group) yells in a cute British accent: ‘Hey baaaaby come and sit hereeee!’. She already spotted me before huh? Anyway I sit next to her, spread out the beers.. Other people pass on some weed. And after some time I started some intense kissing with HB9. She really seemed to be very turned on. We lean back a bit from the circle of the group, and she leads my hand into her pants! After that things got funky, right next to where everyone was sitting :cool:

Hit 8: same night, on my way back to my tent I was euphoric and not ready to sleep yet. All my buddies had already left, so I joined some random people who were partying on the streets. Cute Belgian girl (7) was sitting on the ground and staring at me. I sat down next to her and within a minute or 2 we were making out.

Mix:
Ammo 2 sprays to the neck area
IS 2 sprays (neck and hair)

Location: bar with two buddies and one gf

As I’m really starting to like this simple mix, I decided to test it in a different situation, as in: not sarging for girls. Yesterday I went chilling at a local bar, just drinking a couple of cans and catching up with friends. Nothing special.

Didn’t notice anything too much out of the ordinary. Self-effects were the same as before with this mix.

My two buddies - both alpha’s - didn’t give me any shit. Gf gave a lot of smiles, but nothing special/seducive or anything.

It was a quiet night so not too much interaction with other people.

Girl behind the bar (HB7, late twenties) made a bit longer eye-contact than usual when I ordered beer.

Some old folks standing close to bar struck up a conversation with me and were convincing me to come to a gig in the bar next week. They were happy to see more younger folks around in a bar that is usually only filled with heavy boozing 40-60 year olds.

All in all nothing too special to report. Guess the most important conclusion is that I can also wear this mix in more calm, seated down situations around friends :slight_smile:

Mix:
Ammo 4 sprays to neck and chest
IS 4 sprays to neck, hair and arms

Location: casual drinks in a bar first, dancefloor later

Self-effects: I’m aaaaaawesome :smiley:

Went testing the ammo/IS mix again yesterday. Decided to up the sprays to see how far I can go.

Still not getting ghosted with 4 sprays of ammo, so that’s a good thing I guess. Think the IS stearing helps and makes me more cheerful and approachable.

Was meeting up with a good friend of mine who is gay. He definately liked my mix hehehe… Lots of submissive body language (leaning his head on his arms when I spoke, exposing the neck, lots of smiles). So this stuff definately also has an effect on males. Thank god he is a good friend who know’s I’m into women. If it wouldve been a random encouter he probably wouldve started to hit on me :stuck_out_tongue:

Also met up with a female friend that I hadn’t seen in a long time. Beta-female, tomboyish redhead that I’m not really into. She was happy to see me. We had a good chat but she found it hard to maintain eye-contact with me. Think it definately was my sig, cause usually she is not a shy person. Don’t think it was a negative hit though… She definately wasn’t put off by my presence.

Later that night I joined one of my oldest friends with his gf for a drink. Been wearing this mix around him last weeks. We used to spend a loooot of time together before going our seperate ways (different colleges). Yesterday he told how much he loves hanging out with me again. Don’t really take it as a phero hit though, we just have a good connection.

Also, got compliments from his gf on my new haircut. When I later that night returned the compliment she went a little red :stuck_out_tongue: By the way not planning to seduce her or anything, just want her to feel comfortable around me, as her bf is one of my best friends.

Dancefloor was pretty empty sadly. There only was a group of acquintances that I sometimes hang out with on a saturday night in my hometown. One of the guys had a new girlfriend (HB7, brunette, alpha chick). She gave me a couple of ‘who is this guy!?’-looks. When we introduced she seemed to be more focused on eye-contact with me than on my words, as she forgot my name. Later on the night she asked for my name again, and repeated it a lot the rest of the night, as if she was making a mental note to herself to DEFINATELY remember my name. Thought it was a bit weird behaviour towards a person you just met for the first time… Even when she left she specifically name-called me and said goodbye with a smile. She didn’t do this with other people, so I comsider it phero related odd behaviour.

After the bars closed we stood outside and talked. Had a convo with the sister of a friend of mine (HB8, 19). She seemed a bit intimidated and even a bit edgy around me. Think it was too much none for her.

Have to remember that when I’m going after white chicks younger than me, that I have to go easy on the ammo.

