Getting ready to create a fallout mix, so I know that A1 is important. I do not want to mix my own so I have considered Cohesion. Is it any good in a fallout or does someone have another route I could take?
There are many other routes you can take and A1 is not the only phero to consider in fallout mixes.
Cohesion is reasonable however but I get the inpression that some of its other components do weaken its effects a bit.
Saying that, IME Cohesion oil in concert with A314, it still does pretty well and I do rate the oil well over the spray.
Mixing/dosing A1 is dead easy and gives you a good head start on mixing for other pheros as well. Worth learninig.
What is IME? It looks hard as I don’t even know to do all of those mixings. I was going to try 7ml Mens New Pheromone additive.
Do you have an alternative or something better? I am not sure, as I have never tried the fallout before. This will be my first time. Getting ready to make the order in a couple of weeks. I always plan ahead to be certain of how I want to go. A314 oil, IH, P83 10mcg, IO, P74, and an A1.
IME - in my experience.
Plenty of alternatives. Check Kotov’s Fallout thread - Very up to date there.
Out of those suggestions, I would say to use either A1 or IH/P74 - Don’t pile them in together or the mix will become unmanageably soft.
Possibly not a great deal of A1 in NPA - Regard it as a secondary, along with P83. IO is a fallout killer - Keep any alphanol in the lowest possible proportion in any fallout mix.
So, just go with Love Scent? Also do not use IO and IH with Love Scent? Can you provide a link to a good Love Scent site as well as someone who can explain its use?
Not answering your question but what does fall out mean in this context? been a while since i’ve been at these forums
IH is fine to use - In fact it is near-essential in some fallout mixes. Notably the IH/P74 combo. Its alphanol content is kept in check by its low proportion compared to betanol.
Just search for Lovescent. The site is straightforward and there are any amount of threads on mixing/dosing NPA here already.
Two of the best fallout threads on the board are right at the top of the forum just now. Read them!
Awesome.
So, for a Fallout mix here. I’m going to try A314 oil, androstadienone as my A1, P74, IS, IH, and TUTH. Is there anything you would advise to include or subtract?
74+IH is a good alternative,but doesn’t hit hard like A1.if you’re not into diluting stuff,stay away from concentrated alcohol A1.it stink! smell like BO 
it also breakdown easily in the heat because of bacteria from sweat,when it does it smell even worse.oil A1 is the way to go brother,much more steady and it last longer.if you wana play it simple,skip LS A1.just get yourself some heavy A1 pre-mix formulas like cohesion,certo(alpha dream silicone based)or true love oil.those are comfort and bonding to the max.people say that the DHEA in cohesion kinda block that crush effect a little bit,so if that worry you.get straight A1 oil from steve combine it with 314 and you’re good to go.i tried cohesion with 314 and it’s pretty good.but what I noticed is straight A1 hit them harder,stronger crush effect and more clinginess
So its True Love Oil? Just want to make certain. This is $$$ we’re talking about…lol
EDIT: Where would I find it. Cohesion is not what I want. I want to hit hard, so where is the true love oil?
Its actually best if fallout mixes don’t hit too hard. They need time and repeated exposure/removal to develop to their fullest extent.
That’s why you need a core mix that contains the main fallout components that you can wear anytime, then steer it with secondaries for different situations.
This is why I need help Mobo. The Fallout thread with Kotov is awesome but really doesn’t explain how to do it in many cases. Like Cohesion, is t a good fallout A1 or not so good. Is there another that doesn’t need my clumsy mixing? Like I am hearing about True Love oil. Is it good? If so, then where can I find it?
A1 alone is good, so are the various other combinations - Just don’t pile them all in one mix or you will never sexualise them effectively with any amount of none. A1, A1/A314, Cohesion/A314, IH/P74, A314/IH/P74 and IH/IS are all first class core primaries that have delivered the goods with different people, age groups and situations, repeatedly. IH/P74 or A314/IH/P74-based mixes are probably the easiest to use and dose but Cohesion oil is such a good and unproblematic implementation of A1 that I’d go for it if you are going to combine with A314. Steve also does something called CrushXS that is A1-based and aimed at fallout that looks promising. I’d only just started with it when I had the surgery.
If you are going for A1 alone, or in other mixes (remember it behaves a little differently to other fallout pheros and you may suffer the downers from it) then I’d go for either Lovescent or Liquid Alchemy and mix them. I remain highly suspicious of True, for a good number of reasons, although TL oil is the only one of their products I’m remotely interested to try.
No, I was going to use the A1 for one of those Fallout combos I saw on Kotov’s thread.
So the one’s you just mentioned are the best deal.A314, Cohesion, P74, IS, IH, and TUTH or AMMO is just too much, or just right? Would I need P83.
CrushSX already mixed?
Remember, what you tell me will play a role in how I order.
I recently ordered some crushxs and cohesion. Going to start playing around with crushxs, some IS and see how it goes.
All those are good, although I would only use one spray of Ammo for scent purposes as it also contains alphanol and I wouldn’t use P74 in a mix at the same time as A1 because they are both fairly effective none moderators. IH can be useful with A1 but go-easy. P83 is also interesting.
P83 would be useful but not essential - You could easily introduce it later when the situation/interaction starts rolling in a physical direction.
Yup, CrushXS is premix spray. Probably the easiest to use of the lot after Cohesion oil (A1 really suits oil - slowburn effect and a lot less risk of stink). Its under the Beta Testing tab. Initially I’d either use it standalone or with A314 and maybe add some TUTH when getting into a more uninhibited/sexual environment.
Okay, I’m going to keep all of this in mind. Cohesion Oil> CrushXS?