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P86

Ah, I’m pretty dumb.

I took my p86 out for a spin, today. I’ve been eager to try it since it’s been sitting on my drawer for some time now, but couldn’t really get around to it what with the exams, blind testing, etc. I went on a nice little phero break and tried to get a lot of vitamin C, B and etc in.
Back to why I’m dumb. I forgot the dosage of my p86 bottle was 10 mcg, rather than 5 mcg. So instead of going with one spray, I sprayed myself twice on the chest. Then once on the wrists, out of Instant-y habit. Gosh…

First thing I noticed was that riding in the car felt like Space Mountain. My eyes would go out of focus, like it would with blind bottle 9, but it would stay that way.

I am also beginning to believe that p86 may not be the best thing for me. Self effects wise, it was pretty horrible. I’m usually very very fatigued throughout the day naturally. Maybe with a 15 minute snooze, I’ll crawl through the rest of the day successfully without tripping over myself.

But with 3 whopping sprays of a putative I wasn’t even use to, I diiied. Seriously, I could not do ANYTHING. My boyfriend came over to hang out for the day, and I couldn’t stay awake. I fell asleep for 30 minutes inside his car, went to go eat, came back and fell asleep on a bench watching him play basketball ( I’d usually join in but I couldn’t muster the strength to ) We took the dogs out on a nice long walk to the park, came back and flopped on the couch to watch the tube. Fell asleep during. He wonders what I want for dinner, I say ‘take out’ so I can eat while laying down. It was… ridonkulous. When he eventually dragged me out instead, I spent most of the dinner flopped against him in the booth…

These fun effects lasted ALL day. I felt like an aging trailer, who’s only saving grace was that it could be dragged around and slept in. The boyfriend was not amused. The funny thing is that I didn’t even suspect p86 during all this – it wasn’t until I popped back in the forums that I remembered I had today’s post to report.

My boyfriend may have noticed something different about me. Heck, I MAY have had “hits” during all of these places. Unfortunately I was half unconscious for too much of it to really decipher.

This must be what they spray insomniacs. I think I’ll stick to one spray this time around. I don’t blame p86 at all for this, rather my stupid stupid phero use.

Sprays - I guess 30mcg in total of p86 madness. Two on chest, 1 shared between wrists.

Environment - Basketball court, park, living room, restaurant

Targets - Me
Duration of Effects - All Day

Took TAA for a tiny spin today with some friends today! I layered on 10mcg for starters and see what would happen.

For one, I think that I was perhaps looking too hard to see some sort of hit. I usually get like this when trying out most of the products for the first time, and it usually takes a while for me to notice something truly extra-ordinaree.

However, that wont stop me from reporting what tiny things I DID notice - better food service, and people focusing more on me. If I could make any kind of comparison, I would think of mx135. It puts the spotlight on you, and you feel compelled to actually “work it”.

Other things I notice - more eye contact, slightly optimistic attitudes, and perhap abit more touchy ?

I’ll up the dosage the next time I take this baby out, maybe sometime after I can finish the blind testing ( I know I know, I’m STILL doing it )

Sprays - 10 mcg TAA Chocolatini
On Neck and wrist
Environment - Breakfast spot
Targets - Myself and a group of three girls, similar age
Distance - Close contact, 1 and a half feet at most
Effects lasted - 2 hours

You do seem to get used to the P86 after a while. 10-20 mcg should start netting you effects, and I actually find 30mcg to be a good dose. It did seem to burn me out after a while initially, but like I said, eventually you get used to it. If you’re already tired to begin with, watch out. But if you are geared up and excited, it shouldn’t knock you back too much.

Glad to see you’re back around.

You are an excellent tester. Keep at it.

marty is exactly right on with the P86. You nailed it the first time. Keep the dosage low, and see what happens. about 25 mcgs is normal for most, but I am weird and need higher doses. :frowning: I had to self adjust to the sleepiness. You can adapt - I have foudn high card and high protein meals when under P86 drowsiness wakes me right up.