Mix:
1 spray A314/b under the nose
1 spray ammo on the chest/neck area
4 sprays Instant Shine (neck, hair, arms)

Location: steamy hot dancefloor with loud music

After a long day in the library felt like hitting town, so it was time to test some mones. Was using A314 as well during the day to see it if helps me focus on my work, and yup it does. Really love the self-effects A314 always gives me. If I had to describe the A314 feeling: 3 C’s - calm, collected and commanding. First two c’s are definately postive, don’t know about the commanding :smiley: Without mones I’m already a serious guy, maybe even a bit cold and distant to some people… Add some A314 and maybe I’m perceived as TOO serious. In a professional environment I can see the benefits of this (and I’m already convinced that I’m gonna wear this when I land my first job) - still have to test more to see if it does me any good in social situations.

So that’s why I decided to throw one spray in the mix before going clubbing. Mainly applied the A314 under my nose though for the self-effects. I feel it really gives me the confidence I need when interacting with women and just people in general. When wearing A314 I’m never afraid to make eye-contact, I’m never afraid to touch people, I never speak too fast and the tone of my voice resembles the ‘completely in control’ vibe that I’m feeling. People do pick up on this. You really become the high status alpha guy, but not sure yet if that’s the thing you wanna go for on the dance floor. All the girls I opened (18-25 range) were very receptive to me. They listened and answered my questions, but I felt like I had to do most of the talking. Sure sometimes they started asking questions back, but when I answered those I always saw some reluctance in them, as if they were afraid to ask more.

Come to think of it all my questions where always kind of serious too… so maybe that were self-effects working. Also just have to work on my small talk game skills. I have difficulties with being playful and generally steer convo’s in a serious direction (studies, hobbies, ambitions etc.).

Saw smiles and hairplay too, but interpreted it more as signs of submission than obvious flirting. Definately had less obvious hits than with a normal ammo/IS combo. With ammo/IS people usually start talking to me, yesterday nobody did that. Maybe the A314 was too much for the mostly young crowd. Tried to steer the seriousness a bit with more IS than usual, but don’t know if it worked. I did feel happy and upbeat, but still serious and just comfortable being in my own space.

Washed off the A314 I wore during daytime by the way before applying new mones, but maybe there were still some residuals? How long does this stuff stay on your skin, even after washing it off with a wet towel? Must say I felt the self-effect of the A314 for a full day, but maybe my mindset just adapted to the vibe the A314 triggered.

Will have to test more, but my initial conclusion is that I probably should let A314 out next time I go partying. Think I seem too unapproachable to my younger targets… not something I need. Shame really cause I’m getting addicted to the A314 self-effects!

Don’t know if the ammo I added did anything at all. Only felt the A314 effects. Maybe I should increase the sprays next time, so I can have the A314 self-effects, and the ammo effects on other people.

It was really hot in the club and I was sweating quite a bit, so don’t know how long the mones lasted. Was there for 3 hours, so probably by the end I had some extra natural phero’s on me :smiley:

Most obvious hit of the night was after the party while we were waiting outside for everyone to grab their bikes. One of my friends’ friends who’s gay told me ‘I just must say this, but it’s really a shame you’re into women’. I’ve had men hitting on me before. Usually it would be bad for my confidence (as I don’t wanna be perceived as potentially gay!), but now I just took it as a compliment. Situation totally under control. Thank you A314 :slight_smile:

Just got some new stuff! Shine was going fast so needed a re-up. Ammo too, decided to go for the summer edition this time. Got a free Mx297 (Independence Day special) and a P91 as a freebie, thanks AD! Thrilled to test them :smiley:

Weekend Mix: various ammo (regular)/IS combinations, going up to 4:4

Tried it for several days last weekend while going out at night. Lots of looks and random IOIs in general, but here are the most obvious hits.

Hit 1: Friday night met Carla (first post) again while going out with some mutual friends. One of the first things she says after we meet up is: ‘Hey I like your perfume’, but in a kinda shy way, as in if she was knowing she was giving away an IOI. It was outside where the mones usually don’t work that well, but I’m guessing the 3:3 mix is strong enough. I responded with ‘Thanks! And yours? sniff Ahh medium..’ combined with a smile and a wink - the teasing vibe was on :slight_smile: Later on at the bar while ordering our first drink, she leaned on me from behind, trying to get a good smell of the Ammo in my neck I guess.

Nothing much happened the rest of the night with Carla. She was definitely giving me subtle IOIs, looks, laughs and stuff, but keeping her distance at the same time. As if she didn’t dare to initiate her interest in me anymore, as her Brazilian friends were there as well. I probably should have found a moment to pull her aside, away from the group… but could’t find out how and didn’t feel like chasing her too much (need to work on my game damn it!). Also, was waaaay to busy with observing other people’s responses to my mones. This stuff is so fascinating :smiley:

(MASSIVE) Hit 2: Was walking around a student club later that night, trying to find a toilet. Randomly this blonde (HB8, tall, early 20s) chick walks straight towards me, throws her arms around my shoulders and says ‘Can I please kiss you?’. Didn’t hesitate a moment and so we made out for a minute or 2.. Really couldn’t believe what was happening, this never happened to me before :open_mouth: Went to take my leak still wondering what just happened. On my way back to my friends I saw the blonde HB8 standing in a group of girls. Probably her sorrority members. Think they were challenging each other to hook up with guys, so that might partially explain the direct hit, but still… she chose me, while there were many other male options surrounding me.

Hit 3: Saturday night. I enter a club in search of friends. Wasn’t that busy inside and I couldn’t see them anywhere, so I went standing against the wall while texting them. While standing there I notice a brunette (HB7, late twenties) giving me the biggest DIHL I have ever seen. She was literally just staring at me for at least 5 seconds, even when she saw I noticed her looking she didn’t look away. I walked passed her towards my spot, so she got big smell from my phero cloud I guess. 2 minutes later while I was still texting there and not paying attention to surroundings, she comes towards me and takes the dogtags I was wearing out of my shirt. Talked a bit more but didn’t do anything.

Hit 4: Sunday night. Went to visit a friend, ended up playing drinking games in the middle of the night. 3 guys, 3 girls. Wasn’t anyone I was interested in, but decided to test the mones anyway, looking for my ammo sweetspot. The vibe was good, everybody was already fairly drunk (we started drinking at 6 PM, and now it was 3 AM). One of the girls was wasn’t feeling like playing anymore and was sitting outside the group, but I tried to engage her anyway. Was teasing her calling her the name of someone she reminded me of. She told me she was gonna bitchslap me if I namecalled her once more (this was right after I upped the dose to 4 sprays of ammo by the way). 5 minutes later, I namecall her again - wasn’t picking up on the fact that her threat was serious - and she comes towards me and bitchslapped me HARD :open_mouth: Everybody was like dafuk? She stormed out of the room and was seriously pissed. Luckily the rest of the people agreed with me that she was totally overreacting, but I felt pretty bad. Guess it was the high amounts of none that made her cranky, the alcohol that made her more willing to use violence, and my final name call that triggered the entire situation. So lesson learned folks: when wearing high amounts of none - take threats seriously!!

A314 test weekend

Friday

Mix:
2 sprays A314/b to jawline and under nose
1 spray IH on forearms
2 sprays IS on hair
2 sprays ammo (chest and neck)

Location: family birthday party, bar later

Self-effects: super confident and relaxed

No girls in my target range (18-25 yrs) present unfortunately, but my main goal this weekend was to test A314 in social settings.

Some guys in my family (older cousins and an uncle) are extreme alpha guys. They are handsome, confident, and constantly joking around and shit-testing everyone. One of my cousins was at the birthday party and gave me lots of respect vibes. He also took an active interest in me and my career, which was very nice. A314 definately made a difference in his attitude towards me.

A niece of mine (30+ yrs) also seemed very happy to see me, but nothing out of the usual.

Also got some of attention of two older ladies (40+)… which was weird. They gave me some looks like they were thinking ‘there is something about this guy but I’m not sure what…’ and ended up guessing my age and asking about me in a very enthousiastic and interested way.

Met up in a bar later that night with my uncle, aunt and a cousin who was getting married the next day. Respect vibes were definately there. There were some low value girls in my target range, but they didn’t seem to respond to my sig. Wasn’t too interested in them either so no biggie, but A314 in bar settings hasn’t given me many hits yet from younger ladies.

