I find my mixes with A314 work 12 hours later, sometimes as well or better.
They are mixes with other product(s), not A314 alone, but it seems like A314 is somewhat unique in being able to draw responses so long after applying.
Perhaps it’s the lack of phero-conversions. Or perhaps it’s because A314 converts into a lot of other cool, useful things.
In everything after the very first mix of A314, almost 3 years ago, I’ve taken conversions into consideration.
There’s also a slow and gradual ramp towards more -none, so it’ll auto-convert from daywear to (minor) nightwear. I still recommend additional -none at night, though, applied from a seperate source. That’s why Turn Up The Heat is named Turn Up The Heat! 
The essential oils in some versions from the past year mediate conversions, as well.
Which version are you referring to? What’s it smell like… more minty, more musky, or multidimensional like an indescribable but very light cologne? Those are the three major EO mixes that have gone out in the past while.
Whatever it is about the A314, I’m glad it works out to being beneficial for you.
When you’re dealing with conversions, there’s always a chance the conversion could work against a wearer. Don’t see it much, but, let’s say the wearer isn’t in the best of health. Pheromones may provide a way for people to “smell” the vital stats of your immune system, so conversions (which tend toward enlarging the user’s own natural pheromone signature) could very well work against such a user. It’s not always a health issue, of course. Some people just aren’t blessed with a naturally attractive pheromonal signature.
Do conversions from other products tend to work for or against you?
I’ve used many of the versions. I have five a314’s. I noticed long lasting effects on the very lightly scented latest one, and the one from way back in the day pre- EOs.
I’ve tried to use nol as a source of none for 12 to 24 hours later, but never did me much good. Chikara hasn’t worked favorably for me in terms of conversions. Heavy none doses are the only thing that have given me some decent results a day later or what have you.
Interesting.
The latest one with the black cap? How about the white cap “mutant” that’s unscented, do you have one those those?
Also, have you tried TAF? How’s that convert on you?
I don’t own a white cap. TAF I am a big fan of. I don’t know how it converts, but I can say I’ve warn it with a314 a lot so it’s plausible that’s what giving me the later day effects. However, I use so little – just a half a swipe from the dip stick of the vial.
TAF has been touchy for me. I’m glad it works well for you.
Hmm, I still wonder which A314s you’re referring to.
The very last batch is very lightly scented, but in %-wise it’s similar to some earlier ones, just with different EOs.
Then there’s a “flubbed” batch, that wasn’t complete, and it’s not really scented at all. Two components were added to “denature” it, but not to scent it whatsoever. It smells highly pheromonal to me, if anything. I know we sent some of these to some of our users, at first, marked 2.3 or “3”. Now they have white caps to more easily differentiate.
I’m interested to know if you get long lasting effects on the virtually, completely scent free “flubbed” batch vs. the more obviously scented ones, like the minty or peppery ones.
I doubt I got the flubbed batch. I think I got the very lightly scented one.
I’d say I’ve gotten longer results from A314 than other products, regardless of which one I was using.
I couldn’t use the obviously scented ones all that much – didn’t agree with people two inches from me on the subway or with other fragrance covers.
I’m told you were received 3 samples of the last batches, though. Is that correct?
I’m still wondering which ones they were.
Can you detect typical EOs fragrance at all, or barely at all (more musky) with more of an actual pheromonal odor?
They are marked 1, 5 and 3. Three is my favorite, least amount of smell. I’ve even worn it with no cover. There’s a little musky smell but not much. 1 and 5 are big improvements from the original scented version as well.
Ok, great! That helps a ton.
3 isn’t scented.
1 smells smoky, 5 is the the current release. 5 smells light, pleasing and multidimensional to me, I don’t know how to describe it. Women have better words for it than me, but I can’t remember them.
How does each seem to work again?
1 and 5 I haven’t really used. I’ve most used 3 and the one from the TPS days. Then I have another which was the a314 originally brought to L-S, which was quite minty.
Very interesting.
3 is a misbatch performed by an overzealous filler. It’s kind of like A314 nectar, missing one pheromone, and over 20% stronger than it should be.
What it does have is a bit of my diffusion technology.
I’m glad that it works well for you. I’ll take note of that.
are those 1,3 or 5 markings on general product or just a test batch? only curious because i just ordered my first a314 last weekend and interested to know which one of these i end up with.
You’ll get a production batch. You may get a 1 or 5, but never a 3.
3 I ended up putting in white cap bottles, and selling as irregulars. It’s virtually unscented (you can smell the pheromones pretty strongly; at least I can), but it was denatured so nobody will ever be able to drink it or anything else uncouth.
You’ll be able to tell what you got from the scent. There’s the minty one, #1 (actually L2.1) smells very smokey, and #5 has an almost indescribable, but nice, very light scent.
i got my a314 several days ago and thought i would read this thread again to see which bottle i got. it is in no way shape or form minty or smoky, so it must be the indescribable one, lol.
I aquired my Alpha A314 from L-S when they first got the “new formula” in a few months ago. Which “official” version is it? I don’t think I have ever worn A314 for a long enough time during a day for any “conversion” to occurr. Whatever “scent” it officially has seems to me to be good enough to use “as is.”
had a very nice positive comment about my cologne at dinner. the thing is that i put on A314 around noon today and covered with Pheros. 7 hours. it wasn’t just the comment that reminded me of this thread, it was the lingering hug and repeated deep inhaling on her part. in the past, this woman had a negative comment regarding an application of Chikara/Pheros.
lol, its been over 8 hours now and i’m still sniffing my wrists. if she wasn’t working the overnight tonight i’m sure i’d have more to add…
ok, had no plans for today other than shoveling almost a foot of snow off of my sidewalks and while i did that, i never got cleaned up to leave the house or go see anyone and i can still detect the A314 and Pheros on my wrists. when i say i can detect the A314, it may just be the oil base i’m not sure but i can still separate it from the Pheros.
that would be about 32 hours now.
I’ve seen women crazily huff A314 before. I don’t know if it’s because of the EOs or if they really want someone to love (A314 sort of has that “ideal man” vibe that many healthy minded women crave). Maybe both.
I know women huff Pheros, too. That’s some good stuff.
The oil base is long lasting.
One of the recent and rare “super smellers” of A314 also said the scent of the pheromones themselves lasted for days. He had the “nonscented” white cap version.