As I’m going about my day, I’m getting really strong self effects from it. The usual bulletproof feeling I get from it. It has everything previous version had, but it’s also kind of inviting. Like people will do things for you because they actually like you as well. Previous version was more fear based I felt. It’s still has fear with addition of warmth.
I’m wearing 2 drops of A314 Royale btw.
I feel like we need to petition Androtics to bring back rev 32.
This is not A314 by any stretch of the imagination
I’m trying to remain open to the evolution of this product but at this point Androtics has to realize that there are a ton of competitors out there offering products that can nip at the heels of the old batches and cost half the price or less. This is an insane release. After 3+ months of no word at all they release 2 separate versions and don’t give any public announcement about the new mixes OR give anyone who essentially preordered a product that was not complete in early August a choice in which one of the 2 products they receive?
There is no way this made it through any kind of trial phase and the tester decided Royale was a marked improvement over rev 32. Not by a longshot
A314 is supposed to be a dead on, no questions asked game changer. Used at 2 drops at the most and that is with additional buffers like IS or IO. You put it on and within seconds you stand taller, speak slower and deeper, have a decisiveness about you that isn’t questioned and people sit on the edge of their seat waiting on every reply you make.
This “well, I wore 3 drops today and I think I felt something, not sure, but maybe…” is inexcusable coming from the most expensive and tinkered with alpha product on the market
I’m not saying that against anyone who has posted here, of course. But if you check any pheromone forum on the internet right now there are loads of people who have been waiting patiently for months for this release and are now scratching their heads and asking what in the hell came in the mail last week.
For anyone who ordered a product listed as “in stock” and then sat by patiently, defending the product for 7 weeks, while everyone around them was telling them to just cancel their order and pick up a less expensive and more effective alternative: we owe it to every newbie out their to request this nonsense be fixed before more unsuspecting and less informed youngsters pick up a bottle at $109 USD
Some of us are veterans in this arena and unless Naturelle is markedly different than Royale in more ways than the scent package we have a responsibility to the community to ask Androtics to stop shipping this product as A314 and re-release a proper contender
Reishi, I appreciate your enthusiasm and comments. However, I said in my first post that this thread is to figure out what these two new versions if they are new versions do. I’m not interested in complaints about Androtics or stock issues. There is already a thread for that. The goal of this thread is to determine if this product still works. The only way to know that is to get reports from those testing it.
Amen to that 
So I’ve been wearing two drops all day. I’ve noticed that I’m not really getting respect like I normally do with A314. Something is off with this one, even though I feel it working, it’s like it’s missing that alpha vibe. It seems like it’s not a status product anymore. I’d say it’s a social product. Maybe I could compare it to Instant Gentlemen.
Sad, I hope this is not the end of A314.
I ordered now. I think AD still stand back with their guarantee. Just a note to those who are unable to decide on the fragrance, you can ask the support to do so for preferred fragrance.
Also , if you pay through paypal … You can file a dispute. So you can give it a try. AD will not risk that much by selling bad A314.
Keep the reports coming. I will report in a week .
If it is just a smell than I don’t even care. I love it’s intimidating effect. It has been lowered that is been reported. It is fine to me.
Field testers , tell me it’s intimidating effects. How much intimidating it is ?
It’s not intimidating at all. You may still get respect from it, but it’s not intimidation. This is not A314 to me. It’s too weak. I mean I used to OD on barely 2 drops. I’m adding more drops of this one and I’m not feeling anything commanding. Maybe they added something to it that completely took out that commanding, intimidating vibe. Maybe it’s missing something.
I’ve interacted with a lot of people today. Didn’t get any kind of special treatment. Some actually gave me a hard time. This would never happen with the real A314.
I know that A314 would have made my day a lot easier. That’s what it does. Nope, this is not the A314 I know.
Oh, I meant to brush upon that in my rant. Royale had no noticeable effect on myself or anyone around me at upwards of 3 drops without any buffers. No social vibe, definitely no alpha vibes, the smell kills any kind of sexual vibe it may have been shooting for.
In my opinion, based on 7 years of A314 use and 3 days or Royale use, this version is defective. It is so lacking in effects that it seems to be difficult for people to even write full on reviews of.
At $109 per bottle and no official statement announcing the difference between the 2 blends we are kinda shooting in the dark and trying to describe a product that felt as effective as wearing 2 drops of Johnson&Johnson Baby Oil
Wolf is now a more intimidating alpha at $2.30 per ml than A314 at $10.90 per ml.
I’m not trying to be negative, just not understanding the direction Androtics has decided to take on this one
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Rev 31…
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This was my first purchase of a314 and I’m worried..
