Alpha female mix?

Hey guys,

One quick question: What kind of mix you use to create an alpha female vibe? I know IS/A is not available anymore but is there anything that is similar to that? More importantly, is there anything I can use from my own collection? Thanks :smiley:

I don’t go for the alpha female vibe, but from what I have read I think that androstenone is part of creating an alpha female vibe.

Have you tried a small spray of ammo in combination with something to temper it – IS/b maybe?

I’ve had some success using A314, but for women, we only need a little, and it must absolutely be buffered with something else (to avoid being perceived as bitchy).

I did quite a bit of testing with it, this may help

A314 on a woman?

@xev: I haven’t had a chance to test out Ammo that much, I believe it makes me feel more masculine and outgoing. Have you ever used them before? How many sprays do you think I should use? :slight_smile:

@Sillykitty: Doesn’t A314 on women makes other women feel uneasy around you? Would it scare them off or something?

I haven’t noticed that (when buffered or softened with another product of course), in fact, I’ve had women (at my previous job) who had hardly spoken to me previously, become chattier and more friendly. You just have to experiment mixing other products with the A314 to find which produces the best reactions for you.

To be honest from a guys point of view I would be waaaay less likely to approach a female with an alpha vibe but maybe that’s just me, unless you are going to do the approaching.

It’s probably not just you, but it’s not all guys either. :slight_smile:

If she’s interested in an alpha vibe, I’d guess she’s not a wallflower waiting for guys to approach. Or maybe she’s more interested in influencing her career/professional interactions.

And if her natural personality runs towards the alpha side of things, she’s probably not interested in trying to repress that just to get approaches from guys who don’t like alpha females.

A314 doesn’t necessarily give women an “alpha vibe” in the way I think your thinking of…like butch or something.

With the right buffers, it can make a woman feel more confident, outgoing, upbeat, and she will be perceived as a positive, confident person worthy of respect.

So I guess that’s an “alpha vibe” in a way, but definitely not a turn-off, not in my experience anyway. And confidence in a person, regardless of gender, is always attractive.

She might also be a little on the shy and quiet side, and a product like A314 can help her be more outgoing and confident.

I see what your saying and agree that confidence is attractive.

True I always needed a boost in confident, I do experience low self-esteem a lot and I don’t think I’m a bad looking girl (My friends and my workmates all consider me to be an attractive person). Also I’m very quiet in the crowd, I will talk if I know the person well, I have a big fear of rejection (in both social and dating aspect).

Those are issues that I’ve dealt with as well, and A314 has been extremely helpful.

Tell you what, I noticed that IO is something you have, have you found it to help with your shyness? I’ve been thinking about trying out A314 with IO (funny, I’ve tried it with lots of P’s and MX’s but not much with the Instant products), I will test that in the next few days and let you know how it goes. I may try it with MX397 as well, since I noticed you have that one also (unless you ran out since I don’t see it in your list, but I did see it in your reports)..

You ladies might want to consider using minuscule amounts of A314 to supplement whatever soft, sexy lady-mones you usually like to use.

The way I do that with products that are too strong is to mix up a togo-sprayer such that 1 spray = 1/2 or even 1/4 of a drop of product. So you would put like 10 drops of A314 in the sprayer and fill it up the rest of the way with alcohol or perfume.

Thanks, dbot! Though I’ve had great success using just one drop of A314 oil, and splitting it between forearms and collarbone region, then adding another, softening/buffering oli-based or alcohol-based product after, as my “top coat”. :slight_smile:

Actually now that I think about it, IG might be a better choice. I could see a single spray giving an “under the protection of a powerful man” vibe without overly masculinizing the wearer. Perhaps in conjunction with some IS/b.

Alternately, if you want to get into single molecules, I’m thinking DHEAS could be valuable for ladies. In my experience it has some light alpha charisma without being too masculine.

Although, if we are trying to attract someone, we don’t want to give of the impression of being “under the protection of a powerful man”, we want to give the impression of being a happy confident girl who can hold her own (without coming off as butch, of course, though maybe some girls might want that in which case they should just use A314 straight up).

Yeah, that’s a good point. Unfortunately, I suspect it’s something you’re likely to run up against with any use of androsterone, since it’s a specifically male pheromone. I believe I saw a study recently which found that androsterone on a woman acted as a male repellant. IG would at least be softer than A314, but maybe neither would give good results for attraction.

I do think DHEAS is worth investigating, and pregnenolone.

You might find this interesting A314 on a woman?

I have Ammunition, just wondering if it does the same thing? Would it butch me up in a way? I feel a bit masculine wearing it :expressionless:

Ammo contains male sex hormones, which in would most likely repel men or cause you to seem less attractive.