A314 asian testing thread(I'm in China)

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Well i’ve finally arrived in china, and i have an unlimited supply of asians to test this stuff on, so im really excited.

3x A314
3x shine

I got a hit almost imediately with this. She was asian but a london native. I saw her look at me and give me a big smile( I was about 3 feet away), but i pretended not to notice half becuase i wasn’t ready for the interaction, and half because i was curious to see if she would open me. She did not, so i opened her.

I could have said HEY MY HAIR’S ON FIRE AND I HAVE SIPHILIS ALL OVER MY BODY, and she still would have thought it was funny. I had attraction right of the get go, it was great. Im educated in the mystery method and i’ve taken 2 of their bootcamps.(I highly reccomend them. PM me with any questions.), but sometimes if im not in ‘game mode’, I don’t do that well, and i forget stuff. this turned out into a friendly interaction that had i not had the pheromones on probably would have put me in the friend zone, but that wasn’t the case. I’ll have another shot to run solid game on her. She was definitely interested.

I get the feeling A314 works better on submissive girls, so i might be playing with a magic bullet here in this country.

I can’t wait for class.

Which combo gets girls' attention on exchange in Singapore: A314 with IS or CTTM?
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Hun hao!

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This is going to be a little longer than my usual posts, but damnit I got some hits, and I’m going to tell you all about them.

Ok, For starters, jet lag is killing me, litterally standing on one of my feet so I cannot escape and just pummeling me repeatedly with its fists laced with malicious sleeping poison.

With all this, I can STILL notice effects of A314.

3xA314(2 from ear to jaw to ear, and one under the nose)

Today was the first class. Last year, class kicked my ass on a daily basis for the first few weeks as I was in between the skill levels and just chose to challange myself in the name of bettering my language skills(It worked). Im sort of a language nerd deep down I guess :roll_eyes:. (I like to tell myself that its to help me woo ladies of other nationalities :cool:, but thats a long way off at the moment)

This year, I have the skill level I need for the class, but I’m a little rusty, and I need a few days to refresh myself. Today could be defined as:

“The center of everyone’s attention.”

Like I said, I was absolutely exhausted, so dealing with this attention was a little difficult. It came from all sides. My teachers seemed to be picking on me. My classmates seemed to be rallying behind me. My jokes, sideways comments, and body language were all scrutenized.

However, this makes it all seem like it was negative. It wasn’t, in fact, very little of it was. The only negative part was that I was barely able to handle it.

The teacher continued to call my name in class in situations I really didn’t want to here my name in. I hate looking like an idiot if I don’t know the answer, and I hate it more if I have to stand in front of the whole room to show them I don’t know what I’m doing/was too tired to maintain my focus. I guess you could look at this as a good thing, as it forced me to pay attention, and allowed me to absorb more material. Thankfully, I have a large drive to be good at this, and I was able via entering this very strange state of tense alertness which I have never seen come over me(Im as calm and cool as anyone you’ve ever met). I never get motivated like this in College. I graduated last spring(finished in 4 years, econ major, Chinese minor, did just fine), and maybe its a function of finally taking the classes that I wanted to take, but something was different.

The class is split into two parts, and we have a different teacher for each part, and the second teacher was doing the exact same thing. Thankfully I had pulled myself together somewhat and it was starting to look like a come-from-behind victory with her. That by the way was great, I was litterally silently pumping my fists at correct answers I was getting to this listening comprehention quiz we had. The the 3 japanese girls thought it was hysterical.

There were 3 Japanese girls who sat near me, 1 next to me(the cutest of the 3, about a 6.5(cute) in my eyes) and the other 2 directly behind me. There were plenty of open seats, but they chose those, I have no idea if thats a hit, but it certainly doesn’t end there. Just like the day before, just about anything I said caused the 3 to laugh, and if I added some sort of facial expression or body language, I could have them all doing thatscreaming/giggle like the stereotypical japanese school girls you are all imagining.

