Viable fallout mix?

Hey everyone

I’ve been studying with this girl every week for 2 weeks and have been using a fallout mix I created. My question is, will this create a deep fallout?

My age: 21
Her age: 23

The mix:
4X IS
2X Ammo
2X IH
P83 (20mcg)
1X CrushXS (from discoverxs)

Ditch the Ammo.

The Alphanol in Ammo is the fallout-killer and you have plenty moderation/balance from the IH/Crush (A1). Use a little TUTH or plain Androstenone instead. Maybe start with one spray, then increase if results are positive.

Ammo would be viable with Crush or Crush/P83 as Alphanol does not affect A1 so badly but it will wipe-out any fallout aspects of IH/IS.

Also maybe think on getting the IH/IS proportions closer together?

P83 is superfluous, esp if you are just in “study” mode but it won’t do any harm at all if you are in a good situation to get physical.

Ah, I see. I really like the smell of ammo (so do most girls I know) so could I somehow keep it in the mix?

What dosages do you recommend for IH/Crush/p83?

This girl just broke up with her fiance and is heartbroken. She was completely opening up to me about it, which I found strange since we pretty much just met. The guy treated her like crap. Could I somehow use this to my advantage in the form of a mone?

Also, we sit in a class room all alone so it’s a perfect place for intimacy. I noticed we were sitting pretty much face to face when I introduced the p83.

Maybe one spray for scent - but with fallout mixes, I’ve found it important to keep any Alphanol in the absolute lowest proportion to all other mones.

IH dose is reasonable - you could maybe go one spray higher and reduce the IS by one spray to match them better. Esp if you get a spray of TUTH in the mix.

Crush - I’ve not done too much with that but its pretty high on the A1 (@50mcg OTOH?), so I’d stick to one spray or you will completely flatten everything else.

Sounds good. Also, I agree with the Crush flattening everything. It definitely feels like my entire mix is flattened when I use a spray of crush.

Maybe think on moving to a different mix then?

Fallout properties of IH/IS are quite light compared to A1 and it might do better with just Crush (or Crush/P83), Ammo for scent and a bit of TUTH. The A1 will still moderate well.

I do actually have some A1 spray. Should I use that instead?

What dose is it?

Crush is good, possibly better than A1 alone but if you feel the A1 dose is hampering the other mones, then a lower dose could be appropriate. A1 can be very surprisingly effective in low doses. :slight_smile:

Wasn’t at home when you sent this, it is 20mg spray I think. Also, I’m not sure if it’s killing the mix as I’m not an expert. However, the “scent” of crush is overwhelming and kind of “neutralises” the scents from the other mones, if that makes sense!

Couple pictures of the bottle:



(I’m not sure whether to trust it)

OK, one spray should probably be fine - I find A1 most usable in mixes in the 12.5-45mcg range. 45mcg suits fairly robust/overt sexual mixes, so for a lighter mix, 10-20mcg should do much better.

You and me both have this problem Lol. :smiley:

Ghost on the XS forums says that Crush contains Nols while DHEA was removed from the formula, since Crush follows mostly Cohesion’s. Of which Alpha or Beta Nols, idk.

And if your fallout mix is anything like mine has been at work (Cohesion oil+Connections for a few months)
You’ll begin to notice after a week or two of appropriate socializing how a girl from repeat exposure acts around you.
(though i have to say, the self-effects weren’t the greatest, but I pulled myself through lol)

You could get something in a custom of FF21 - Or buy a bottle of FF21 scented PA alone and use it in any mix.

Yes but from the feel of it, I would hazard a guess that there ain’t a lot of Alphanol in Crush and that Betanol is in a higher proportion. However, A1 stands apart from all the other fallout combos in that Alphanol is much more usable with it. Is the IH/P74 or A314-based fallouts that get ravaged badly.

You might look at just the A314 B spray. Just 1. You’ll lose a bit of respect but gain fallout. Also IG + P96. Those are my notebook entries. More reports this spring. I’m testing every steering component active at under 5 mcg. Maybe the first report on P77 and 103 in a good while. My current sketches say that 314 oil steering is not offering the requisite comfort for fallout except for selected users. That’s the issue I see. No comfort in 314 oil for the average woman (privately insecure about her looks and status, even if publicly denied). There was an interesting article on Sharon Stone coming to grips with aging and looks. Ironically, I think the oil can make women down on themselves a bit and pull back. I’m saying women put on a good show, selectively play men against each other to see who gets the sex and put on a good public face…but cry at times in private and are unhappy. I’ve dumped gallons of P74 on the oil. The IH steering works but can require saintly patience. You may see nothing obvious at first. And A1 melancholy does exist. You feel the slight tug of it just in Dial.

Yup, 23 is becoming viable for A314/b and Ammo should help steer it on a 21 guy. Many younger guys here have done well with that.

A314/TUTH/P96 has also done well for me this last three weeks - on two women in particular. One was working in close proximity in a small and over-hot booth, she had no issues with stripping down to very little and I had her chest in my face a lot of the time, whilst her mid-20s colleague was getting steadilly more little-girlish around me and was trying very hard to get me out for a drink with them last night and only let me away after I promised to come to a party with her this weekend! :smiley:

you don’t need alot of A1.surprisingly it’s very effective at only 10mcg.TBH you don’t need alot of products for fallout.the 2 deadliest fallout mixes are nude alpha+A1 and 314+A1.dead simple but shocking.i hardly wear fallout mixes anymore,because it can be bloody problematic.especially married women wana cheat on their husbands.that affectionate lovey dovey craving ain’t no joke

I have yet to experience this…

what’s the reason for this?

yeah at first I used to be skeptical about fallout,but combining A1 with 314 or NA for a while and all I can say is it was one hell of a ride.very pleasant but at the same time problematic especially with women you have no desire.Api is another good base,but nothing can beat NA or A314 if you want meaningful LTR material.yeah I know it sound unreal,hard to believe.but well groomed,play your part,throw in some mones and it’s fascinating

What age were you when you tried this? I’ve never had any good effects with A314 (I’m 21)

The alpha nol component of IH appears fallout superfluous. Simple IG and P96, preliminarily, is compelling. If the 8 yrs. of research here offer a platinum, single-oil or spray fallout formula, the enthusiasm for it’s marketing is not in evidence. And yet, a top-selling competitor spray was developed with mones sold and tested here. This thread is another of 100, clearly demonstrating public demand. As I see vendors releasing new beta products every week, I fear the research here is at risk of being overtaken by an external juggernaut. I have offered my full support to SmartMones effort to make fallout products. It could be the best since original A314. I fear the urgency of forces in the pheromone marketplace…all the changes in just one year, is not well understood.

How is this million-dollar P96 to be used? I look for the Eureka moment. And look. Other than my P96 + IG mix, there’s sadly nothing new under the sun not already in the Kommander Whatshisname fallout thread. A1, P74, IH. The usual suspects.