You nailed the TAA! :slight_smile:

Oh, and I am coming to Philly in two weeks. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the info, guys ! To be honest, I feel incredibly turned off to p86 at the moment – my first time out of with it was rather miserable, and given my constant sleepiness, I feel as though I’m slathering on the fatigue ( even if it’s a small dosage like 10mcg ) Especially since I don’t really know what p86 is suppose to do. Even when hyper, I feel discouraged from spraying any p86 on because I don’t wanna ruin what small energy burst I might be having at the moment. But alas, I have to get over myself.

Do you guys have any suggestions as to what I could wear to help with the drowsiness and instead focus on what it’s ACTUALLY doing ?

Funny you say that, I tend to get EXTRA drowsy when dining in steak houses :stuck_out_tongue: Nevertheless, I’ll give it a try

And :open_mouth: woo, about Philly ! Is this a business trip or leisure ? And whereabouts ?


I know I haven’t been on very much, although I’ve been doing quite alot of small little tests. I’m just trying to sort my financial situation out with school right now and I’ve already plunged head first into my spring quarter. I promise that its not a lack of interest as it is just being crazy crazy busy. I’d love to catch up with ALOT of journals and threads but I’ve yet to find the proper time to, also. Now with Easter coming up, Ive got a bazillion things to bake and Im just currently starting an intern so !!! I feel oh so neglectful when I can finally stop by for a look-see.

Regardless, I’ve been playing with the Instant series again because I know full well my mind cant truely distinguish normal effects from the sometimes-subtle effects from the TAA, p86, and the blind bottles. It’s been pretty fun though and it almost feels like reading a book over, catching alot of things you didnt really see the first time.

I tried a cops/IS/IO mix just a few days ago! I wore it to an all female classroom for a few reasons - I’ve seen that many of my chickiefriends react negatively to cops ( they tend to be more sarcastic, and alittle less …outwardly friendly) so I thought adding it to such a seemingly approachable mix like IO and IS would be interesting, especially amongst girls I didnt even know

The reaction was good - Id be lying if I said girls were swarming around me, however, I did get many friendly smiles ( much more than Im used to ). While some girls did seem to DEFINATELY keep thier distance, the ones that I did chose to approach ( for whatever odd reason ) would immediately brighten up and talk enthusiastically.

Another cool thing to note, is that my teacher (male) was relaxed and talkative to me. Usually, he carries a very professional demeanor and tenses up when asked a open ended question not related to classwork.

Overall, Id like to try this mix again, perhaps amping up the cops this time ( you know, to see how far I can push before I make a social outcast of myself) and trying to add mx274 to it. Ideas ?

Mix -
6 drops of the new craptastic EOW shared between wrists and neck
2 sprays Instant Shine on neck / 1 spray Instant Shine in wrists
1 spray of Instant Openness x2

Effects Lasted - The duration of my four hour class.
Targets - Female students in class
Distances - Anywhere between 2 feet to 10 feet
Environment - Kitchen classroom

Ahh !! It’s been forever since I’ve been able to stop back in here ! Hello dusty ol’ journal ! I’m so sorry I’ve been neglecting you!

Just wanted to pop back in and make sure the 1-2 people that still vaguely remember my existence can know I’m still alive. I plan to drop off a report later tonight, because I have TIME! Luscious and beautiful time ! I’ve got two weeks worth of reports down in my notebook and will attempt catch up when I finish making dinner and feeding myself slash get bored of writing my paper and decide to procrastinate.

Foreshadowing ! I heart TAA ~

Looking forward to it!

So glad to see you’ve returned! Welcome back :slight_smile:

My computer has been on the fritz this past week, but during this momentary lull I seem to be getting, I’ll quickly interject one of my entries so I can at least put a dent into catching up !

First off, I’m somewhat glad Ive taken a short break from buying new pheromones. To be honest, having so many sprays I was unfamiliar with made it rather hard for me focus on which phero/molecule I wanted to try for each week. I realize I have a tendency to just grab any new phero and test it for one day, then tomorrow do a complete 360 on another spray, which made it difficult to kind of get the overall feel for each individual one.