I was in a spotlight to them it seemed. The best example I can think of this is the following:

I’m not one of those people who can just sit still, I look around alot, continually looking for sources of sounds or other interesting stimulii(I’ve got ADD, I know, no suprise) However, if there is nothing going on, I tend to find my self scanning the faces of people in the room, seeing if I can somehow see into their brains and figure them out, or see something interesting there or something like that. These aren’t blatant stares, just my eyes darting around the room from one to on the next. Now, only one of the 3 girls I mentioned spoke english with any sort of fluency. During breaks, the three of them would engage in conversations completly in Japanese, getting to know one another, as they had only just met for the first time in this class. Every time I would look at them, the fluent english speaker seemed to feel compelled to tell me the gist of their conversation while the other two would stop talking so I could hear clearly. It was “oh we are talking about japanese characters” or “oh we are talking about her boat trip over from Japan” like I somehow silently DEMANDED that she tell me these things. I didn’t care, nor did I really want to hear about it, but it was an interesting rxn.

Also, the same girl must have told me just how great she thought my spoken chinese was about 3-4 times or so even though I was certainly not the best in the room by far. Not even the best out of the 3 of them. I never brought it up to my knowledge.

Also the fluent girl told me to complement the girl sitting next to me on her performance in front of the class in the way that you nudge the hopelessly shy guy to talk to the cute girl. Im not hopelessly shy, nor anything really like it, and I had already high-fived her, so I was a little confused by this.

At the end of class the cute one also asked for both my english name and chinese name, and had me write them down in her notebook. When I asked what she was doing for lunch, she told me she was meeting a friend, but she would see me tomorrow in class and gave me a big smile and that short armed twichy wave thing Asian born girls tend to do.

I left class in sort of a weary daze part because of the strange way everyone had treated me, part because this class is doable but difficult, and part because I could have fallen asleep standing up in the middle of a warzone.

After a quick muslim noodle lunch I went back to my room and passed out almost immediately.

What a way to start the day. :o:o

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That jet lag can be a killer.

You’ll be through it in a few days.

What area/city are you in?

Any issues with pheromones on the flights and/or customs? I’d expect more coming back than going out. What sort of arsenal did you bring?

Keep up the reports! Hopefully you’ll have the chance to get out and about amongst the native Chinese also. The culture has changed dramatically in the last few years, especially in the big cities. Like America from the mid '50s to the mid 70’s, there has been a corresponding loss of “innocence” in China. If you can draw distinctions between reactions of city girls/country girls or peasants that will be very interesting data. The more information you can give on ethnic subtypes and specific areas the better.

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I was nervous about the pheromones coming over, so I didn’t wear any. I don’t need any drama on international flights. I was also a little worried they would get taken from my luggage for inspection, but nothing of the sort happened.

You may be in luck in a few ways.

  1. I’m going to be staying in China until im Fluent. Anyone who has studied chinese before understands that for an american native to achieve true fluency, thats going to take a long long time, measured in years, not months.

  2. I brought my whole arsenal with me:
    -A314 :smiley:
    -A314 white cap
    -A314 test series
    -Openness :smiley:
    -Honesty
    -Shine :smiley:
    -Instant Female Magic
    -Jerk :cool:
    -Gentleman
    -Pheromone Proof plus the -none and Alphanol that came with it.(if there was a party face, I’d put it here)
    -Turn Up The Heat
    -Ammo
    -Spaceland:o
    -mx200 :roll_eyes:
    -mx201
    -mx222
    -mx230
    -mx231(this one is promising, but i havn’t tested it yet, other than just smelling it myself. I got a huge sheepish grin on my face when i did.
    -p74
    -p79
    -p83
    -p98
    -p103

With a list this size, You would think I must LOVE screwing with people or something.

Most of the Mx’s and Putatives have been either advertised or reported as having effects on asians, so I expect to see some good rxns. MX200 has already produced some great results from my first try with it.

I’m sure you are all wetting your pants with excitement for my reports on these, but calm down and take a cold shower :roll_eyes:. I’ll get to them all eventually

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Chu1 yan2 bu4 xun4.

