hello guys, im a nub to this site and can use some help. when i first heard aout pheromones…i was astonished, but the probelm is i dont know which ones work. Im a high school student, 17, and i want to try these out not only for female attraction but also for other purposes. I have no problem with attraction i just want something not alot of people have 
. i want to know which products do what and i will test some of them out. I’ve been hearing about many fakes like phelure and chikara and the products that u can OD easily on such as NPA. I need all the help i can get guys thanks!
being 17, you already have plenty of androstenone. i would try using instant openness or scent of eros for a good conversation starter if youre shy, but this might get you in trouble in class since teachers dont appreciate talking. instant female magic will get the girls feeling all happy around you. also, you may want to give instant gentleman a try, since it’s kinda like alpha a314 without the strong alpha male aura. chikara is a pretty legit product, a lot of people get great results with it. pherlure, im sure the majority of people on here would it’s a scam and ive used it myself with minimal to no results.
thanks bro and how about ammo, i heard its good
Ammo is one of the flagship products here. It is very good. It is 'none based but it is buffered so it is not straight 'none like TUTH. But because it is 'none based and you are young and producing plenty right now you would need to be a little careful with it. Plus a lot of young girls get scared away by a heavy none signature..
As already mentioned Instant Gentleman would probably be a good choice for you. Read the thread in my signature block that compares the two. Gentleman will give you a cool smooth vibe that can make you seem older than you are. That should help also.
Also read the thread in my signature block for married guys. Now I know you are not married but several of the main ideas work for everyone. In this case look at how imprtant the social products like IO, Instant Honesty (to create feelings of connection) and IShine - to keep people feeling happy - are to women. Remember - girls like guys who can make them laugh and feel happy.
Then try reading Perronec’s journal - in the men’s journal area. Go to the last couple pages. He just “got” a girlfriend. Like a lot of young guys he was trying to “push” the issue with 'none or 'none based products. But when he switched to Gentleman and the social products - then he won her over.
As far as other products go. Most people are not too happy with Pherlure. I will leave it at that. Chiakara is a bonfide product by a reputable company but it can be hit or miss for success. NPA is very good, but very strong.
Hey Muji I’m also 17 high school student.I can tell the products I’ve use and loved so far i only had money for IS and cttm2 but i also got a Ih and IO gift. these are all social pheros and i loved them.I looking forward to using IG or ammo
Effect IS u’ll feel the self effect soon what i liked to do with it was actually spray it on face.LOl i liked felling the full effect head on =P but if u want other to feel i recommend on expose skin area for me in school i have a room to put my coat and sweater so im in short sleeve i liked spraying it on the inside of my elbow area i kind od but then again if it not -none product i dont think you can od with it =P unless u unscrew the viel and dump it all over yourself.
Effect on other i saw people were happy to be around me also i life the fact i wasn’t look as the depressing kid anymore .. + self esteem and confidence
Cttm2
Effect i saw while using it i felt more chatty. people seem to want to talk to me also i been approached more than i ever had in my life
negative effect my mother is the type that never STFU so when i started using it after a few time she seem to talk more pulls trigger not good for me but i don’t see how it effect u
IO the ice breaker omg this is very noticeable effect of ppl what i like to call the add convo it seem like a lot of small talk which is nice if want to approach someone an don’t know what to say.also i seem to notice people trying to start conversation with me
IH loved this one it bring the conversation to a much deeper level great product honestly u can feel and notice the difference btw this one and IO. which is what i thought they were the same at first.but there not.
Ive also used ammo which a friend of my school bought Loved it if u read my journal.it on eth top of my wishlist.it like an added sex appeal confidence when i used read my journal for the details!!!
i honestly felt attractive while using it
Hey perrai. Compared to some of the other self effects described by old people in this forum would you say that the ones you felt were more pronounced than theirs? Im asking cause i have shine 2x that i just got that doesnt do a thing to me, neither does A314 (hopeuflly uve tried that), gentlemen, cttm2, IH and IO. The ammo that i first bought works great, and the togo of shine go me feeling AMazing. It was like i couldnt stop smiling and i laughed for no reason, and i found my self holding doors for people and such. And now i tried 6 sprays of shine 2x and i didnt feel a thing. OR notice a thing from anyone. Ive tried cttm2, gentlemen, a314 and shine and im thinking maybe the batch i got was a dud or somehting? i wonder if im going off topic? lol
'Cib, don’t worry about this too much. You didn’t get a dud. The same thing happens to most guys I think. It did me. Sometimes you get a little vicious cycle started where you start upping the amount you wear so that you can feel it and then you don’t feel a thing so you start mixing in other stuff. That leads to a muddy sig and you start getting negatives.
Just back away a little. Remember that self effects fade pretty quickly for the most part and get back to using the amounts that worked. From here on you’ll need to depend a lot more on what you observe than what you feel. It’s tough sometimes, I’ve been in a little “phero slump” for a couple of months now but I know from past experience that it will pass and that using less, not more, is the way to get thru it. 
Sorry if this is a hijack.:o
like she said self effect tend to fade quickly it kinda depends on you i like spray IS on my face from time to time sometime i feel it sometime i dont feel it as much mostly depending on my mood i sugest ive have reg strength i use about 5 sprays maybe 6 while going out maybe u arent using enough well then again i havent been using pheros for long. Maybe the self effect go away after ur body adjust to themcrosses fingers and hopes not
When I first started using IS, I felt it immediatly, got a warm feeling in my face and head. after using it for so long I dont get that warm feeling anymore.
Still get the loose and free feeling, which is always nice. still one of my top favorite products. along with cttm2 and ammo.
Welcome aboard Muji
Yepp, I also don’t get much of the self effects of IS anymore… 
But strangely I found that spraying IG on my neck always delivers a big smile on my face - just like IS should! 
I dont get that and i only got it from the shine togo that i recieved (that was my first order) and after that i ordered 2x and i dont feel a thing. How can i have gotten used 2 it if ive only tried it twice?
IG was part of my 2nd order and i dont get anything from that either! wwttf
Maybe it’s not self effects you’ve gotten used to but the “neurotransmitter rush” for lack of a better term. A number of folks report no self effects at all but will feel the excitement of their nervous systems adapting to “something new”. Just guessing, hope it helps.
The effects wore of for me really fast. only last the first 3 times I put on IS, kinda sad, like that feeling. Different people probobly feel different effects over time.
hey zyron do you smoke?
hmmm…so does ammo and IS sound like a good combo for shool?
nope, never have. cant stand cigs or anythign tobacco related or smoke related for that matter. except incense, which moldavite is my favorite, not naag champa which most people rave about, oops went on a tangent there. lol