Apologies in advance for the boring report - lack of sleep makes me…sleepy. ( that was my attempt at a joke just now )

First off, I gave TAA a try. Day one went by without a noticable hit of anything really. Quick info:
Spray - TAA 10mcg chocolatini / Sprayed on front neck
Out to dinner, with a couple friends (mainly female) around dinner table
Warm 70’s
Effects: Completely normal, comfortable behavior. Not much in change of personal attitude, demeanor, hits, etc.

I was somewhat disappointed by the lackluster results, but tried it again some with higher dose, some kept the same. What I eventually found out about TAA personally, is that my hits seem to correlated to the environment I was in, rather than the dose itself. For instance:

Day 3
Spray was kept the same today, at 10mcg. Front neck. Difference was that it was my first time eating out with a couple co workers. I was not too familair with them, and I usually exhibit abit of nervousness when talking. All other variables were constant, but the only change was the people who I was with. Almost strangers.

Effects: I found myself strangely relaxed around them. A lack of self reflection that usually seems to make me antsy. However, there was something …err, ‘shiny’ about this? Relaxed yet energetic and happy, instead of relaxed and mellow/sleepy. I was not afraid to say what was on my mind. This was far from being verbal diarrhea, but it was almost as though I was a.) relaxed enough to say what was on my mind and b.) happy to do it.

Seems like a world of difference to me, but even then I was unsure of wether or not I had gotten lucky with hits or etc. etc. blah blah. Annd because, Im still unsure what TAA does. But future testing seems to support this conclusion about being with strangers versus friends.
Future testing which I will post in abit !

Cookie,
i wish i can pinpoint something Diane said about TAA being impersonal.

i mean, its a good feeling pheromone (it makes me dizzy at first,lol) but then you are able to distance yourself while drawing people inward.

kind of makes sense,
if you see that you were able to be relaxed instead of being so darn close to the situation.

great post,
although now i am mad at me for not getting Dianes quote accurate :roll_eyes:

Page 13, my journal. :smiley: :wink:

Glad you are back, Cookie. How’s it going???

thanks Tigerlily!!!
heh heh

:confused: :confused:

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if i am fixated on trying to remember something, it usually follows that the answer comes when you GIVE UP trying to figure it out.
it bugged me that i couldnt remember where Diane mentioned the TAA thing, simply because i wanted to take her quote and use it.
that was my silly disco way of saying thank you for keeping me from pulling my hair out.
no more :confused:,lol

LOL :smiley:
gotcha

I am also beginning to believe that p86 may not be the best thing for me. Self effects wise, it was pretty horrible. I’m usually very very fatigued throughout the day naturally. Maybe with a 15 minute snooze, I’ll crawl through the rest of the day successfully without tripping over myself.

I am sorry that you are usually so fatiged :frowning: that sucks

My finals are almost over !!
That reminds me, before I go posting another TAA report,
I’ve been having horrible luck with p86. Is this something I should be spraying away from myself ? Perhaps my wrists, elbows ?

This was a putative I had been wanting to try for quite some time - but it getting hard to use because of the , what I call, ’ fuzzy numbing’ effect that p86 seems to have on my brain.

I spray about 10-20 mcg (chocolatini) on my neck/chest when I’m about to go out. To be honest with you, it makes me feel more ‘soft’ and ‘kittenish’ than IS/b does. Which is great, really. But.
With it, I become immediately somber and sleepy. My lids feel heavy, albeit in a very sexy way. (This observation is surprising to me because I never took myself as someone who can ascertain the differences between my heavy lids with pheros and heavy lids without )

20 mcg and over will almost immediately knock me out.
10 mcg will actually give me that pleasant numbing effect for about two hours max before it slowly sucks my soul away.
I havent tried 5mcg because I bought it in 10mcg - very stupid move on my part since I know how low energy I normally am.