Test it and see. If you have never worn an Alpha product you may see something the rest of us aren’t getting. All reports, good or bad are worth knowing at this point.
Yesterday
dose: 2 drops no cover
Application point: neck
Self effects: I’m not going to report self effects here because it would be hard to separate my personality and circumstances from the pheromone effects.
effect on others: NO definitive effects
No preferential treatment. I did get rapport and mirroring in a long business meeting. In fact it was an excellent meeting. However, it’s not a new client and we already have a great relationship with them. But the mirroring was easy to spot. People listened to what I had to say but it was still more of a funny sales guy kind of respect. It’s not the lion in the room respect. No one is wary of me moving to fast and destroying everything.
I have another big meeting today with a client that we do a lot of business with but I have less of a relationship with. I’m going with 3 drops.
3 drops today. I used a orange patchouli type cream before applying. Drops on neck and wrists. Just had a large group meeting. Nothing of any true significance, feels more social type of vibe to it, if anything. Heading to another group setting where I will not know everyone and will report back.
3 Naturelle, mixed with essential oil aftershave.
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self effects: there was some edginess to begin with. I didn’t really count any self effects until I spoke and out of my mouth came a beautiful baritone voice. Solid drop in octaves.
Affect on others: The mix appears to be persuasive and friendly. I get a highly paid consultant vibe. Lots of respect to my knowledge. I also feel pretty confident in my abilities above normal. Im getting some preferential treatment. Door holding. People waiting for me to walk first. And the all important space. Now this space I’m getting is from men only. I’m not seeing any solid hits from women, but I’m not around many today. But women aren’t moving aside for me. I have had women stop talking to someone else and make eye contact when I look at them, and return to conversation when I look away. Seems to be some level of anticipation.
at 3 drops for my occupation and use, this is a good stand alone, but still very different from the intimidating A314 that many of us know. I will test 3 drops in a few more settings this week. I have a large conference on Thursday to test with many strangers.
Thank you @JosieW for those results, looking forward to hearing more. Maybe this stuff needs 4 drops because it’s not as strong as the older/better formula? Correct me if I’m wrong.
Man I hope I didn’t go wrong with this order why do they all way’s reformulate stuff when you have a winner stick to it or if you do reformulate make it better then the last but I still have to test mine when it comes I hope I didn’t go wrong when ordering this
Been a hot day. I had 3 different meeting settings. First, was warm room, large group. I had my app on for about 2 hours. Not much from others, I was a little more clear and confident. Next meeting was very large group, lunch setting. A guy gave his chair up for me, but my role in the group possibly not that weird. I went and applied 2 more drops and hit the 3rd meeting. Very social and a little happy feel. No intimidation at all. This is more like 2 other social type alpha products I have tried. Tomorrow I will go high on the drops to test an OD. On a side note, I am horrible at seeing impact on others. The self effects are subtle for this though.
I will once it arrives, hopefully it still works as good. I was excited when I saw it’s available and bought two bottles right of the bat.
I suppose this was my first Alpha if IG isn’t considered one. I’ve had good self effects on that one and the self effects alone was worth it. I would buy again.
After several days of wearing 2 drops of Royale I wore one drop of rev 32.
Immediate self effects and noticeable suave when dealing with coworkers. Felt large and in charge and quite quick-witted compared to the last 4 days of Royale. One drop of rev 32 was typically all I wore for daily use.
I don’t have Naturelle to compare Royale to but when comparing Royale to rev 32 something is way, way off.
I can’t really see wearing more than 2-3 drops though, cost aside, because the smell is pretty bad compared to previous releases as well. At 2 drops I am fighting a headache by an hour or so after application.
I am going to see if they will let me exchange this bottle of Royale for a bottle of Naturelle since this one is not hitting right
Out of curiosity, because I ordered in early August when there were no options and didn’t realize I could be sent one of 2 versions of a staple, when you order off the site now do you get to choose which version you get or is it a crap-shoot?
I got the Royale today, tried it with what I already had on (1spray 2x IS, 1spray IG) and I immediately felt more irritable.Then I went to my classes and people seemed irritated by me. Some people at class that are usually deferential to me without any pheromones were talking over me. Then tonight I was with a girl in the car who is usually all over me and it seemed like she couldn’t wait to be away from me. That could have been unrelated, but it was definitely uncharacteristic of her.
I want to try it solo, but I have work tomorrow and I’m afraid to test it out in an environment where there could be negative repercussions if I piss people off or they don’t respect me…but I’m definitely going to try it solo at some point. I used to wear a314 by itself at work and it was the best…
Incidentally, I actually like the scent itself, it’s subtler: doesn’t seem like cologne more like deodorant.