This is a simple little mix that seems to bring out a light friendly bantering conversation in both men and women. Sort of “Come Shoot the Bullsh**”. People seem to really loosen up and feel relaxed enough to just kick back a little. Guys use terms like Bud and Pal a lot and women seem to relax and be a little flirtier. The drawback seems to be that it doesn’t last long and needs to be reapplied so don’t use a strong cologne to composite it with. I usually start with 4 sprays (to go) in the morning and reapply 2 sprays every three or four hours.
Each spray contains
10 mcg Alpha androstenol
5 mcg TAC
5 mcg P74
I’m looking forward to using it in combination with IG and/or Ishine. Should be killer for attention. It would also be interesting to see how it works with heavier vibes like TUTH or A314.
These are pretty common in everybodies arsenals so if you already posted about it my apologies, I did a few searches but could easily have overlooked a lot. I’m still not very good at finding posts with multiple experimones.
Just to update, I’m lovin’ this little mix. I’ve started adding two sprays of IG to the first application and a spray later on in the day, but I don’t reapply the IG as often as the alphanol mix.
It’s changed the effect a little from bud/pal to influential bud/pal. More handshakes, more focused on listening to what I say. It’s a good sales mix. I’m also starting to get bug eyes from kids.
I’ll take a couple of days off, then I want to try tweaking it with P79. Or maybe I should see what A314 does to the mix first? Anyway if you’ve got the ingredients it’s worth a try.
I am going to order some TAC for my next order. I can see where the a-nols and TAC (from what I have read) could help do that. NIce twist with the Instant Gentleman also.
I am going to start playing with the P79 again some more now. I never really got a good handle on it - it was actually in one of my first orders from Androtics. I ended up putting it aside as a “figure this one out later” and never did go back and do so. Also thinking about some P83.
Mark, I don’t have TAK yet. What do you like about TAK? I’m going to be puttin’ an order in soon if I can ever make up my mind what to try next. Is TAK on your “must have” list?
Heya Boss! Pheroquirk gave me a puzzle piece on TAC that made sense to me. He talked about it putting people at ease and said it seemed to work best in a group setting. That jibed with my results and put a frame around what had been somewhat inconsistant results for me. I look forward to see what you get from it. At least it seems to be a “safe” pheromone.
My initial impressions of TAK is that it is somewhat of a mood lightener. Not quite like TAA’s mood lifting effect, but more of a lets just have fun and not be to serious effect. I have worn it with A314, Instant Gentleman and a mix that included Raw Power, and it seems to lighten the mood, while not actually taking anything away.
I do need to test further with it to really hammer it down, but this is my inital take on it. I have worn it at 25 and 50 mcg’s solo, and at about 12.5 to 25 mcg’s in my mix.
While I wouldn’t say it’s a must have, after reading your classroom experiments, I think you’ll like it.
SteveO said much the same thing in a post of his although his description seemed to be an even stronger effect - as in “something crappy really happened but I do not care I am in such a great mood” kinda thing.
Same thing in his smells like sex thread, when the idiot insulted SteveO and Lori. Tisha and I PM’d back and forth on that one, and she said that she had just talked to SteveO and had expected him to be really pissed, but he had TAC on and the insults didn’t faze him at all.
I’m going to be testing some MXs for awhile so I wanted to update this before I move on. I’ll be coming back to this mix eventually with some more tweaks but here is where it stands now.
The latest version is 10mcg Alpha androstenol, 5mcg P74, 2.5mcg TAC, 2.5mcg P79. I tried an earlier rendition with 5mcg TAC and 2.5mcg each P74 and P79. I didn’t like it very much. This version is also not as good as the version without P79 but I think it’s from reducing the TAC. The good news is the P79 seems quite tame here…maybe there is a something about a 2:1 ratio of P74:P79 that is good for getting the boost from P79 with out the negatives.
When I come back to this I’ll do the same thing all over again with Betanol. Should be interesting.
I read somewhere that TAC does not work well with TAA (Instant Shine). Renny, did you ever try it with Instant Shine?
Does anyone have an expanation of the TAC/TAA thing? I just got some TAC; I’m gonna have to try it with my TAA myself to see what happens. On paper it looks great!!
Warren, I have not tried TAC with Ishine or TAA. I don’t think it’s exactly accurate to say they don’t work well together. My read of the reports of using them together is that they “pull in different directions”. I’m not sure that means the same thing although it could.
Eslite, thanks. Long term this is an attempt at “CTTMcubed”. Just something to play with.
Well, I’ve left this little mix out in the wilderness for far too long. I picked up some of the “plant musks” DPG and cologne strength neroli diluent awhile back to try to slow down the diffusion on this mix.
Decided to leave out the TAC while I’m figuring out how much DPG to use. I’m currently using 10mcg alphanol and 10mcg P74. To this I added 10 drops of the plant musks DPG from the included glass dropper and enough cologne strength neroli to fill the To Go I’m mixing in, about 3ml. First off let me just say that without any pheromones added the neroli is really awesome. It’s much fresher and brighter smelling than in the instant products. The plant musks also have a very pleasant smell by themselves and mix well with the neroli.
The P74 Alphanol mix is very casual, friendly…might even say calming. It’s definitly upbeat though. Customers seem to hang around but not in a lean on the counter and BS way like they did with the TAC. They are shopping…that’s a good thing.
Not sure what I’ll do when I’m done with this to go. Probably bring the P79 back in with out the TAC. And cut the DPG back to 5 drops. 10 drops is probably too slowing. Trying to mix this stuff gives a real perspective on how much work the lab techs do. Thanks Amy and Josh!
Yes, the DPG is a drop down from the dropper bottle menu and the neroli is a drop down from the spray bottle menu. Both are under mix supplies. I was very impressed with the smell of both. I didn’t realize how much the phero content of some products altered the smell. Ya live n learn!
I got cologne strength. This was before the store started defaulting to neroli for Ps and Es and I have a lot of unscented stuff. I figured the 6% might dilute too much. It smells really good before I mix the alphanol with it.
