You cannot resist the Dark Side...

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Yes, the Dark Side is much too powerful to be resisted!

This will be an record of my experiences with the products I purchased. The following is edited and pasted from my intro thread for readers reference:

I am first and foremost interested in driving women as crazy as I sometimes get over them. Let’s just say I had many an unrequited love burn for considerable amounts of time during my introverted adolescent years, and now I want to be able to turn the tables. Even now, at my age, there is someone who is driving me insane, and I wish to return the favor back to her! I want my victims to be driven as insane with desire as I have been…

I can’t exactly explain just who in the heck I really am… I’m not the same person I was a year ago, 4 years ago, or when I was a teen. I am more extroverted, because I’m generally more comfortable with who I am as I age and find that a lot of the BS we all deal with as formative adolescents isn’t important anymore. I still feel mentally 14, despite my maturity and responsibility, basically what engaged my brain then is more or less what engages it now!
For some people I relate rather clinically, and others I give my impish side. It depends on the situation. In DISC terminology, I’m Cd, but beginning to establish some “I” qualities as well lately (or perhaps latently?)

My focus I think is quite different from the others I have perused here. People are generally looking for phero hits in situations of meeting new people. I must first get a girl to relinquish her attachment to her already strong relationship to someone else. This is a woman at work who has got nearly most of the men tripping over themselves to be around her. She is very down to earth, and you wouldn’t be able to tell that she knows this, except that I interact with her extensively and pay very close attention; I know she knows it, and I know she revels in men going out of their way to spend time around her. I suppose I have unfortunately fallen into the same trap, but I am determined to turn the tables !
We’ve had a lot of fun and laughs at work. I’ll make her laugh so hard she cries! And when we are teasing each other there are HUGE IOI’s as I guess you sweet folks call them: touching of arms, legs touching, playful hitting, languorous looks out of the corners of our eyes, etc. She has gone WAYYY out of her way to do things for me that can only be taken as what women do for men when they are usually “an item”. I just can’t tell if she’s doing this to get my attention because I don’t stand around and drool like an idiot like the rest of them; I make her earn it. I can’t tell whom is seducing whom, for whom’s ego boost! Maybe she’ just winding me up to behave like the rest of them?
I recently teased her about her looks in a prank that seems to have really wounded her ego. I then insinuated in that prank that I know she’s always thinking about me. Wow! Did she then keep me at arms-length! So I wrote her and pointed out to her that I know her power over men, and that I must have damaged her ego by insinuating her power from her beauty wasn’t all that great, and insinuated that I know the usual dynamic that works in her favor was upside down because I’ve got her thinking about me. Now You could practically cut the tension with a knife. She is talking to me, she doesn’t act upset (she is too easy going and classy to show it anyway) but hasn’t said one thing about my thesis concerning her. Work is dull as hell now. I am determined to seduce her, and I aiming to add pheros to get back to that fun place and bring her to the dark side.:smiley: I am researching which one as a beginner, to use first for my special situation…

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I see where you’re coming from. Honestly, if you really want that kind of..magnetism, you might need to invest some more time and energy into other things than just pheromones. To command that kind of attention requires an exceptional human being.

Also, it requires a shift in mentality. You can no longer view her as the unobtainable woman, or the irresistible woman. She is just another woman. Nothing less, nothing more. But you, you must be so much more. Not act like so much more - BE so much more.

Anyways, good luck, pheromones will probably take you down the path you’re looking for if you keep your eyes open. :smiley:

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Precisely. The title of the thread infers a dramatic change, and brother I am making it! I am adapting every stratagem and tool available. It’s attitude, performance, language, pheros, etc!

My first step on this journey, has been reading The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. I read voraciously, and this is by far one of the most profound books I have ever come across. Over 200 reviews on Amazon with a 5 star rating, should tell you something. If you’ve been a dolt to human interaction like I used to be (still am, but now my mind has opened and I’m growing and changing), you owe it to yourself to GET THIS BOOK!

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Received delivery of the following on Wed, March 26:
One oz of A314;
To Go Sprays of:
Ammo, Instant Shine, Instant Female Magic, Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, Turn Up The Heat.

Before work, applied two drops of A314 to wrists, and spread behind ear along jawline.

There were perhaps subtle differences from others in my vicinity, but it was too subtle to tell.

I decided to reach into my growing repertoire and treat my main target (whom from now on will be designated as MT for Main Target) with coldness today to see what would happen.
While giving her her first break, I didn’t acknowledge her existence, I wouldn’t even look at her; I just sat there with my body language conveying contempt. I could tell she was looking at me, and was taken aback that I was ignoring her. After precisely 10 minutes for her break, I directly left the area. Usually I then take my break there just to chat with her. I know she’s an attention whore, though in an incredibly subtle way. This time I wanted her to feel that the bond we had formed was utterly destroyed, and that she was going to have to do something to get my playful attention back.
At lunch I arrived again to give her a break, and acted in the exact same manner. As she was eating in the next room, it was fortuitous that there was a fan turned on on the desk. I inwardly grinned my Evil Smile as I made sure to sit right next to it to give the A314 a chance to fill up the space. When she returned her whole demeanor was different. She came into the room and sat on a desk and faced me, as people sit on desks when they want to talk frankly and openly ( I have learned, and am learning, to watch body language very closely; it’s more power I am gaining from the Dark Side of becoming a seducer, as you will see shortly). I was specifically not acknowledging her presence, when she just flat out asked me in a soft but wounded tone,

“Are you in a mood, or are you mad at me?”

If you could have heard my mind, you would have heard the classic sound of the needle skipping off the record! I tried acting coolly indifferent previously, but that time she continued to shut me out. This time she was opening up and no longer keeping me at arm’s length. I paused before I answered to ponder whether it was my actions, the A314, or a combination of both; too difficult to KNOW for sure. I mulled over my potential responses, looking around the room in consternation to convey to her that I had much to consider before doing so, to both give me time to devise a really well placed dramatic time bomb that would continue the conversation in the manner I wanted to steer it, and to make her squirm. I finally asked her,

“How do you expect me to act after keeping me at arm’s-length for a week and a half? I try, and try, and try to lighten the mood around here to have some fun, but you just keep me out now, so what do you expect?”

During the ensuing conversation, she tells me she was acting that way lately because “it was getting too close.” I queried her on this, asking her to explain. Her body language spoke volumes! She physically got smaller and smaller trying to dance around what she meant by that. Eventually she remarked that she was afraid to say because she may not say it right, she might explain it wrong. (??? What the hell exactly does this mean??? It can seem as though whomever relents first and admits their feelings of attraction loses. I suppose because we humans don’t want to open up our vulnerable egos, to be left wounded if the other person is only toying with us. And also because our egos are stoked immensely when someone else we’ve been after admits their weakness to our charms.) I suggested she give it a try, that I would work hard to understand. All she would say was that if she explained it to me, she was afraid it could go bad and someone could be hurt. I can infer what she meant, so it remains unsaid. It feels good to make progress and see the effect I am having on my target.
The entire conversation was very revealing and frankly way more than I expected to occur with so little prodding. WAS it the A314? It sure did not hurt.

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After getting home from the first night’s test, I thought it funny and indicative of what may have been the self effects of A314; that as I was surfing the internet, I downloaded the Imperial March music from Star Wars (you know, Vader’s theme song), and listened to it for HOURS! Normally I may listen to something maybe five times in a row, but I was getting high from what that music implied for me at the time. I then added the Vader avatar in response.

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Second Night’s test;
4 drops A314 spread between back of ears/neck/jawline and wrists before work. Also used some of my favorite, usual cologne, Stetson. My main squeeze comments during nuzzling my neck, “that’s not your usual cologne smell, but you smell GOOD!” Acting as though she was puzzled as to why, cocking her head slightly during the comment.

At work nothing out of the ordinary except one male coworker, whom I will call Wookie because I have actually called him that to his face just to piss the tall SOB off (we have a history of disliking each other) wasn’t his usual rankling self around me and was less abrasive. Hell, the guy almost treated me like a human. A314?
MT was very loose and open around me. She Let me in on some general scuttlebutt she was specifically ordered by management not to reveal. Then she Let me in on some private scuttlebutt in regards to being sought out by management to apply for a supervisory position, going so far as to say they may consider bending a lot of formalities so she can work the only shift she is available, as opposed to graveyard. Then informed me some management of our client asked her if she considered working directly for them. I teased her about everything going her way. Her ability to get men to treat her special without trying is testament to her seductive qualities. Why is she revealing so much to me all of a sudden? Is she attracted to me, and the prior night’s conversation opened that door even more? Is the higher dose of A314 giving a stronger sense of trust and comfort? Is she just attempting to indulge her need for male attention by seducing me? One of my central questions in regards to her: whom is seducing whom? And for what purpose? I’m confidant that my resistance to behaving like so many other males around her is what has at least initially piqued her interest. I can tell you though, it sure is NOT easy to keep from going back to old habits and fawning like the rest of them!
I intimated again tonight that I know her power, and that I know she knows I know. She seemed to enjoy that. Later near the end of the day, I told her with a devilish grin on my face and a sly twinkle in my eye, “Someone has got to stop you from getting your way all the time, and it’s gonna have to be me.” WOW - I threw my gauntlet down and she accepted my challenge; she gave me that devil’s grin right back! The game is afoot!!!

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Spend some time with A314. Pack the other stuff up and put it away for a while. If you are like me you’ll get tired of A314 a little and you’ll have all those others to play with. Then, when you come back to A314, it’ll be like putting on that great old pair of jeans that fit you just right. The stuff is just too awesome.

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Nice, glad to know you’re up for the challenge. Plenty of people here who can help you if you ever stumble. Keep going, sounds like A314 is really working out for you.

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I want to add that during the second day of testing, MT stepped outside for a cancer stick break. I decided to see what effect, if any, some Turn Up The Heat applied to my hair would have. She returned about 5 minutes after I applied 2 sprays. She asked “What’s that smell? It smells like cologne in here.” I deflected by commenting that the only thing I could smell was the stench of cigarette smoke. As we then engaged in our usual ritual of card playing during lunch, I reflected on something the “MAD” Tater has reported on: that when women are ovulating, they are more susceptible to the effects of Androstenone, which I believe is in Turn Up The Heat. Since we were joking about chocolate, I joked that maybe I should bring in boxes of chocolates every day, then count how many disappear as a gauge of when she’s on her period, so I could keep a safe distance from her. Inwardly I knew that this would be my gauge for when she’s ovulating and I could hit her with high levels of TUTH or AMMO and see what develops. She responded that she doesn’t have periods. I asked her with a look of discombobulation,
“You don’t have periods? Did you have a hysterectomy?” (she’s 31, menopause is unlikely)
MT laughs and responds, “No.”
I figured again, then smiled and said, “Lets see, if you’re on the pill, you… have periods… and if you’re not on the pill… you… have periods that are more unpredictable and heavy… and you don’t have a hysterectomy… so you have to have periods. What the hell?”
She responded with a glint in her eye, “I have a… uhh” trying to recall the term. Without missing a beat, I said, “penis?”
Holy cow did that cause us some laughter! She feigned anger and declared “NO!”
“I have an IUD.” Smiles all around.
Here we are, talking playfully and casually about very personal, sexual matters, not something we’d done before. I couldn’t help but wonder if the TUTH was having a hand in that!
I asked in mock shock, “You have an IED? What, a coupla morter shells rigged together?”
She started laughing so hard she was crying! (hear diabolical evil laugh in my mind here… while I think “my prey is becoming so vulnerable now!”)
After her fit of laughing/crying she responds, “That’s some chastity belt, huh?”
With no ability to keep a straight face whatsoever, I say, “Yeah, no kidding, you’ve got an ovary packed with explosives, ready to go off at the first sign of a penis. That will definitely keep guys away.”
We both couldn’t stop laughing! I had to do my damnedest to keep my fun, evil laugh suppressed!

Again, I can’t help but wonder how much of an effect the addition of TUTH to the A314 had on this conversation.

We continue to fall into each other’s trap…

Additionally, I went to the grocery store after work. As I walked in, I felt very powerful. A man was walking out of the store with a case of beer in hand, and I looked him straight in the eye and give him a big smile. Inwardly I thought, “What the hell, that’s usually just for women!”, and he seemed a little puzzled by my look until the last second before we passed each other, when my smile became contagious and jumped right onto his face. Then I did the same to the guy carpet cleaning the entrance. Again, a look of suspicion, then a slight smile. Inside the store, I was looking at some items when a group of two guys and a girl strolled near. They were swiveling their heads around the produce area looking for something, when the gal stopped a few feet from me while her friends kept walking. She never looked in my direction, but she continued to swivel her head around in search of something. Can’t help but wonder what made her stop right there, before continuing on with her friends. Testing these products on oneself makes it difficult to distinguish casual behavior like that. I’m looking for clues that these products work, so if something occurs that I wouldn’t ordinarily pay attention to, but fits the pattern I’m looking for, I’m left to wonder. If all I have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, as the saying goes.

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Third night testing:

Before work I applied 6 drops A314, which were distributed to wrists, jawline, throat, and my temples, figuring that being a really good spot, being a hot pulse point.

Self effects were pretty good. I felt very present, and more leader like, like a really engaging Tony Robbins type.

MT acted quite respectful, but friendly. She sat a few feet from me, engaging in some banal talk with me, but she was sitting facing the same direction I was, so there was no eye contact. During a lull of a few moments, she asked, “Do you want to play a game?” (our usual ritual of UNO) The question seemed a little too… well not so casual. It seemed, well, like if you imagined asking maybe say Teddy Roosevelt or John Adams to play a game of cards. Very respectful.
We had a good time all around, engaging in our usual banter and hi-jinks. The real revelation came later in the evening when another coworker started his shift, in a different location. He and I spend a great deal of time discussing women, and he knows I ordered products from Androtics. Since he had been off the past few days, he asked me when I caught up with him if I had been using them. I told him some of my experiences. He responded that the A314 seemed to be affecting my own attitude, because he noticed I was more confident and “in charge”. We theorized probably a case of multiple feedback loops: The A314 makes me feel confidant, I therefore exude that confidence; other people pick up on what I exude, as well as the A314, reinforcing the concept that “that guy is in charge” to each of us, ad infinitum. I am not saying that the feeling is pervasive, but it is a subtle shift. I am normally a happy-go-lucky guy anyways, usually upbeat, but the self effects of the pheromones (or just what I perceive to be the effects) tune that just enough to effect a subtle difference. I still have my normal human self doubts, but they don’t seem to nag me as hard. I can set them aside somewhat and focus on my target, be that MT or any other woman or man. Seduction isn’t just about sex, it’s about orchestrating feelings in others that cause them to do what you want, which is why I am a student of the art :smiley:. Therefore a new mantra that came into my mind unbidden the other day, “Every day is an opportunity to seduce.” Meaning every interaction is an opening to seduce others. Maybe it’s as simple as bringing a smile to a casual strangers face.

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Keep it up. One thing I’ve noticed is that you mentioned that you’re looking for clues that the products work.

“fits the pattern I’m looking for” Sometimes hits won’t fit the pattern you’re looking for, but is a hit nonetheless. Also, just because we think a certain pheromone has one distinguished use (-none, or A-1) it’s always possible with more experience that it can be used in previously unforeseen situations contrary to what you might expect.

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Today, Monday March 31:
6 drops of A314, dispersed between throat, temples, wrists.
Very surprising behavior from attractive Asian/South Pacific Islander.
She’s brand spanking new at the credit union at my site, I didn’t even know she was working there. I stopped by to see what effects, if any, my pheromones would have on the other gals who work there. I walked in and immediately started with a big hello in general. Right off she starts opening up. She was behind the counter, probably 5 to 6 feet from me. I would not have thought my pheros would have had time to travel that far. Since she responded positively, I started chatting with her, teasing her, etc. 15 seconds into talking to her, out of the blue she asks me if I want any Skittles. I said, “If you’re offering, I’m accepting,” with my usual wry smile. She digs them out of her desk and pours them into my hand, also offering me candy bars if I want them. I decline. As I step away to eat my Skittles while waiting for closing, she asks “Do you want to work out?” I think “what the hell?” and turned to her to repeat her question back to her. Turns out she was talking to her coworkers, but she asked loud enough for me to definitely hear. She then tells me her goal is to lose 35 lbs (not that I could tell she needed to!) and that her screen saver has that listed as a reminder, with the added phrase “that means you Shamu,” and she needed to go work up a sweat. I thought, “Wow, that’s a lot of info for just meeting someone.” I commented to her “It’s good to work up a sweat, isn’t it?” hoping the small innuendo wasn’t lost on her.
A very interesting interaction!

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April 1
3 drops A314 dispersed on wrists, temples, and neck before work.
Added 6 spritzes of my new cover scent, Givenchy “Paris”, to hair, wrists, and throat (which is so good smelling I would nearly hump myself!).

At the end of the day, a supervisor (female) for another contractor on site sought me out to apologize for being slightly terse 4 hours earlier. I didn’t even consider it rude or offensive at the time, but was surprised when she found me to make the apology. It’s a sign that the A314 is perhaps elevating people’s perception of my status, as well as in this case, indicating this attractive woman is open to be a potential target…
We shall See!

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Thursday April 3:
3 drops of A314 spread between temples, wrists. 4 sprays Givenchy pie (think the geometric symbol, the bloody robo editor thinks I’m referring to Primal Instinct when I mean the other p.i).
Had a HUGE hit on another woman of Asian background. I went to a music store to look at some instruments, and pick up a harmonica. The saleswoman who greeted me was in her late 30’s to early 40’s, and appeared to be of Japanese / Caucasian makeup, though clearly very American, probably born and raised here. She was super friendly and enthusiastic while showing me some banjos and demonstrating all the harmonicas. Very lively. Asked me what I was doing on Friday night. I told her I work evenings. She was somewhat disappointed as she said the store was having an acoustic guitar performance Friday night. Then she quickly tried to interest me in a violin/fiddle fest there next weekend. She was very thrilled to be helping me out, and even asked me my name with her hand extended in formal greeting at the end of the transaction, then invited me to continue browsing the store. I thanked her by name, but I told her that I needed to complete other errands elsewhere.
This had to be an overwhelming “hit” because I’ve never had a salesperson or any other stranger that dang happy to have me around!

Anybody else here notice similar reactions from Asian women to A314 like the two I’ve had so far? So far, women of other backgrounds don’t go gung-ho quite like this! Makes me wanna prowl some spots with a high concentration of young Asian gals to see if there’s something to this!

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Looks like that you got some great results with A314 and primal :slight_smile:

And ur going to the dark side a little more everyday :smiley:

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On April 5:
I did not apply any pheros, however I did not shower since my application of
A314 (3 drops) and Givenchy the previous day. I was at the supermarket, which was very busy. I passed about 15 feet behind an Asian woman in a self check out line with a very nice figure, but couldn’t see her face. She was attended by her Caucasian husband, and son of about 8 to 10 years age. In my mind I thought “Hmmm - attractive, I wonder what her face looks like?”
After picking up my item, I passed by her again at about the same distance, towards a different checkout line. This time, however, she was turned in my direction, and I was able to see her very pretty face. She looked about 40. And for my reward I got a serious case of googoo eye lock for several seconds as I passed her, with her husband and son standing right next to her facing the other way! I don’t try to target any particular ethnic class, but it seems that there is definitely something vibe-ing with the Asian women when I’m under the influence of the A314!
I wonder that since we are usually putting out our natural, individual pheromone signature, plus our natural “vibe”, then when we add to that artificially, if the unique combination creates something in itself that cannot come out of the bottle. Such that most A314 users experiences are similar at a base level, but by random chance with our own natural makeup only a few can affect Asian women with similar results. Would each person’s unique presence with the same pheros affect different categories of people differently?

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I’ve been reading about this p83. I will need to keep it in mind for sometime down the road!