Saturday

Mix: same

Location: wedding reception

Was wearing my suit and feeling very awesome. Got a lot of respect hits from all my family members, but also from random strangers. My parents were also staring at me like ‘wow this is our son’ and definitely seemed proud of me. Both my mom and dad are very beta people, my uncles and cousins are much more alpha. Wearing A314 shifted the power balance and made me the most alpha guy in the place. Specific hits:

1 - my uncle, who is the embodiment of an alpha guy all of a sudden wanted to be my best friend. Talking good about me to his buddies, zero shit tests.

2 - my brother’s gf (21 year old HB7) told me I looked like I wear a suit all the time. It seemed to fit me so naturally.. she was definitely liking what she saw. Gave me a lot of looks throughout the evening, which was slightly uncomfortable as my brother was there right beside me.

3 - my niece and the wife of my cousin (both early 30s, alpha girls) were searching for my attention and seeking for my approval. They constantly were dragging me to the dancefloor to dance with me (usually never happens) and wanted to help me hook up some girl I wasn’t even interested in. They really wanted to help me score with the ladies, but unfortunately besides some catering girl who was working, there weren’t many girls I was interested in. All in all it was hilarious to see them submit to me in this way :smiley:

4 - A314 really works well on older people so far for me. While standing outside to get some fresh air I got a massive hit from a cougar who was having a smoke (and then I mean 50+ yrs!). Waaay too interested in me, didn’t break eye-contact, came way to close in my comfort zone… puffing her sigaret in a seductive way (I know my body language)… and that while my alpha uncle was standing right there next to me, stunned. It was really weird and uncomfortable, so I went back inside as fast as I could. Mind you, I’m 25 but I look like I’m 20 tops, so this was definately unusual.

All in all I think I can conclude that A314 doesn’t work for me around younger ladies. All the hits I got were from older women… Although a group of girls in their late 20s gave me some looks of admiration, but nothing sexual there. Wanted to go and talk to them, but it wasn’t the right setting to go on the prowl, so I stayed with my family. A cute 17 year old didn’t even DARE to make eye-contact with me…

Sunday

Same mix, to test for consistent results

Location: small scale family bbq

No hits at all, think I was even ghosted… People didn’t seem comfortable in my presence and went sitting elsewhere everytime I joined a conversation. I found myself sitting alone several times, with just empty chairs around me. None build-up maybe? Or too much -rone induced seriousness? Wasn’t feeling much like talking either.. don’t know if the mones were to blame. Was still recovering from my hangover. Didn’t have a single good conversation, which is really unusual for me.

Mix: ‘The Man’ mix from the Mx297 respitory

Mx297 3 sprays neck area
Ammo 2 sprays neck and chest area (+ some residu from earlier on the day)
IS 3 sprays on hair neck and arms

Location: casual gallery party first, steamy nightclub environment later on

I like this mix! Made me feel laidback and ignited a wish in me to meet some new cool people.

My wing called me to join a group of ~12 fellow students that were chilling in the gallery of our flat. It’s pretty hot where I live right now, so everybody was just sipping wine and killing time till temperatures cooled down. Didn’t know any of the people, except for one girl. Walked through the group because the girl I knew was sitting on the backside - great opportunity to let everyone welcome my phero cloud :smiley:

Immediately two girls are like ‘hey who is this guy’ - combined with interested looks. The AMOG calls out on me and I casually introduce myself saying that I’m here to up the wine supply (I brought a bottle). Very suave.

Two blonde girls (HB7 and HB8, both 21) were liking it, cause as soon as the girl I knew left to dress up for the night, they grabbed the opportunity to come and sit next to me to talk and share some wine. Small talked a bit with the two of them and got lots of IOIs from both of them. Frankly, the obvious attention from two girls at the same time made me feel a bit insecure, so I decided to just lean back a bit and watch the stars… see how things would develop. Damn it I wish I had had the A314 confidence at that moment.

HB8 kept giving my naughty looks, even without me talking to her. HB7 namecalled me a couple of times and was eager to convince me to hit town with the group later on that night. I already planned on doing so - my wing informed me - but was happy seeing her craving to engage me and welcome me in the group so smoothly :slight_smile: Mx297 hit?

Went to change clothes and joined them later in a nice upscale nightclub. Lots of ladies were dressed up and looking yummy. My wing was there too and bought me an (expensive) cocktail. He’s not much of a drinker so I knew I couldn’t just buy him the next round. Offered him his money back but he kindly refused. Mx297 hit?