I should ALSO mention my vision too. Im trying to describe this in way people might understand however, I should warn you that I go to an art school (despite being culinary).
Faces and objects seem ‘rounder’, and colors take on more pleasant tones. The only similarity I can mention to help bridge the gap between my stupidity and your comprehension is thus: Neon green appears more muted OR pastel-ey. Ta daa.
This is with 20mcg.

I really wanna make this work, but perhaps I’ll have to start making a combo 10mcg p86/2 cups coffee/extra cream and sugar.

On another masochistic note, I also wanna see if mixing TAF and p86 will give me HDTV vision.

i wish i could single out ONLY my P86 posts from my journal.

in a nutshell,though, this is what i found:

almost the same thing as you…except…
after weeks of using it, the fatigue wore off.
nolonger had that effect.

never got visual enhancement :frowning:

i tell anyone who is interested though,
that if it makes YOU tired at 20mu,
its going to make others tired at 20mu even if you have already acclimated !

i use it at exactly 20mu .
im not sleepy, and my company doesnt yawn.
yawning was the big flag for me.

anything more,
and i feel i am drugging my company :smiley::roll_eyes:

i will be waiting for this report :slight_smile:
my guess?
TAF wears peeps out.
im thinking a huge nap is in your future after a suspense/thriller :stuck_out_tongue:

Another bit of a personal entry - I know I know I have a ton of reports to type up but this is still a home away from home, pheromone related or not -
( also its like almost 2 am here )

Been having a pretty sore month - Trying to finish up yet another quarter at school, and single handedly taking on a 40+ cake dessert buffet outside of it, doing really terrible health wise, and what distresses me the most - my relationship on the rocks.

He’s been really busy with school - which I completely understand but I can feel us distancing a great deal. Its to be expected but it does disgruntle me when he chooses the scarce time to actually spend with me ( like once a week ) to focus on his projects and homeworks, while on his own free time he is laying around at home, watching ESPN for like, 3 hours.

But this is a really minor problem to me, and can be easily talked about, solved, etc.

Anyway - marriage has been on our minds lately. In the length of our relationship, I’ve become attracted to maybe 2-3 other people (all of which coincided with times where we have distanced) I find myself pushing him away and encouraging him to start other relationships, almost so he can see for himself that he is sure he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me.

I also say it because I feel really insecure - This relationship, almost hitting 5 years now, is his first serious relationship past 3 weeks…ever. So I think, well surely I don’t want this to happen when we’re already married ( because I have a niave wish that if he gets all the curiosity out of his system now, it wont come across later when Ive invested everything to ‘us’…Yup. )

Then I think, well why do I think he’s going to ‘cheat’ on me to begin with ?
Well because almost every relationship Ive been in has ended in being betrayed in exactly that way ( so I have trust issues ! great ) AND I’ve been able to become wildly attracted to someone else while still in THIS relationship. This must mean that he can be too ! How terrifying.

But, I’ll think, he’s never given any indication of wanting to in these past five years ! In fact, he says he’s never looked at another girl ! And then trust issues will say : Oh, he’s obviously lying.

And on and on it goes - in the end, I know what Im doing. Blaming him for my lack of trust and insecurity when he hasnt done a damn thing wrong.

Yet I know he is vaguely curious ( and also afraid of losing me ) to see what its like to be serious about another woman, and I want nothing more than for him to get that goddamn curiosity satiated before we take any serious steps.

I wonder how unhealthy it is for this relationship to push him like this.

Im such an obvious disaster - Im so afraid of getting hurt that I cant distinguish past from present. :angry: Why cant these insecurities go awaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy…

Gasp. Oh yay ! Acclimation! I never knew that ( or maybe I forgot ) but now that I do, I’ll definitely wear it alittle more regularly. I was really sporadic with it before, partially becuase Im still somewhat scared of it.
You think spraying it on while I’m sleeping will get me there faster ? I feel like I’ll be tricking my brain ~

As far as visual enhancement goes, I felt alittle more like degradation :stuck_out_tongue: