How many people notice others following them around when they wear this mone? Also how many people notice others not just following but hovering in their cloud and returning to it?
I am trying to figure out if its just my own coincidence or this is a tried and true effect of the mone???
It’s its an effect it means it gets women in your immediate circle and you don’t have to chase them around. If its a coincidence I guess I must be reading into things…
Let’s assume this is a true phero. It’s seems to fit an evolutionary hypothesis. It has a biological mating purpose. It has no androstenone odor. It could be an odorless NONE precursor. It could be related to NONE but is not converted to any odor phero by bacteria. Let’s assume that high-status males Are that way in part because they have certain gene alleles that make them that way. They produce P75 and chemicals like it. The programming of all men and women is wired to sense this signal. However, lower-status men avoid it while higher-status men investigate the curious signal given off by a potential competitor in their territory. Women investigate the signal of an Alpha male in their midst.
I accept this notion because it fits existing theory. The biological activity of P75 at ranges of 2.5 to 10 mcg (all of which I’ve tested) shows leaves no doubt to me of its quasi-pheromonal activity. It may be a chemical already identified in literature, but I would have no way of knowing what that is, and my mass spectrometer is in the garage right now for repairs.*
Only about 1 in 10 or 20 men investigate. They invite me into their peer group (offer me drinks, show deference). All others avoid me or show neutral deference. This is possible at doses at 5 mcg. At 10 mcg, only the most alpha of men and women will even remain in the room, unless they have no other choice. This is an ancient and potent chemical/social/sexual signal, going well beyond NONE. Bear in mind, NONE has a stereoisomer with no urine smell. I have no clue what it does.
I have tested these measures under room temperature and humidity, in enclosed spaces of under 1000 sq. ft. on Caucasian and African-American men and women, probably over 200, in ages from 21 to 70.
TBH, I’ve found that far fewer men are liable to challenge me since I took-up mones, compared to before when it was pretty routine.
And of all the challenges I have had, IJ or something very overt none has been most common factor, not P75, which seems to put you way above their league - Apart from work/professional challenges involving A314 of course but that has been a different sort of thing and mostly easier than before.
At 2.5 mcg do you find men are likely to still treat you with respect? I guess alpha guys challenging me in terms of acting like their better or trying to make friends with me when they clearly see i’m on a date.
I think your questions have value, so let me lay it on you. I’m satisfied by the overwhelming evidence that P75 is a genuine phero. There’s plenty of literature on ANOL, BNOL, androsterone, androstenone and A1. If 75’s structure is known and reported on scientifically, I’ve no idea the formula. It has no urine odor, but there’s also an isomer of NONE that has no odor. It could have nearly identical effects to NONE, there’s just no science to turn to. There’s no studies that ask college girls to rate arousal for this. In terms of sexual potency, it seems to be about 70% of that in NONE. With P83, it’s bottled sex.
Let’s assume 75 is an adjuvant to NONE for fertility signalling. Caffeine is an adjuvant to aspirin. The two combined are quite potent, but caffeine by itself offers no pain relief at all. Scientists suppose that NONE helps women and men mutually signal optimum fertility for conception. If you want to see how Far out this is, find out about how NONE is used to artificially inseminate sows (female pigs). Women can only carry one child per nine months. They can only conceive with One man’s sperm. They are fertile only a few days per month. NONE not only attracts the fertile women (and some others as well), it seems to induce sparring and combativeness between men for the fertile girls. The Instant Jerk effect is not always what we want in social situations an dates.
However, there are many advantages to the repellent effect of P75. It is selectively repellent toward men. I see little repellency at all in women up to 5 mcg, with adequate buffering. In contrast, NONE can be repellent in some cases. P75 rarely induces aggression in men in terms of them being combative. However, 75 is far more powerful with perhaps 5 mcg of NONE. NONE is well tolerated in this mix applied to the chest. HERE’s THE KEY: the repllency of 75 remains, with little downside. 75 counteracts many of the aggressive and combative properties of NONE without harming the sexual side. Can you see how there is an advantage to keeping the fertile female near while other men are repelled by the 75? They won’t be aroused by NONE, but women will. Can you see how 75, if it occurs naturally with NONE, benefits men in the evolutionary sense? 1000 years ago, when many humans never made it to age 30, can you see how being a natural NONE and 75 producer would give you a profound advantage genetically? If not, let me know.
Yes I really like p75. It is arguably one of the best mones I’ve found at androtics.. Some others here have said the same about it.
I am very happy with a product that attracts women and repels men… that is the holy grail of products.. And the funny thing is it doesn’t produce aggression like you see in heavy none mixes.