Found the group just chilling, dancing a bit, but not party hardy. Maybe it was the alcohol that was kicking in, but not much later everybody was dancing with eachother. Mx297 hit? I wasn’t dancing with anyone in particular but just dancing by myself and talking to y wing.

Bit later we were standing in a circle and HB8 was in the center, dancing with her booty towards me. So obvious that I didn’t even dare to dance with her.. Didn’t feel confident enough to be the center of attention. My wing (Brazilian guy, the best natural player I’ve ever seen) jumped in and grabbed the opportunity. Couldn’t blame him. A little later I grew a pair and just pulled her in, danced with her face to face, turned her around and grinded a bit from behind. Although she didn’t struck me as a typical party girl, she was very comfortable with me doing this. Mx297 decreases personal space right?

Mx297 definately helped me obtain social proof in this situation, as all the girls in the group were checking me out. Not necessarily in a horny sexual way, but more in a ‘hey this a fun guy’ way. Helped wing a couple of targets for my friends, so not much more happened.

Felt like I couldve kiss closed the HB8 if I pushed myself a bit more, but didn’t really feel like it for some reason. Wasn’t too goal oriented and eager to score, but keen on just having a good time.

After the club closed some of us went to a smaller scale establishment to finish the night. Bumped into a friend who I’m not attracted to at all. She really begged me to dance with her. Usually I kindly digress when other targets are around, but played the nice guy and danced with her for a bit.

Also saw a girl (HB7, blonde) I only met once before. Didn’t even remember her name, but she remembered me all too well. Talked and danced for a bit. Next day she added me on FB and wants to hang out again. Score.

All in all a very nice mix! Have to test more obviously, but when I up my game a bit I can definately see myself scoring some chicks with this. Mix really helped with making a good first impression. Have to act alpha and just go for it to actually close something I think. But hey, that’s always the case isn’t it? :slight_smile:

Mix: Mx297 solo testing, 2 sprays

Location: cinema, my place

Hung out with one of my best friends. He’s gay and we get along fine without mones, so hard to analyze if any hits were mones related. We bonded greatly, had nice deep conversations. He also bought me drinks - usually he is a cheap ass (my culture encourages being cheap :wink:). Complimented me on my new attire multiple times, and told me I had great taste (first time he did this, usually my clothing isnt really his style). Next morning after a great night of bromance (no homo) he complimented me again on my shirt and told I looked totally fuckable. I know he was just encouraging me to hook up with this Indian chick I was going to see later on the day, but usually he isn’t so blunt :smiley:

This post is called: massive A314 fallout.

Initial Mix
Mx297 3 sprays neck area
Ammo 2 sprays neck and chest area
IS 3 sprays on hair neck and arms
IH 2 sprays forearms

Location: walking along the canals of a picturesque European city + serveral indoor bars

Same mix as the ‘The Man’ mix, but I added some IH to increase the deepness of conversations. Was going to hang out with an old Indian summer fling the entire afternoon, so I didn’t want the conversations to get boring.

In short: dangerous mix to wear around a girl who already has had a thing for you in the past.

I met her in the summer of 2011 on exchange in the US, and we had sex. Later on turned out I took her viginity that night (wasn’t aware of that till a year ago or something, when she told me). Now she’s studying in the country where I live, and has a boyfriend. Didn’t plan on things to happen, just wanted to have a nice day.

Self-effects were the same as before, but you can really notice the IH effects. This stuff is extremely powerful I’ve come to learn. Together with A314 the most powerful mones I’ve tried so far.

When we met in the train she immediately started to apologize for not meeting up earlier this year (we tried to hang out, but she always had some excuse). She also complimented me on my style within the first 5 minutes (not like her usually).

I was feeling very relaxed, didn’t have any problem with keeping the conversation up to speed. Jokes came up without me having to actively try to be the funny guy. She was liking the vibe but nothing special up to that point. She also told me a couple of times I was ‘weird’ - don’t really know how to interpret that. Guess she was just trying to figure my sig out. Guess I wasn’t like she remembered me, but I was acting congruent.

