Try out the TAC combo or the P83+IH combo to help make her feel at ease. Honestly though, P83 is supposed to work best on conservative girls so as long as she’s comfortable enough around you it should take effect.
Let us know how goes!
lol… i’m gonna get home and figure it out… maybe put a group of things together and randomly grab a few haha
Sorry to jump in on you guys, but I’m thinking about this mix: A314 (2 drops) IH (4X, 1 spray) P83 (1 spray, 100mcg) and after spending time at dinner, etc, a shot or two of TUTH for intimate bonding? She has been inseperable the past few months when together for work, and we will be with eachother for several days…is this too over the top? I’m 40, she’s 50, both extremely fit and talkative people. Wildflower, you seem to be the authority on p83…more or less!
Well I haven’t been in a situation like this yet, but so far I will say that A314 has definitely attracted some girls who I never thought would know I existed lol. Now if I was to kiss a girl while wearing this mix, it will definitely plant a seed inside of her mind
Wildflower wanna-be … I’ve never seen/read where anyone used over 60 mcgs of P83 … 30-60 seems to be perfect.
I am going through this as well with the fallout. I am trying to steer this girl towards just friendship but it’s rather difficult. She is 36yo asian. I am 28. I don’t want a relationship for obvious reasons but she is latched right now. You guys are all gurus. I have learned a lot just from reading this post. Thanks.
M&M is dead on… 40-60 mcg of p83 is perfect
Next bottle I’m getting 20-30 mcg depending on what i feel the ideal spot is for me. I’ve had more over the top hits at 60 but have had a lot of really good response at 40 too.
tonight’s dinner - a314 x2, TAC 25mcg, p83 60mcg
I want to thank all of you for supporting this thread as I believe it is a phenemon over looked by many and I want to thank MHarris for pointing this out.
Based off of the cases I read it seems that A314 causes the primal part of the female brain to go haywire and signal “lifelong mate alert”, this causes the primal female instinct of terretoriality wherein she will fight to protect her mate, ie the A314 user.
This “fallout” is essentially a woman realizing she may have found her soulmate and she will grow very protective of him, as Overlord stated when he said his ex didn’t want him talking to another female friend.
Personally, I believe fallout to be good AND bad. Good, because every guy wants a faithful woman and if this stuff is going to give you that then hell it’s worth it 
. The bad is that if you’re unprepared to get locked down this could be a problem and unfortunately for myself, if you continue to stick around a girl too much you create the illusion in her head that you belong to her.
I’d love to get some feedback on this statement as I believe this discussion warrants some thought.
Edit: Didn’t see your post Reclipse, but I want to wish you luck once again. I’ll be trying out a similar mix hopefully this weekend so me and you can compare results.
Quick report -
specific target was “R”. I like this chick.. she’s cute, fun to be around, has a sarcastic sense of humor, and is definitely the type of chick I could see myself in a relationship with.
The mix was good tonight… not as potent as I was hoping, but I definitely saw the human velcro effect with some of my other friends.
Did notice more open body language and posturing mimicking mine from “R”. She also was a bit more physically attentive too, which I was happy about. One of my friends gave me a hug and said I smelled really good and she was curious, so she took a nice whiff of the a314 + tac + p83 off my neck and smiled.
Overall I think I’ll be using this or similar mixtures around her. the A314 seemed to have a good value’ing effect and the overall mix seemed to have a bit of a lasting effect too (based on conversation I’m having with her right now online.)
I did notice the ‘fallout’ type of effect when my other female friends would jump on me or attack me and hug me (mainly “A”). “R” seemed to get a bit unnerved by it and would kind of look the other direction.. almost semi glaring away… maybe the A314 had that type of direct impact already on her. We talk on a daily basis, hang out once or so a week… and I actually have plans with her tomorrow too, so it’ll be nice to see if there’s any residual effects.
Tomorrow night’s will be A314 + p83 + p93 (attention steering/focussing) and maybe MEO-EST (the end of my bottle) to tie it all in.
