A1 vs MX412

Hi guys after some discussion and as requested by JS, I’ll be comparing the effects of traditional A1 vs MX412.

(And on this occasion the text toolbar has decided to work, so I’m crossing my fingers that the text won’t lump since forum gets buggy on me on and off… So here goes)

Here is a prelude and prior write up before I start with MX412

For the purposes of clarity in future reports Androstadienone/A1 will be referred to as A1. MX412 will be referred to as MX412.

A1 so far has been one of the best pheromones I’ve ever used. I’ve mentioned before in passing that A314 + A1 is one of the best combos when going out with girls who are the driven type or status conscious girls. This combo was also referenced as an IBF mix, I give credit to the user who told me about this combo, I can’t remember who, but to the dude who told me to try A314, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

It helps reduce bitchiness from girls, it makes them really comfortable about you, it is the definitive space reducer when it comes to girls, more so than any of the other putatives that I have tried. It seems to put them in a better mood around you. I have yet to see any crush like effects or a “strong currents beneath peaceful waters” effect (maybe that’s why I can’t see them) but A1 is magic, and I can see why so many users loved IFM. The socials when used with A1.. IO + A1 or IH + A1 is like an instant “pep up” for girls/the ladies.

Contrary to popular notion, A1 does not create a complete “Bitch Shield” (I mean shield from bitches, not the PUA term). You piss them off, you take the heat, A1 will reduce the sizzle but you’ll still get burnt. Its magic but not that magic. A1 is also not without its negative side effects. Some of you might have heard that A1 causes depression in guys, some have felt it bad others like Gegogi haven’t. Personally A1 makes me a little melancholic. Nothing that some IS or mx297 can’t fix, however having said that A1 can act as a negative mood intensifier for guys sometimes. So if you’re already in a bad or depressive mood A1 just makes you more depressed. High none might make you more aggressive or IO might make you rant more in such situations but A1 will bring a lower low

I have tested P74 and P78 in comparison with A1 and found that P74 is NOTHING like A1. P78 comes the closest in terms of positive and negative self effects, with negative self effects more pronounced for me than A1 but A1 is still ahead in female comfort and space reducing.

ps. It would be interesting to read reports of females who use A1 for self-effects in calming themselves or “feeling better” during difficult times/periods and whether their use of MX412 feels similar

I forgot to mention that I do not dilute my A1, I use it in its estimated 50mcg per dosage (drop) form. I have found that 100mcgs is my favourite dosage. Some have remarked (even during personal discussion) that anything above 40-60mcgs is just plain wasteful, however on a personal note, I have found that 100mcgs is ideal for me, and I can tolerate up to 3-4 doses of A1. Anything beyond 3 drops I find wasteful and I would rather refresh on A1 every 2-3 hours.

One thing I have yet to explore is the result of A1 being converted into none as a result of perspiration and sweat, so far A1 has worked well for me in air-conditioned environments and when outdoors refreshing out of security has served me well.

Another thing I didn’t write in was about other male depression or decreased moods exhibited when the user wears A1. This can be easily fixed by wearing mx297, IS or P74. For some reason mx297 doesn’t only negate the negative effect presented to the user it also negates the negative effect on the guys around him. A314 + A1 does somehow seem to make other guys uncomfortable.

Todays Mix

  1. IG (standard IG 2 shots) + A1 (100mcgs) + Ammox1 (1 shot) + ISx4 (1 shot)

Day Work, Office Environment: No negative effects very very smooth compliance from female co-workers. No remarkable or out of the ordinary experiences with the guys.

Got to talk to one of the cute interns and managed to add her to facebook. Tempted to ask for her number but refrained (personal reason). I’ll see how things go, we’re suposed to have lunch together tomorrow.

  1. mx297 (3 shots) + TUTHx1 (1 shot) + A1 (100mcgs) + IHx4 (1 shot)

Dinner date: Target was an ex-flame of sorts, we were really close and attracted about two years ago but never dated and things were more platonic than romantic just close, I probably wouldn’t evenly consider her an ex-flame. She’s now attached, supposedly commited. First time I’m out with her with mones, I haven’t seen her for about a year, especially since she got attached.

SHAMELESS FLIRTING ALERT including a line that went “I can seduce you right here right now, you won’t be able to resist” (ok I"ll spare the further details, its just flirting anyway). I have never seen her flirt with me that much ever. And this was while in the car after I picked her up. It toned down during dinner, She spoke of uncertainty with her current boyfriend, her worries and all.

The ride back home was a little bit more uneventful, kind of more meaningful conversation and less playful bantering/flirting maybe because we were both tired or maybe because the mones wore off but this was good too.

Arrghhh the squishing happened again

Keep the post going; really insightful.

My previous estimation that 1 drop of 1mg/mL concentrate contained 50mcg was off. It turns out a drop of alcohol is actually only 20-25mcL (according to measurements performed by myself and others). So one drop of your A1 concentrate contains 20-25mcg of A1.

Which means that your 2-drop sweet spot dosage is about in line with others’ reported dosages of 40-50mcg :slight_smile:

I tried to post a correction in the thread where I originally shared my erroneous 50mcL/drop estimation, but my posts are held for moderation and that one never made it out. We’ll see if this one does.

Where did you buy your A1, Johnny? I would also like to test out A1 and have a feeling I would not have much of a negative reaction to it. I have gotten very interesting results (:wink:) with MX412 mixed with -none products over the past couple of days and am looking forward to testing on new subjects when I get back from visiting my family.

Nice sharings!

Now … how old are you, Johny?

How many drops of each do you use in that combo above?

And finally … have you noted a certain age range that combo hits?

I thank you, and my pig named Chicken thanks you! :wink:

Word on the streets is that it’s 25 mcgs per drop from the full strength batch; and then I heard there was NO difference between the full strength and half strength as for mcgs per drop.

Hmmm… I bought it from LS. Some other users have told me that its considered the most expensive source though.

  1. 2 drops in mix (1), 3 drops in mix (2) with the extra drop as insurance for the TUTH vibe. With IG and in office environments I tend to use no or less A1 unless I’m looking at a possible target or I know I’m meeting or will be working with crabby ladies. I have been rotating IG, A314 and mx297 as my base.

A314 + A1 works on the young and old, ie. 20-29, however it tends to be more pronounced on girls who are driven or rather more worldly wise. There are the normal simple girls and then there are the go getters, A314 hits the go getters. A314’s status/alpha effect still remains in that it does still somehow makes them a little quieter around you but the A1 creates a connection and they’re comfortable, with conversation, quiet and kino.

When in doubt, replace the A314 with mx297. mx297 with A1 gives consistent hits too and is all around great especially with the younger girls and you don’t have to worry about negative reactions from the guys.

I liken A314 to driving a Bentley or Maybach while mx297 is capable of coming across as a BMW series 6 or Aston Martin DB9 volante. A1 convinces her to ride with you, smoothens your journey and adds a little colour to your car.

Ah it didn’t squish this time, I’ll try to edit post 2

Pig named Chicken?!!? Haha, did I read that wrongly

Thanks dbot. This does shed quite a bit of light on things.

Only if you read it backwards, Sir J. :wink: