hi.
i’m planning on 1x IJ upper chest
2x Ammo to the neck
1x P83 to wrists and rub together.
i’m 42, male.
what kind of effects do you think this will yield?
I have NO IDEA, but I will be waiting to read your findings, Sir!
Now, get out there! Have fun! Be fun!
Where are you planning to wear this?
Ammo seems a bit superfluous IMO as the discrepancy in dosage is so great - it will be completely obliterated by the IJ.
Similarly, what strength P83? Again, alongside IJ, I would be looking to dose higher rather than lower.
12.5 mcg P83.
plan on wearing this at bars
for female attraction/arousal.
so do you think keep it simple w/
1x IJ adam’s apple and 2x P83 (1x on each side of the neck)?
i know it’s about experimentation, but
i’ve been having lackluster results with
1x Ammo and 1x MX297 and 1x IS.
I’d suggest dosing the P83 a bit higher - IME the more None in a mix, the more P83 you need to get past the disinhibition point - 40-60mcg would be more like it IMO.
Yes, bars/clubs are the natural home for this kind of mix.
I’m not surprised - at 42, 1 spray Ammo won’t give you much more than scent and I find my sweet spot for MX297 to be 2 sprays. Also, I have a feeling the Rone in Ammo will detract from the MX297 - I’ve never found it good with any Rone product.
You might actually find that IJ/MX297 is a very viable mix in your 40s - but you need to work it hard in a fun/social direction. Similarly, IJ/IS is an interesting, sardonic mix.
Simple is generally better with IJ IME - it suits very direct/uncomplicated/no-nonsense mixes and its high None content means steering is difficult and in most cases loses more than it gains.
W/ that mix, I’d expect a lot of arousal but not much attraction.
predatory vibe, but some women will still go for it.
You will need a large pool of women, a small number will bite
there is not enough steering / buffering in this mix.
You might get a better turnout w/ 2x IG w/ 1x IJ, and 10-15mg P75 + 25 mcg P83.
Maybe like 3 spray Ammo and 1/2 spray IJ + P83 + P75
The rone will give you more attraction, that’s what I’m getting at here.
I get less problems w/ the high eNone when I add P75 to it.
The eNone is alreay at saturation w/ these mixes, so I’m just looking
at how we could improve attraction or deal with angry male responses.
A spray of A314 would improve the steering in this mix.
Can you try your idea, then my suggestion, then compare?
I’d like to see some of y’all try 5 mcg TAL in these mixes…
The bad eNone boy is here, w/ TAL the ladies are more apt to do
whatever it is they want to do about it…
either bite the hook or eject from the situation I’d guess.
Keep It Simple Stupid. (not trying to call you stupid)
Two sprays of IJ, one to each side of the neck. Contrary to what you may have heard ijhad some buffers. Girls will not go running like a virgin in a scary movie. I’ve used a couple bottles of ij in mixes, but found it was easier to just spray solo and go. You’ll also get a better understanding of how it works for you and what adjustments you have to make in the future. As a newbie i don’t think it benefits you to be sprays 4 or 5 products when you haven’t fully grasped how mones work. .02
Best of luck.
Not so much buffers IMO, more steering to enhance its inherent abrasive/confrontational qualities.
And some girls will run like terrified virgins - That’s a sign you are actually getting it right with IJ! However, the ones who tune-in to it - well, just hang-on and enjoy the ride! 
The trouble is, the more you try and tame/steer IJ, the more you lose its basic qualities/directness and just end-up with a high-None mix that is balanced a bit like Ammo.
Personally the main products I’d use alongside IJ are IS, A1 or A314 (in quantity) - all of which bring something more to its inherently abrasive and confrontational nature.
This is why I’m suggesting adding TAL here. We want them to be up for the confrontation, rather than ejecting from the situation in terror. This is balancing out the more TAH-heavy feelings they might be used to, which is more of a pouty “take care of me” feeling. IJ is not sending an I’m here to take care of you vibe - it’s an aggressive vibe where sex and aggression are naturally somewhat confused with each other in line with the way humans are adapted. Pouty just won’t do.
P83 seems to be more related to BetaNol, which gives me that sense of being a communication product, not a status signal like TAL. It can be a sexy communication product, but I agree with other that it needs enone & p75 to light the spark. So what does that leave us with, on it’s own it’s a communication product that needs an emotional trigger. TAF might do it.