After a while we went inside to get some lunch. Conversation went deeper and deeper and she started to give me more IOIs. All of a sudden she’s steering the conversation towards my romantic life. I tell her I’m just fooling around and having some fun. She starts about her boy problems (apparently it’s not going too well with the bf). I sternly tell her I’m not interested in that and change the subject. To get more a grip of things I decide to apply 1 spray of A314/b before we leave. This is when things got really interesting. My intention was to create some distance, but the opposite happened.

As usual when using A314 my confidence and swagger increased significantly. I was playing the tourguide and directed her through town, telling nice stories about stuff I knew. All in all not too intresting I’d say, but the delivery was excellent :wink:

While walking she told me I seemed so self-aware, and also very much in touch with the surrounding area. She couldn’t really describe it properly, but she said she liked how I was carrying myself. A314 fallout was kicking in MASSIVELY.

While drinking beers we bonded more. Were talking about art, cultural differences and how they make life interesting, and finding the perfect partner in life (without going into her bf issues). I told her finding a 100% match in personality, interests, body etc. probably isn’t possible, and that the closest I got was probably 70-80%. She started to talk about ‘combining several aspects of different people to create the perfect boyfriend’. I kept my distance and was just acting confident and cocky funny. IH really was affecting her, she was very much trusting me.

We were having such a great time by the time that we totally forgot to have dinner. Alcohol was kicking in, but everything was still under control. At the dinner the flirting became very obvious, she was serving herself on a platter to me basically. She liked it very much everytime I gave her a smooth and cocky look. Also the bossy A314 vibes kicked in.. she didn’t object to anything I was saying or doing and was completely following my lead.

Later on in a jazz bar she kept displaying so much interst and kept bringing up the 70% I’ve felt earlier in my life in a teasing way. It was very obvious that she tought that we had a bigger connection. Pulled her in and went for the kiss. She happily answered it.

Re-upped the A314 in the bathroom and by now I was in total control of her. Never felt so much in control of girl before in my life. She was like a pet, waiting for me to tell her what to do :smiley:

Hugging, passionate kissing, hairpulling… She was getting horny but established some boundaries by saying I wasnt getting laid tonight, because ‘it was her time of the month’. Mind you I didn’t even mention sex, but it was obviously on her mind.

Planned to buy some weed and go to my room and get stoned together (her suggestion). While walking around the city we mustve looked like some couple that just fell in love. People were giving us smiles everywhere and she was drooling all over me.

After buying the stuff we took the wrong night-train back, totally wrong direction. She seemed very disappointed, but I kept up the positive vibe by just making an adventure off it. The midnight train going anywhere you now :wink:

Eventually ended up in my town at sunrise. She was doubting and starting to think about going back to her hometown. I told her she was still welcome to crash, but she had to make that decision. She really begged me to make the decision for her - basically she was just waiting for me to invite her and saying that I really wanted her to join. Was kind of indifferent as I was tired, so I sternly told her it was her decision to make. As a rule I don’t take home girls that have bf’s, unless they want to themselves.

She couldn’t decide, so I did the alpha thing and left het at the station. 3 minutes later she calls if she PLEAAAAAAASE can crash. I tell her it’s still cool, so take her home with me.

Meanwhile she’s starting the act insecure - as if she’s thinking ‘what am I doing, I have a bf!’. I’m just the happy laidback alpha guy. ‘This feels weird’ she says… ‘Nope, it doesn’t to me’ :smiley: After we kissed she was constantly shit testing me to figure out how I really felt about her, but I was just playing it cool.

At my place I’m tired and exhausted and frankly only want to sleep. I ask her where she wants to sleep. She again is indecisive so I pull her into the bed. Third base, some hugging and kissing and then we fall asleep.

Next morning I get up first, take a shower, and while she’s freshing herself up I put on some A314 and TUTH. Try to get the playful vibe on but there was still some insecurity in her. I go and check my e-mail and display disinterest to kill LMR. When she tried to get my attention back, I just came to the point and f-closed. A314 gave me the confidence, TUTH showed her I was all fired up and meant business.

Lessons learned:

  • never just let a girl ship you off with the ‘it’s my time of the month’ excuse when she has a bf :smiley:
  • Indian girls respond well to a dominant A314 vibe

Been playing with the ‘instant boyfriend mix’ from the MX297 respitory lately. I really like it.

Mix:
2 sprays Mx297 neck area
2 sprays regular Ammo neck area
2-3 sprays IH to forearms

Wore it at a garden party, a housewarming party, casual drinks in town with friends couple times

Still trying to get a grip on the Mx297 self-effects. It definately mildly boosts my confidence, but nothing near A314 effects. Alpha makes me totally inafraid of almost anything really, kills any sort of anxiety. Mx297 is more laidback and socially confident - ready to interact - mood. Effects are more in the background. Ammo doesn’t give me any long lasting lasting self-effects, but always makes me feel a bit intense after I spray it on. Puts me in a hook-up or ‘let’s DO this!’-mode. Combine them and you surely feel ready to go out :slight_smile:

As I’ve been testing mostly among friends and acquintances, I really noticed this mix works incredibly well with bonding, also with people you haven’t seen in a while or don’t even know that well. People really trust you and open up.

The mx297 gives you the social status, people wanna be around you and you’re easily the center of attention if you want to and act congruent (also, it is not intimidating at all like A314, people acknowledge your status but tend to feel very comfortable when you get closer). The ammo gives you a kick in sex-appeal and intrigues the ladies. The IH part is not to be underestimated, as it facilitates conversation excellently.

Hit 1: friend of mine that I unfortunately don’t see that much (different college) really opened up about some issues he’s having with his gf, while we were sitting outside having beers. He’s a very positive minded guy, and usually we just bond the way guys do: talking shit, checking out ladies and drinking beer. But now he opened up instantly at the first beer of the eve. Another friend hadn’t even arrived yet, and he was already very eager to tell me it’s probably not gonna work out in the near future with his 4 year gf. Usually he doesn’t talk about his gf or his emotions at all.

Hit 2: The gf of a friend of mine told me she did some illegitimate things to finish her thesis (her mom wrote parts of it). Mind you usually she very much is about keeping up appearances and acting all cool and in control. She didn’t have any reason nor incentive to tell me this, but it just came out. Definately IH hit there.

Hit 3: at the houseparty the mix’s diffusion was even better. I easily became the center of the party after I arrived. Two girls that I don’t really know that well were trying to engage me in conversation while I was sitting on the complete other side of the room. They were literally yelling my name and asking for approval about some band (I’m famous for having an awesome taste in music among my friends :wink: ).

Hit 4: gf of one of my best friends told me she was worrying about her and my friend, about how to communicate better. She really got personal and was asking for my advice. She was trusting me very much even though she know’s if anything goes wrong I’m totally on my buddy’s side. Told her she could alway talk to me and she seemed very happy we could talk this way (usually just friendly chit chat). Lots of smiles and kino too.

Hit 5: DIHL look from cute girl in a red summer dress at the bar (HB8, blonde, early twenties). She insisted on ordering for me even though it wasn’t busy at all. Tried to impress me with her Spanish language skills and to engage me in conversation even as I left with the beers. Wasn’t on the prowl that night but definately will go for it when I see her again next time.

Hit 6: weird respect hits from some younger guys I talked with a few times before at the bar, but don’t really know. I was talking to some friends but they rudely interrupted by jumping inbetween us, just to get my attention. Was no point really..

In general btw guys gave me lots of respect. People that knew me by face but didn’t really know me started to introduce themselves, handshaking me and asking for my name (they didn’t do this with any of my friends). My buddies I hang out with seemed to always steer their conversations in my direction, and trying to engage and impress me with their drinking stories. No hard respect like A314, but more social respect - they acknowledge me as some awesome dude and generally want my attention and want me to approve of their banter. Really like these effects :slight_smile:

Also noticed respect hits from guys, with them telling good stuff about me to other people or just in public. Heard numerous times how awesome I am, how good a connection I have with them, how good my taste in music is, how laidback I look, and even compliments on my style (from guys that are not gay, nor into fashion at all).

From girls I didn’t get too obvious sexual hits expect for the one DIHL (then again: mostly hung out with friends and some gf’s of my buddies, wasn’t out hunting), but they seemed very comfortable being close to me and talking to me. Wanting my attention in a similar way the guys wanted it. Felt like they perceived me as a confident and desirable man, not like they immediately got turned on or something (the way 3 shots of ammo/IS in night-time environment works for me). Can definately see why this mix is called ‘instant boyfriend’ :slight_smile:

Again also felt Mx297 decreased personal space, girls were not intimidated at all. The confident ones even initiated kino without me doing anything :slight_smile:

Last specific hit: don’t know if phero-related, but the gf of a friend of mine (HB9, confident, happy with her bf), told me she could clearly see my gentleman’s equipment while I was wearing shorts. Friend of mine (beta) said he noticed as well, and started about how big my penis is. Personally I think there wasn’t anything to see, but it was hilarious to hear what was on their mind :smiley:

EDIT: ah yes, tried adding a shot of A314 too near the end of the the night at the houseparty, to see if I could replicate the effects I had with Indian chick. Results: respect from the dudes increased even more. Betas were a bit intimidated. Girls didn’t come too close anymore and seemed overwhelmed by my pressence (girl literally moved a seat away from me, 2 min after I sprayed it on). Self-effects: I got cocky. Conclusion: save the A314 for the Indian chicks :wink:

Reminder to self: order more IH and Mx297

Mix:
1 drop A314 (rev32) to jawline

Later added : 2 sprays Ammo SE to chest

Been testing A314 oil version last couple of days without any other mones added. I like the calming self-effects, they put me in ‘serious-mode’ and make sure I’m spending my time effectively. Almost like wearing a high status product like A314 makes you get your shit together, and stimulates you in making serious long-term plans for your future.

As I’m quite introspective and serious by nature (I’m an INTJ), the drawback is that it can be offputting when around younger people. Especially in casual/social situations. Was wearing 1 drop the entire day and added some SE Ammo while attending a student meeting. I asked some questions to some people giving a presentation and later my friend commented that my voice sounded very serious while asking them… almost as if I was bossing the people in charge around or being confrontational (hadn’t worn A314 around him before). I didn’t mean to be too serious at all.. but apparently I came across like that. Next time I have to pay attetention to my body language more… I feel I’m being perceived as too serious when I don’t smile enough or display an open attitude (something I try to do all the time). Or maybe I should just add some IS next time.

What I did feel while entering the meeting room, was that my presence was immediately noted by everyone. There were quite a few (mostly blonde) girls that gave me some looks. Sat down waiting for the presentation to start, and two blondies (HB8,5 and HB7) immediately struck up a conversation as soon as I put my phone away. They were also very fast with the hairplay.

Not sure if I like the combination, it needs more testing for longer exposure on targets, more open body language, and maybe a whiff of IS.

While wearing A314 oil (1-2 drops) solo around my parents I noticed an improvement in conversation quality. Really liked this effect. They treated me as equal rather than me still being their kid (mind you I’m a 25 yr old college graduate). No testing, no commanding me to clean up stuff… all just normal adult conversations. Nice :slight_smile:

Cool, well I hope to hear more about your Summer Ammo (compared to regular) runs, cause I was deciding if I should refill on regular ammo again or go for Summer this time, same target range.

I enjoyed reading the whole thread! Keep up the good writing! I like that you spent the most time on describing the night when you f-closed (morning, but you get me).

Seems like im not the only one that uses IS the most, My next order will contain two bottles at least.

Thanks for the encouragements guys! Helps me to stay motivated to write some of my adventures down here :slight_smile:

@XyzN: lately been testing SE as a solo during daytime at 2-3 sprays. I really like the self-effects and they seem to be a bit different than those of the regular version. When wearing SE I always immediately feel laidback and cool - like an instant mood lifter. Probably the TAA is the source here, but I don’t the effects are quite different from a regular Ammo + IS combo (makes me feel energetic and ready to go out). Not sure what the P130 does in the mix, but I’ve been reading it has anxiety killing properties, which I can see in retrospect. Wasn’t worried about anything while wearing the stuff. All-in-all the SE feels more friendly than the regular version, therefore I’d wear it during daytime and safe the more heavy in-your-face regular ammo for going out at night.

@djelica: yeah I went through 1 entire bottle of IS since the beginning of June. Probably because it’s easy to add to almost any mix, and still gives me a crazy energetic rush. Been taking it slow on IS lately - especially during night-time activities - as I find I can crash hard when I’m already a bit tired. Also won’t wear it anymore while drinking coffee. Mind starts racing and it becomes really impossible to concentrate.