I speak on behalf of no one Lor lol love ya to death but, Address your questions to them, and I will not comment.
I am the only tester commenting, no one else has it in hand.
I am only trying to get the point across for everyone reading this, that this is not a thread to discuss the make up of the formula.
it was for when the mix gets sent out for testers to review it in one place.
Placing questions on a forum asking people who do not know… it really is a moot point.
Sorry Jay I have my info incorrect up there it was not mco who tried it, it was Derf link here: Derf's sociochemical mistakes/ramble/discoveries - #17 by derf
Talking about a variation of a older version of one of my mixes that I am still working on, I will be ejecting the dienone and trying to find a middle ground between A314 and IG.