A Phero Newbie and his first weeks

Hi !

This is my first post here and I would like to share my Phero experience with you and I also would be happy to hear your thoughts and comments.

My name is Mike, I’m from Berlin, Germany and 30 years old. 3 weeks ago I received my first order, which contained Ammo, Instant Openness and Instant Shine.

A little bit about myself:
I love my work, so I spend a lot of time there (some people call me a workaholic). I have never had a serious relationship and the last time I kissed a girl was 9 years ago.
You can imagine that I got pretty frustrated about this and during my time at the university (6 years ago) I sat alone at home, eating potato chips and drinking beer. During this time I gained a lot of weight and got really really fat. (I’m a 6 foot 4 guy and my weight was then 330 pounds.)

Then 5 years ago a doctor told me: “Stop eating and drinking or you will have your first heart attack when you are 35.” This was my wake-up call, so I changed a lot in my life. I did a diet, stopped drinking completely (even today I’m still not drinking even a drop of alcohol) and during the next 12 months I lost more than 100 pounds. Luckily I was able to stay at this new weight and I think of myself as an average-looking guy, who is only slightly overweight, because he doesn’t do any sports. (Maybe I should also mention, that a lot of people tend to think that I’m younger. When asked about my age, their guess is mostly between 25 and 27.)

I’m successful at work and a lot of my co-workers like and respect me for what I’m doing. But I’m somewhat shy when it comes to relationships (especially with women).
During my childhood I got teased a lot (being the typical nerd with glasses and having only straight A’s), which is probably the cause that I am not very self-confident. I tend to be shy around new people and I need a lot of time before I can open up to them. (Which probably makes me look arrogant somentimes.)
But I do go out and I have a bunch of good friends, who always stayed with me and supported me. I also have some female friends, who (unfortunately :slight_smile: ) see me as someone they can talk to about their problems and their relationships. So I think I’m a good listener and someone they can trust.
My main problem seems to be, that all the girls I meet, see me as a friend, but not as a possible boyfriend. Maybe because I’m too shy to make my feelings towards them clear.

Wow, long introduction. Thanks for staying with me :slight_smile:

Back to the Pheros:
First experience:
It was one of the first sunny days this year, so I went for a walk in the inner city. Lots of people there. I used 1 spray of Instant Openness and 1 spray of Ammo on my neck and 1 spray of Instant Openness on my wrists.
I took a ride in a crowded train, stood in line for an icecream cone ( a small one; still watching my weight :slight_smile: ), went into a shop and talked to some people there, sat down in an outdoor bar for a soda.
I did not get any different reactions at all. People looked at me for the same amount of time than they normally do. I did not have any “Wow” moment, where I thought: “I didn’t expect this reaction.”
So my guess was, that I did not use enough.

Second experience:
One of my female friends invited me to join her, her boyfriend and some other friends at a bar.
I expected that at least one other girl would be there. My friend is a heavy smoker (I also smoke.), so I knew, that we would meet in a bar where a lot of people would be smoking.
So I decided to wear 3 sprays of Instant Openness and 2 sprays of Ammo.
I almost instantly felt a rush. I felt excited, agitated even.

When I arrived, I saw 3 guys and her at the table. We had a nice conversation, although I noticed that the guy next to me was kind of aggressive. (I did not meet him before, so I didn’t know whether this was a reaction to the Ammo.) He also did not look at me very often.
I suspected an OD, so at the end of the night I hugged my female friend good-bye and asked her opinion: “I’m wearing a new fragrance tonight. Do you like it? Did I put on too much?” She looked at me and began to sniff my neck. (Her boyfriend was not looking fortunately :slight_smile: ) She said: “Wow, smells very good. But I can’t smell it, unless I am very, very near.” By that time her nose was practically touching my neck.
So I’m asking myself: Did the guy react to the Ammo ? Then why couldn’t she smell anything ? Does the Phero travel further than the fragrance ?

Third experience:
I’m singing in a small choir group. 6 men and about 18 girls. (The girls are about 18 to 20. Very giggly, sometimes even childish. They tend to stay amongst themselves (= they are not talking to the boys) and I’m not looking for a gf there, but I thought I could test the reactions.)
I decided to switch to Instant Shine. I wore 2 sprays of Instant Shine and 1 spray of Ammo. I applied it one hour earlier to let it dry down.
I love “Instant Shine” ! It makes me feel good, upbeat and confident. I had a very good time during the practice. The boys and me were joking and laughing like we have never done before. I was very surprised about me, since I normally do not tend to chat so much during the practice. Even the girls around us were joining in.

Fourth experience:
Last night I went to a birthday party of one of the male choir members. All of the choir members were there and the other people were also around 18 to 22.
I was wearing 3 sprays of Instant Shine and 2 sprays of Ammo.
It was a nice party and I had a lot of fun. Since I’m not drinking any alcohol, I soon was the only sober person in the room. All the others (especially the boys) were drinking heavily. As you know, it is not easy to have fun in a crowd of drunk people, unless you are drunk yourself. One guy even asked me: “You are not drinking. But I am. Are you looking down on me ?” I honestly said “No. It is my personal decision. But I have absolutely no problem with other people drinking.”
I got no reaction from any girls worth mentioning. We danced a bit, but they acted kind of distant/respectful (I’m not sure) and didn’t make a lot of eye contact. Maybe because I was older, maybe because I was sober, maybe because they did not know me that much.
When I was ready to leave the party, one of the choir girls approached me and told me: “It is really cool that you joined us tonight!” (During the party she hardly spoke two words to me, but now she almost seemed to want to hug me goodbye, but did not have the guts to do it.)
I enjoyed the party very much, but I am unsure how to interpret the reactions. Especially whether they are Phero-related or not :slight_smile:

I will not draw any conclusions now, because I am very interested in your opinions / thoughts.

Thanks, Mike

Yes. Most of the time I cannot even smell the pheromones but they definitely have an impact. To smell them, I must be very close to where I’ve put them.

It sounds to me like you are experiencing results, and you are even starting to become aware of them. Products like Ammo are very much a “shotgun” approach, they work very well for many people in a specific setting but there are lots of other possible combinations. My favorite pheromone lately has been androsterone (Instant Gentleman and other products). It makes you feel a bit like an uncle, very approachable and competent without comming off like a dick or boss.

Too much androstenone will make you feel like a dick/jerk, horn-dog sex beast or a nervous guy and will turn people off. European women are much more sensitive to androstenone than other races or groups, too, so it’s easier to OD (the only worse group are Asians). Men generally will tolerate it in low doses, but will be wary in moderate doses and maybe even hostile at high doses. That look you got from the guy might have been wariness from androstenone (it’s advisable to shower, too, before going to bed when you wear anything like Ammo with androstenone- it will build up, though Ammo is fairly low in it. Turn Up the Heat and other products are more obvious examples).

Instant shine is also excellent if you want to increase your “intensity” and give yourself a youthful, fun feeling. Sometimes I find it a little over the top, but it’s good for making a first impression on somebody.

lol The smell does go away after about 10 mins I just hope other people can’t smell me. I don’t mind a bit of fragrance but smelling like a french whore is not good lol.

hey im 30 and from Germany too :smiley: Welcome Mike.
Maybe you just start a journal here. It helped me keeping track of the doses and applycation points and it helps others too.

First. Much does NOT help Much!

From Noob to Noob :smiley:…

  1. Try every product you have at least for 1 week. Do not combinate or mix
  2. Start wich low doses. 1 Spray the first 3-4 days. Then 2.
  3. Plan your Pheromones for the day.
  4. Learn how people react to you while wearing pheromons
  5. Start a journal and keep track of what you do

Hi Deltaman, nice of you to come and tell us more about yourself. Firstly, I want to say, you are already farther along with your pheromone use than some others who come to this forum. Whether this was intentional or not, I think you did a very good job of instinctively balancing Ammo and social product. You only increased Ammo sprays if you increased sprays of the social product accordingly, and you kept it around 1-2 sprays of Ammo which can be more beneficial than spraying more.

It sounds like Instant Shine is very good for your personality/vibe. Not only to you seem to enjoy it, you seem to be able to let that vibe flow from you.

I would suggest trying Instant Shine alone for a week. Start with 1 spray, then work your way up to around 4 sprays. I think you’ll have a pretty good week. After that, try one week of Instant Openness starting with 1 up to 4. Then try Ammo again, alone, starting with 1 up to 3.

I suggest this progression for the following reasons. Instant Shine seems to work very well for you. I think it would be more fun for you to use a product that will most likely get you fun hits so you can enjoy it. You seemed to have a more difficult time with Instant Openness. Spending a week with it alone will make you much more familiar with Instant Openness and be able to pick up on its vibe. When you try Ammo, you will be familiar with the the buffers in Ammo and thus, be able to understand how androstenone (unique ingredient to Ammo out of Instant Shine, Instant Openness and Ammo) changes the equation.

I think what everyone has told you so far is very important.

The guy may well have been reacting to the 'none. Not necesarily uncommon.

The girls may have been also. You said they were young - a certain amount of standoffishness in the face of 'none is not uncommon with young women who are just figuring themselves out - especially in the romance/sexual realm. They instinctively understand what the 'none means and may feel themselves reacting to it - but they are not necessarily comfortable with the 'none message or their own reactions - so they are interested but cautious.

I highly recommend reading the following:

They should help you a lot and will confirm a lot of what you have been told here already.