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Day 2 test

3x A314(all 3 from ear to neck to other ear)
1xammo

I would have to say that the reaction was certainly different today. I was sitting a row back from where i was normally, and the airconditioner was blowing directly on me. this may have slowed down the dispersion and what was dispersed, spread it around the room rather than keeping it concentrated around me.

I still had the spotlight, although it was dimmer today. the teacher in the first class wasn’t too nice to me. I mean that in the way that she was honest. When i made a mistake, she made sure I knew about it, and told me “that was not very good”. The early part of the class is hard because im half asleep thanks to lack of sleep from jet lag, and because its early. plus, the early part focuses more on reading characters which is my weak point. nothing really special happened for the first 1.5 hours.

Once our second teacher arrived, things turned around. I started to wake up, and i got a coffee. The latter half focuses on speaking, which I am stronger at. Also our teacher is cuter as i think i mentioned so maybe i’m trying harder. who knows. either way, I was in a better mood.

As I was waiting for the second half to start(we have breaks) the guy who sits next to me mentioned how he noticed this second teacher staring at me the day before alot. This just reconfirms what i posted yesterday. Today wasn’t really any different in that regard. I caught her looking at me a ton of times. When i went up to read in front of the class, there was some sort of exchange of looks and body language, though i can’t remember what, but it followed with her giving me a big smile and a wink!

It caught be off guard to say the least.

We are going on a boat cruise of the Huang Pu river tonight, and I asked her if they let teachers go on it, and she said " Oh I don’t know" while smiling and shaking her head. I said “too bad” and went back to my seat.

After class she passed me on her bike and said “byebye” twice.

My assesment is as follows:

I don’t think the A314 which i applied an hour before class really hit full force until I was half way through class when they turned down the A/C. My mood noticably changed. The ammo on the other hand which I applied directly before class was in effect right away, and may have produced some foul responses. As that faded, the A314 just took over and it covered the ammo. However, the wink may have been the ammo’s final effect. I’m not sure.

My friend ended up meeting some japanese girls(I assume from his class) who we ended up going to lunch with. They seemed content to just be along for the ride with us. They are living in the same dorm as us, and agreed when I suggested they ride on the back of our bikes so they wouldn’t have to walk home. However, just as we were going into our room, my roomate let some AFC needy stuff slip from his mouth about wanting to give them another ride, and being available whever they wanted to go, so that wasn’t so good. I tried to recover, but it was over, the damage was already done. we’ll
see how that goes. I hate fighting uphill battles.

All in all, i would never use more than 1 spray of ammo here. and I probably wont use it again until the weather starts to cool down. (i sweat alot every time I leave the A/C, its incredibly humid)

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Great report!

We all stand or fall on our own merits. Don’t worry too much about the companion. Your personality will soon be known.

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Day 3

Today was a good day for a few reasons.

First, because I finally had a successful day in class. I’ve figured out how much work i have to do to make my teacher happy. More than I’d hoped, but it will be worth it down the line.

Second, because last night we had a boat cruise on the Huangpu river with 500 of my classmates. I generated more social proof on that trip than i have ever before in my life. Today in class girls were pretty much lining up to talk to me, some of them could barely put one foot in front of the other while they did it they were so nervous. I was wearing an instant openness/Mx200 combo which seemed to work quite well. I’ll make a separate post about it somewhere else.

Thirdly and lastly, is because not only is the A314 continuing to do its job, I’m starting to see the effects of wearing it daily around the same people. Namely my cute teacher. As i’ve said she just stares at me all the time, but today it was taken to a new level. I have a wire/cloth flower thats attached to my backpack which a female friend gave to me before I left China last year. It got me through customs without a single question on my rediculous numbers of DVD’s even though the guy in front of me was given a huge amount of problems. Thus i’ve just kept it regardless of what people say.

Today during our class break, the teacher (her friend was next to her) asked me why I had the flower, because “only girls like flowers”:open_mouth:. I told her, which promted her to ask me if I had a girlfriend. I told her I didn’t, which I noticed made her friend smile. Then she asked me why I didn’t like her…I was confused, because I didn’t think I had given her this impression at all, but her friend then jumped in and said that I had said I didn’t like her, to which i responded(finally understanding) about how earlier I had been refering to a particular grammer point, not her. The two of them had obviously been discussing the point.