We’re going to a bike joust and then to an event after… which is up in my neck of the woods so I’m going to see if I can get her to come home with me if it’s late. Not trying to just jump in the sack with her tho as an early hookup may jeopardize future progressions… and I’m not quite willing to go that route yet.
Here’s to more testing!
MAYBE Meo-Est!?!? Should I have a date with someone that stimulates my taste buds, Meo-Est would be the FIRST thing that comes out for my date wear!
M&M’s morning coffee thoughts~!
G’day!
I have a VERY limited supply… like maybe one or 2 more applications left, so I have to be selective on my usage.
Has anyone had experience with an MX272/P83 combo for social bonding?
Whow, she never made it to ex she didn’t make it to girlfriend mainly because of that. At the time I didn’t really understand what was going on. But I did know that this girl was getting between me and my friends from the start so I didn’t go out with her anymore. Now I feel kinda sorry for her since I was (partly) responsible for her behavior.
Wow, my bad!:o
Luckily you broke off from her before she got a good grip on you then huh? Honestly, if the woman is hot then I guess it shouldn’t be a big deal but then again, that’s probably why I’m in the predictament I’m in now.
Not to be nosy overlord, but how did she look? Cause I’m guessing(from my own experience) that the women that usually try to latch are somewhat good looking, say 8 or better.
hmm yeah I’d say a 9 even. But my friends are really important to me, I’ve had relationships where she effectively isolated me from my friends so she could have me all for herself. I don’t want that happening again.
With a314 the higher numbers latch on better indeed. However if you’re dating like 7’s or 6’s (or an 8 with low self esteem) they will propably be scared of. Normally 7’s and 6’s try harder to get you when you’re dating while the higher numbers are used to have drooling men do everything for them. Of course this is a very crude generalisation and this does not apply on every single woman I’m sorry if I offended anyone, but I find it easier to think in this frame of guidelines
That’s the key word right there. The girl I’m involved with is a definite ALPHA girl. Leader of everything, she’s used to having guys do stuff for her(she tries to do this to me) but because I don’t always bend she sticks to me like glue.
Another thing to think about is that these 9’s and 10’s aren’t used to finding many guys that are on “their level” so to speak. So when they meet an A314 user they think “he’s my equal”.
Side Note: Beware, Smallville reference.
In the episode “Instinct” Maxima, a super hot queen, comes to earth looking for her soulmate and she kills/defeats all that get in her way. When she finally finds Clark she tries to kill Lois to keep her from getting him.
This is basically what fallout creates, more or less. What say the community?
Sounds familiar to me
As for your predicament if you like her other then she’s sticking to you I’d say give it a shot. If she’s really an alpha she will loosen the grip after a while.
If you don’t like her other then her looks I wouldn’t go for it. Just be honest to her and say it’s not working for you. Letting it drag on isn’t very comfortable for you, but it sure isn’t comfortable for her either. There’s even an less honest easy way out since she has given you all the tools for a “scared for commitment” act. Just don’t let it drag on
I haven’t dealt with this quite yet… but I will definitely let you know if my current situation progresses further in this way.
Wouldn’t mind having an 8.5-10 try and lock me down like that… if she wants to be my sugar mama hahah
Yeah, well the good thing is that the girl and I have a lot in common but she’s leaving next year so I’m not going to let things get TOO serious between us.
Oh and Reclipse, my advice to you is IH+A314. It speeds up the bonding process 10x fold. So they should “lock on” a little faster than normal if they feel they’ve bonded with you.
haha, well actually I find it’s not always great. When you get 9 or higher the women tend to have more issues
I wish a314 latching would work for my ideal group: a woman with great character because she hasn’t been beautiful all her life or hasn’t realised it yet
Edit: oh and K-train is right a314 + beta nols does a great job at bonding, maybe you could throw in a female relaxant like a1 or meo-est additionally