A314 (v1) vs A314 (v2)

Hello Community,

I’ve been using mones for a few years now and was introduced to AR products via the original versions of A314 and CTTM. I was wondering if anyone has experience w/ both versions of A314 and could provide a comparison of the two.

Thanx,

Scott

Well, I decided to order some MX102. Can’t wait to see how this stuff works as a highly diffusive product. I also ordered some TAA…this molecule really intrigues me and I want to explore it thoroughly. I’ll keep y’all posted.

Hi, Scottie.

First, thank you for being an early adopter of A314 back when it started, and welcome to the forum! :slight_smile:

Now, over the years, the different A314 batches were tweaked continuously to accentuate the positives of the mix, and reduce the negatives. For the oil version, there have be 11 revisions total.

So you can call the latest oil version “revision 11”, or you could call it 2.1 (if you use a software like numbering system… 1.0, 1.1, all the way up to 2.1)

The latest version, for instance, has 9 pheromone components in total, with several male scent components, whereas the original had just 5 pheromones.

It’s quite a bit more complex in a technical sense, but all tweaks were made to address both complaints and praises of A314. I kept working on the formula to make so you could do less work to use it successfuly.

Today, the latest version of A314 still works on the idea of creating the prescence of a strong, ideal “Alpha Man”.

To me, a true alpha male is not the male that reeks of androstenone. An true alpha man lords over such a person, and probably has such men working under them. :slight_smile: If you’ve used A314 for awhile, you know exactly what I mean.

Thanks for the welcome Michael and you’re welcome. The stuff was brand new and apparently ppl just we’re buying it or just weren’t giving feedback. Since I was a regular customer of the e-tailer/contributor to their (now defunct) forum and a big proponent of -rone, they gave me a bottle of A314 (and CTTM1) so I could provide some user feedback. Many mone users I knew were hesitant to use it since nothing was known about it and no one could seem to find out anything about AR at the time (myself included). All I knew was that it was a -rone product and cheaper than CS-rone. I really didn’t “get it” when testing A314…at least not the nuances. I was looking for things I expected from -rone, e.g. the spacing effect. It was only in hindsight that A314 made sense to me. It really enhanced my mixes. Partly due to changing the ratio of the “big 3” mones, as compared to AE/m, but mostly due to the A314 formula, itself. Remove A314 and the mix seems crude, replace it and the mix has finesse/charisma. Does that make sense?

Holy cow! 11 versions…I had no idea.

Yeah, I remember that…now I’m intrigued as to just what was added in the final formula. Thanks a lot, now you’ve got me thinking…this can’t be good.:roll_eyes: :smiley:

I can image what some of those were.

Even more user friendly? I like the sound of that.

I couldn’t agree w/ you more. One pheromone effect I have noticed is when a crowd of ppl parts as you stroll thru a busy club. You get this w/ heavy doses of -none, but it’s out of fear/intimidation. Using a mix that has A314 as the heart of it, even w/ -none included, has the same effect except that ppl respond in a respectful way. I don’t know that I can accurately describe the subtle nuances, but then again, that’s A314 for ya.:slight_smile: Anyone ever watch primates interact (especially gorillas) and notice that the high betas are always battling each other for position, yet the alpha male is removed physically and emotionally from it all. There he sits, calmly surveying his domain. When I’m out on the prowl, I adopt this same point of view. I am utterly removed from the actions of my “subordinates.” I’ve actually used this approach during some -none OD experiences and used the situation to make myself stand out…in a positive way.

How much A314 are you using while seeing this effect, Scottie2Hottie?

Best estimate w/ my mix is about 20 mcg of -rone total, w/ A314 comprising about 2/3 of that. Creating a reasonably “dosed” mix using products that aren’t reliably dosed can be a real challenge.