I’ve just started experimenting with mones. I purchased to go bottles of 2X IS and Ammo.
So far I’ve gotten good results from them. Observable results; I’m very happy with this. I can see their value when I engage with other people.
However, I got into mones in order to get myself to the “next level” - in terms of women and status. Right now I’m clearly alpha in most groups I find myself in, but I think I can put that down to simply being well-built and articulate. In addition, the groups I am in are mostly teenagers/early 20s. It’s not really being an alpha, if you know what I mean.
I’m looking for mones that’ll help me out with this.
I’ll be purchasing A314 when it comes out; does anyone have any other recommendations?
I really suggest you don’t jump on A314. You are young and frankly you don’t need to intimidate those around you. In short you will become that guy that people may respect but not want to have a beer with.
At 21, I think Wolf from LAL will be the best investment. Since your Asian you’ll have other Asian women fawning at you. I kid you not, Asian women LOVE Wolf and you’ll have so much pussy on reserve, you’ll need to come up with a rotation schedule.
DON’T BUY Alpha7, they changed the formula and it’s the only mone I ever asked for a refund.
Ammo + IS is a GREAT combo there are many threads that all say the same.
if I have to be honest, A314/A will attract everyone aged 30 and up. I use it mostly for work (work in a bank) and its feelings are more similar to wearing a business suit…
If you are looking for A314, be prepared. Its a pretty serious spray, gives me a damn fine kick but it makes the wearer pretty serious and determined. Its the alpha spray alright, but I managed to freak out the more younger girls because I was a bit “too intimidating”. If you have a job, a serious relationship and want to look/smell good, then A314 is good to go. Else I would aim for A314/b with IG and/or Ammo.
IG - or IG/P75 would be my suggestion esp as Asian women are involved. P75 is a good alternative to None where younger/Asian women are involved and although it will increase the status/impact of IG, if you stick to a low dose of P75 (start with the 2.5mcg), it should be perfectly usable - esp with IS in the mix, or when used alongside Ammo.
I use A314 with XSR37 (P90, I believe) and P74 with little intimidation at 2 drops - YMMV.
I’ll second the suggestion of Wolf and I’ll also recommend CORE from Apex. The two complement each other perfectly.
Although, if you’re keen on sticking to Androtics, I suppose a combination of IG and P74 @ 25mcg will work well enough.
mobocaster’s suggestion was a good one, but the dose, IMO, was not. You’re better off sticking to 500ng-1mcg tops. P75 can be intimidating in general, and even moreso around Asian women. Low doses are fine, though I wouldn’t consider 2.5mcg to be quite low enough.
2.5mcg is easy enough to dilute down or dose-up if needed, so you can cover a wider range in testing. Starting with a microdose is going to make it harder if larger doses turn-out to be required.
True, but one must consider environment as well. If anything, lessP75 is required around Asians. Even 1.5mcg may be too much. And regardless, with P75, unless you’re in a club, less is more.
And remember, P75 is available in incredibly low doses now. The OP may not want to take the time to dilute it down himself - this option is always available if that’s the case.
What does being a secondary mean, in terms of mones?
Also, while I imagine A314/b would be a mostly “status” mone, what can I do to give it a more attractive vibe? Current ideas include layering it with (any one of): IS, Ammo, P75 (for when I need to give the A314 a kick in the butt) and TUTH. I am a bit wary of the TUTH though.
The amount of information on this forum is staggering. So much so that I forget what I read 30 minutes ago!
Secondaries are mones you use in a secondary or steering role to adjust your main products to the environment, individual or bring specific qualities to your mix.
So, say Ammo is your primary product,you could add TUTH as a secondary to give it a more sexual slant or when going into a club where the atmosphere is more suited to a raunchy product, or P74 on a date for its closeness/boyfriending properties or P83 to add its physical disinhibition.
A314/P75 is one combo I don’t like - it can give a314 a very overbearing/hectoring vibe that few people like. IG/P75 however - it does very well on younger/Asian women on younger guys.
Ammo/IS is an excellent all rounder and a small amount of A314 behind Ammo is a proven attraction mix on a younger guy.
A314/TUTH is a no-nonsense mature sexual - good at my age around 30s and over women but apt to scare-off younger ones. P83 just serves to make it wilder around the right women.
I think I’d like to try the Bad Wolf in a work setting
It’s weird, but I can’t seem to tell the difference between any none products around Asian women here. So I am mostly referring to 3 types:
Chinese (Hong Kong local)
Wife (Mixed Chinese & Japanese)
Everyone else (Filipina, Thai, etc.)
What I’ve found, I probably need to document in my journal. In a nutshell, 1. Hates whatever I wear. 2. Loves Ammo, and ignores P75 and A314. 3. LOVE everything.
I should add, that in a way it might be other factors. I am African American, and in this part of the world that’s a social turn off for many women straight from the gate. The exception being Filipina and Thais etc.
Yes, there is quite a difference in None response between Asian nationalities.
Japanese and Han Chinese from a traditional background tend to have the worst None response although you do find the odd notable exception.
Asians from a more non-traditional/Westernised background tend to have a more western-style response to None, although IME you still can’t use it quite as freely as around western womwn and the liking for Androsterone is still quite marked.
South Asian - Thai, Malaysan and Philipinno do show a much more positive response to None - but even then, Androsterone is often the key phero in mixes that suit them.
Malaysians and A1 though - That is a subject worth further exploration. I’ve seen some very interesting responses there.
Singapore has a wide breadth of Asian women; from the submissive, Japanese-housewife stereotype all the way to hot party girls. Even in this range, I can tell that something like TUTH (or in your case Bad Wolf) would not go down too well unless it is used in tiny amounts.
IS and Ammo work well for me amongst asian women. Ammo is good, but IS is giving excellent results. I imagine status-based mones would help a ton, given the nature of relationships in Asia; gender roles are adhered to much more here, so by default a man with higher status would be very attractive compared to a man who seems like he will screw your brains out (not that this is bad in any way ).
I’m having a dilemma - to give a sexual kick to a particular mix, I can’t decide whether to use TUTH or enone! For example, if I’ve got IG/p74 going on, I could add P75, TUTH or enone to increase the sexuality of the situation. My budget, however, allows for only one! Any advice?
So I just received my pay and have a little extra cash to spend on mones! Here is my list of products I want to buy, arranged in order of importance.
IS 2X
Ammo summer
IG 2X
IH
P74
P83
P75
P96
TUTH/-enone spray
MX353
This all adds up to almost $300, which I’m definitely not going to spend I’m fine with getting up till and including 6). But as for the rest; how essential do you think they are?
I’m also concerned that there may be a lack of overt none products in the first 6 products, hence the inclusion of TUTH or enone. As Singapore has a very significant expat population, I wouldn’t only be targeting asian ladies.
Finally, MX353 is just a fun experiment, but its an expensive experiment! I think I will probably skip that for now.
Yes - of all of those, MX353 has done the worst around Asian women - with responses varying from edgy to outright disgust.
Great mone in other ways though!
If you are struggling to choose between TUTH and P75, remember that a very small amount of None is usually quite usable around Asians - but you may have to mist it or use a rod/dropper instead of spraying direct on skin to get the smaller dose.