I like it best with shine, but some days I find that too edgy so I throw on some ammo IO IH.. very careful to use only 1 spray of ammo.
Thank you for the insight.. you seem to have a very good understanding of the chemical makeup of these products.. I know the exact makeup of p75 is unknown but you seem to speak in lingo conductive to a chemistry major I enjoyed your insight into p75 so much I nominated your post… COngratulations.
When I was at Swiss Chalet on Sun K was there and I wore p75 IS ammo IO IH… look guys the first thing I noticed uncharacteristic of her was she approached a group of people in the lineup who were sitting very close to me. Could it be she sensed p75 but attributed the signature to the group?
Secondly when we all sat down she was looking at that group and had a huge smile on her face which I rarely see. Could it be once again she sensed p75 but attributed it to the well dressed men and women and not me?
Finally she walked into the room like 5 times in 5 minutes.. Could she not just be more systematic and walk in once and do the whole job? This time though I was too smart.. P75 self effects had me thinking hey I am the alpha here.. Those guys aren’t. So I APPROACHED her even when she didn’t give me eye contact… She conversed and later attributed the signal to me.
The reason I think so is when I came back from the washroom there was a big grin on her face like she hadn’t seen me in years.. Without thinking I just said HI and walked by her back to my seat. She didn’t answer… Why?
Well I think p75 is good but if you don’t take the lead and lead quickly the signal will be attributed to any other alpha in your vicinity..
I simply HATE when this happens.. Here I am wearing mones and other guys are getting attention? No FUCKING way.. Excuse my french but that really defeats wearing the mones.
So bottom line is p75 leaves me conguent enough to take action.. Its a double edged sword.
But back to my original point… do you guys think p75 is the reason she kept coming into my territory? It was hilarious to watch.. Like 5 times.. She wasn’t making any eye contact with me however, maybe she is but a girl and p75 makes me have balls of steel.. i don’t know.. maybe she senses I am a pure man hahah
With P75 I have found that anything above 5mcgs is way too much, I have it in 7.5mcg per spray and when I bought it I thought that more equals better which is not the case at all with P75. If you are going to get it, get in in 2.5mcgs, it is the way to go.
I can’t get it to work at 5 mcg even.. I can only get it to work at 2.5 mcg.. 5 mcg and I am too lucid, other men get VERY challenging (making fists at me etc), and most people are not very accepting of my vibe… I think my sweet spot if 2.5 mcg… Seems to work wonders ona regular basis.
Yah I am often trying it out with P83 and P79. Seems to work best with a 2:1 ratio with the P83, I am still trying to tie P79 into the mix, it seems as if it is still hit and miss. P75, when it does work is amazing other times I have found that is has an almost ghost effect. And when it does work it also makes men leave you alone, like they don’t mess with you, like a respect almost or an intimidation. What is your perspective?
Age is factor here - I can use up to 7.5mcg P75 in normal balanced mixes but I’d generally not exceed 5mcg in anything overtly sexual. Unless I was wanting to compound the effects of IJ for a purpose.
Try P75 and just 3-4 sprays of IO. Researcher Grammer, in 2005, conjectured that ANOL “makes males more attractive for females.” But, female sensitivity to pheros (sometimes) peaks at ovulation. ANOL and NONE work together, but in different ways. If you think IO or ANOL is just for talk…well, there’s Much more too it than that. OK? Let’s look at this thread again. This test mix had truckloads of ANOL per spray. Would be too expensive these days. Yet, it’s based upon science, not just guessing. And, still, there just isn’t rock-solid data that makes ANOL a 100% attractant. I will continue to say it has a role, however, until disproved or until a better and cheaper alternative rises up.
I KNOW what 4 sprays of IO and 2.5 - 5 mcg of P75 does. It’s dopey, trippy, Spacey (get it, Spacey?), goofball, blonde-sugar-candy nectar. Why you think they used to sell 50 mcg. ANOL as a recreational product? Leave out the IH for now. Keep your ANOL/BNOL ratio at 70/30. They keep it there in IO based upon the testing. You’ve got good BNOL in the 4 IO sprays for bonding and truth.
Why you think young girls always wanna do shots and get all trippy and whacked-out in 'da club? Girls often love the spacey, bubbly effect from ANOL. Seen it, seen it, seen it.
I wonder If my size has anything to do with how much I can use, never thought about that, and I will try the Socials with the P75 see how it balances it out. I mean I am 6’3 200lbs solid, so maybe my height is too much when combined with the P75 at 7.5mcgs or more. I have also noticed that on Days I have worked out, P75 does not work as well, probably due to elevated T levels.