Does it really work like Dial magnetic? does it even work at all?
First time I"ve heard of it…will check it out tho’.
Dial Magnetic Red… I just love the smell. I don’t know if it had any effect at all, probably very little. It has A1 in it, but not much and the method of delivery we’ve discussed here often probably meant most got washed down the drain. Either way, personally, the smell just gave me the confidence of knowing I was clean..fresh and smellin’ oh so good. So that was always a plus.
haha yeah, thanks for the comment appreciate it.
I use DIAL MAGNETIC RED as well. It was buy one get one free at publix, so I stocked up. Not sure if it works either, but like you said, it smells great, and gives me confidence. I have never heard of seen of ZEST ATOMIC. Has anyone here tried it?
As a guy, one thing you might want to think about when it comes to any personal care product is Xenoestrogens.
Xeno-what?
Yeah, exactly. Xenoestrogens are chemicals that imitate estrogens when introduced into your body. In other words, if you’re a guy, then you’ll want to stay the hell away from them. And unfortunately, A SH$T LOAD of shampoos, conditioners, shower gels, hair goop, and deodorants contain these chemicals. Some of the more notorious examples are Sodium Laurel Sulfate and Laurel Sodium Sulfate, and Parabens. Now, I don’t know about the dial product, but since it’s a regular mainstream bath product, I’d be willing to bet that it’s has more than it’s fair share of these chemicals.
If you’re over 30, consider switching to an organic or natural line of personal care products that don’t contain these things – you’ll be glad you did.
Reports have stated the pheromone content is weak. Whether or not there’s actually any viable content is almost negated by the fact that whatever pheromones are in there are being washed away. If it works, it’s more on placebo effect of knowing that pheromones are suppose to be in there. 
And there are very solid, documented reasons why you should avoid these products.
You’re dead nuts on Copywriter! And speaking of nuts… you guys better watch out for yours! 
The chemicals Copywriter is referring to are… Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS ) and Sodium Laureth Sulfate (SLES). 
While were on the subject there are also alot of other ingredients/chemicals to be concerned about such as… formaldehyde containing preservatives (imidazolidinyl urea), possible cancer causing wetting agents (cocamide DEA), and nitrosamine forming agents (triethanolamine). Another is triclosan the main chemical used in anti-bacterial products.
That’s a very good question! Yeah, let’s throw all those chemicals into a lifetime of hand/body/hair/dish/clothes/car washing, tooth brushing, deodorant application, housecleaning… 
I don’t care how good these products work/smell. As they are proven to be absorbed into the body, in the interest of clean healthy living, I make it a point to avoid all products that contain these toxins/cancer causing ingredients. This is no joke, they’re in everything and you must read the labels!
Check it out and please stop using them! 
http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/sodium-lauryl-sulfate.html
http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/sls-health-implications.html
Bella
Thanks, Bella. Love the Dorothy Parker quote, too : )
If you’re really interested in avoiding this stuff, I might also suggest installing a shower head chlorine filter to get rid of chlorine and chloramines.
My personal take on this is that it is roughly impossible to avoid all this stuff, but avoiding, say 70-85% of it is pretty easy to do without driving yourself crazy and well worth the effort.
Another thing to watch out for are receipts and a lot of canned food. Receipts, surprisingly enough, contain an ungodly amount of BPA that can get rubbed off on your skin. The lining of many canned foods also leaches BPA into the food. Same thing with plastic containers that you microwave, or really any plastic container that doesn’t specifically state that it is BPA free.
Whoa..Thanks for all these warnings guys. I had no clue about this. I have a bad habit of resusing plastic containers from powerade/gatorade bottles to fill them up with water and resusing them(over and over), and I’ve heard thats bad, but I had no idea about receipts. You mean receipts you get when you buy something right?
Now if a bodywash or soap contained Xenoestrogens, will it be listed on the integreident in the labels?
Yes, regular old receipts – the heat activated printing has a crap load of BPA that can be absorbed by the skin. Either just say “No thanks” to the receipt or ask them to put it in the bag for you.
you can read a little about it here:
BPA in Store Receipts | Environmental Working Group
As for listing “xenoestrogens” on the label, you’ll have no such luck. They’ll list the individual chemical by name, but would never willingly list it as a class of xenoestrogen. The chemicals to watch out for are the ones bella listed plus Parabens. Frankly, you can drive yourself a bit nutty trying to avoid all of them simply because they are so over-prevalent in everything from factory-raised meat, to dryer sheets, to most shampoos, to canned food, etc.
So the important thing is to start avoiding what you can and gradually “dial in” or “screen out” more and more as you grow more accustomed and knowledgeable about avoiding these things. At any rate, here is a partial list of Xenoestrogens:
- 4-Methylbenzylidene camphor (4-MBC) (sunscreen lotions)
- butylated hydroxyanisole / BHA (food preservative)
- atrazine (weedkiller)
- bisphenol A (monomer for polycarbonate plastic and epoxy resin; antioxidant in plasticizers)
- dieldrin (insecticide)
- DDT (insecticide)
- endosulfan (insecticide)
- erythrosine / FD&C Red No. 3
- heptachlor (insecticide)
- lindane / hexachlorocyclohexane (insecticide)
- methoxychlor (insecticide)
- nonylphenol and derivatives (industrial surfactants; emulsifiers for emulsion polymerization; laboratory detergents; pesticides)
- polychlorinated biphenyls / PCBs (in electrical oils, lubricants, adhesives, paints)
- parabens (lotions)
- phenosulfothiazine (a red dye)
- phthalates (plasticizers)
o DEHP (plasticizer for PVC)
Finally, you might also want to try to avoid Soy Protein and non-fermented soy products, as Soy is a phytoestrogen, which as you may be guessing by now, is a plant-derived mimic of estrogen in the body.
One last thing – the reason it’s so important to screen out xenoestrogens from the stuff you put on your skin has to do with your body’s own abilities to handle xeno and phytoestrogens. If you eat or drink this stuff, your liver has a decent chance of screening the vast majority of it (like 90%) out of your body before it can disrupt your endocrine system too badly. But if you absorb it from your skin, your liver never gets that chance, so whatever gets absorbed is like a 10X dose of the shit
This isn’t just conspiracy theory stuff, either. Men’s average testosterone levels have been systematically dropping compared to, say, the 50s or 60s. And most scientists believe that it’s because of our constant exposure to these endocrine disruptors.
PLus, your body will naturally lower testosterone output once you get past 30. So exposing yourself to this as an older male can really screw up your hormones. A whole lot of men have been able to do massive turnarounds on their life and physiques by focusing on a hormonal reboot, if you will, to naturally up testosterone levels while eliminating their exposure to xenoestrogens.
If you don’t think this is a big deal, just realize that the global testosterone replacement industry is set to top $5 Billion in a few years!!! To the point where you may have even seen TV commercials asking “Is it Low T?” And this from a condition/medical industry that was basically unheard of a decade ago.
I’ll step off my soap box now
Thanks for getting on that box of soaps. I already am a hand sanitizing freak, so now I have plenty of other things to O.C.D about!
Seriously though…thanks for the heads up. Who knew I could learn so much on pheromones message board!
Hey i’m glad i found this thread. when i first joined a few years ago, everybody was all like, “Androtics Direct only”. So i stop posting on year and havent read up on any forums. Upon doing some research in the other phero communiuties, i decided to give androtic direct another look. Anyways to answer your question, if you have’t used it by now, i am telling you that the stuff works. Ive been using both dial magnetic, and zest high intensity for years and out of the two i do believe zest is the more potent one. however i have noticed that they both work better when you cycle them. i might use dial for a month, then switch to zest for two. i currently have been off of zest for roughly 3 months, as i have been using other phero products as of late.. i am however still using dial off and on.
Wow really good thread. I already got rid of most junk chemical crap. There is no way getting rid of it all but I am happy to get rid of the 80% or whatever I can.
The toothpaste I switched back to sensodyne because the lack of fluoride was giving my teeth problems.
Anyone trying to go to natural alternative products I must warn is a trial and error thing. One natural dish soap might be total crap and another OK. My wife and I went threw like 5 different types until we found one that worked.
Does anyone has shower gel brands to suggest that does not contain the xenoestrogen thing??
I’m a big fan of shower soap made of almond oil and vetiver. The latter essential oil really seems good for the skin (mine anyway.) I stay away from soaps that aren’t soap - solid detergents - “surfactants.”
Xenoestrogens are bad but so are phytoestrogens - no TOFU for me, thanks!