Immdiately after that, my social proof from the night before came into play, and girls rushed into the room engaging me in conversation while her and her friend just stood there not knowing what to do. They ended up getting up and leaving the room, to do whatever before class resumed.

The conversations were strange ones, but again I’ll get to that in another post. Either way, I looked like a champ.:cool:

Thank you Androtics for developing and marketing A314 so well. It is truly a masterpiece.:roll_eyes:

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Is this your first trip to China?

All these reactions have to be seen in the context of the reactions of Chinese girls to American guys. You may be attributing too much of the reactions to pheromones.

I have a picture I use to bug my wife, of me surrounded by about 10 beautiful Chinese women, vying for my attention. My wife took the picture, and now she hates it. No artificial pheromones were involved.

In my experience, it’s mostly guys who will call you a hairy Mei Guo gue zi. The ladies don’t seem to mind at all.

What is the makeup of the student body you’re associating with, and that provided the “social proof.”

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Like I said before, the vast majority are Asian. My program has alot of japanese people in it, mostly asian born although I had some great hits from some american asians as well(a few from California, 1 from Boston,1 from london, and 3 from Italy.).

I guess this would be a good time for me to mention some things about myself. I’m a decent looking american guy(I’ve been told about an 8). But in my experience, that doesn’t matter a whole lot. I recently took a mystery method bootcamp course. While it is hard to run what the MM guys would refer to as “solid game” here due to the language barriers, what I have learned(and I think this is more important that most of the structural issues guys have) is to go out and have fun. That is the key. Have the highest energy fun time you can muster, and due to this you will have other people excited. You can then feed off of their excitement and keep the cycle going. When you do it you’ll know what I’m talking about.

Now, to get at the meat of your question.

No, this is my second trip to China. I spent 3 months here (pheromone free and ignorant) last fall. I understand that there is a certain amount of extra attention I get just for being white, and I know what it is to be here without the aid of pheromones. Boys, I want you to listen up and listen good.

The average guy is a 5 in a girls eyes before he opens his mouth. If he’s a model, he might be a 6 or maayyyyybe even a 6.5 if he’s really a pinnacle of human creation. Its what you do after that that really decides whether or not you are considered the high value guy that whatever girl you are around has been hoping to meet. So regardless of the fact that I’m american(especially in expat ridden shanghai), its much more important that I don’t let girls intimidate me, and that don’t try to come off as someone I’m not. I’m (becoming more and more) congruent with who I am, and I’ve really started to see it give me results.

I don’t wear pheromones during all parts of the day. Only parts where I know im going into situations where I intend to be social or in close quarters with people I’m interested in. There are other times when I’m out and about just doing daily things like going to the grocery store or eating dinner when i decide I want to be social with someone I see across the room. I use these interactions as a baseline.

Yes pheromones are definitely amplifying the reactions. There is no doubt in my mind. I see the DIHL’s and the way my teacher stares at me(Its bording on 100 times a day. Today actually turned into blatant open flirting to the point where the class was no longer focused on the Chinese lesson and simply focused on me and the teacher. To answer your next question, no this has never happened before nor have I ever believed this could happen to me. This doesn’t happen to me in my daily life no matter what country I’m in. :cool:)

However, Always remember. All you will ever need to get women is what you are born with. The pheromones are just bonus points that make things more interesting, in some cases, MUCH more interesting.

If you like Asian born women, Mx200 is a must
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Great data!

I am at least as interested in the unique cultural aspects of your settings as the pheromonal component. Both are required to get an understanding of what is happening. It appears that you have a mixture of people from around the world, thrown into an environment where they are not completely fluent in the native language. This alone should facilitate bonding amongst the student population.

Right now, as everyone is in a new situation getting to know each other, relationships are pretty fluid. It will be interesting to see how things develop and mature over a longer time frame.

  • will a girl be able to “stake a claim” and will that influence the reactions you’re getting from others?

  • how will the developing understanding of your personality affect the initial reactions?

The city “on the sea” has it’s own unique culture that is known throughout China. Although I haven’t been there, I get the impression it is the Chinese cultural equivalent of New York. ie - hard-driving, business motivated individuals. A bit of a reputation exists for slick talking and unethical business practices there too.

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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I wore 3xa314 and 1x ammo today. Im not wearing ammo in china anymore. All reactions were tense at best, and i got this vibe from my teacher that she was thinking “Oh man, another white guy hitting on me.” My demeanor didn’t change, I sprayed the ammo on the back of my neck to make sure of it.

Ammo even at low doses seems to have negative effects on most women here. the guys acted normally.

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I wonder if the effects will be different (and more welcome) later in the relationship, when you’re not “another white guy.” Also, if a woman is accompanying you in a somewhat possessive manner, i.e. has “staked a claim” to you, it may take the pressure off others and make the -none signature less threatening to them.

Just speculation, but you might want to hold onto that bottle of ammo for a while.

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I agree, good analysis. I’ve already stored it in the bottom of the bag.

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Today i made a mistake. It turned out to be a fun one. I acidentally made one of the drops were 2 or 3…after i already had 3 on. I was intending to have 4, but i ended up with 5 or 6.

I may be out of college, and chinese ‘chinese classes’ may be way more difficult than your average US semester course, but they still have that undergrad feel. that means every once in a while. probably once every 2 weeks. I go in late to class, or skip one altogether. It just feels right, and hey, I need my beauty sleep:o.

Anyway, as im walking in late. (after every 45 minutes we have a break. I walked in at the end of that break) The door was still open. As i came into the other students line of view, I saw the smiles spread across their faces. even the guys who are around 50 years old. Some of them I eat lunch with, some of the girls i just smile at from time to time, some of them I barely talk to. But anyway you look at it, they were all smiling. I was the that important guy that makes the class interesting for everyone. (Never in my life have I occupied this role)

As I walk through the door, the teacher is standing right next to me(by chance).
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this is interesting**
She is saying, “go home go home” through a huge smile and giggles. Its like her policy is generally that if someone is late, not to let them in. I would totally buy it that she had this type of policy. She is the same teacher that told me i was a bad student during the first few days when i was still really rusty.

I just smiled at her and walked right in, and she had this big grin that just left her powerless.

Not a few minutes later, I had kind of spaced out(this post makes me look like a terrible student :frowning:) and she asked me “dong ma?” (do you understand) I looked up at her and nodded to her, said, said “dong” (I get it) even though I didn’t. She smiles, giggles and with a smile says “I think you are so clever!”…

WTF

This is not the cute young teacher who i had the date with(she flaked, but thats a different story, and Im sure it had more to do with the student teacher relationship)

This is my older 40 something teacher. She wasn’t even that nice to me till recently. This has to be the A314…

Wow, thats all I can say. This buildup stuff is fantastic.

Now with the cute other teacher. I make cute remarks althroughout the class. The class loves it, AND I get to see her smile which is the cutest thing I think I’ve ever seen. (I swear im done saying cute.)

Daily, we memorize roles from dialogs at night, and perform them the next day. These are pretty helpful to me, as its great practice to memorize phrases like that. Thus I work really hard to get them down well. yesterday, I was the best in the class. no one told me so, but i was fluid, and i had the hardest part. I had a slightly easier one today, but it was still on the long side. The teacher made a point to say that we should be making hand gestures so that she knows that we know what we are talking about. no one did it. Everyone just stood up there like logs.

It was my turn. As I’m walking up to the front of the class, I can hear the hushed giggles of those trying to guess what i’ll do that will be interesting. I’ve got the Undivided attention of the whole class. I get really animated on parts that arn’t that interesting. like im miming and speaking at the same time. The class roars. it really wasn’t that funny. I’ve got to say, i was hoping to come up with something more clever. But results justify the means.

My lunch crowd extended to 8 people(including me) today. I had similar reactions there.

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I see you’re back on the forum. So what’s up? Are you still in China? Give us the phero news, us thread stalkers are waiting for updates! :smiley: