Anyone know how I can somehow mimic the effects of AMMO. I’m doing this based on what AMMO has done for me and what the other Instant lines have done individually.
I ran out and haven’t been able to get a hold of the FF21 scented one.
I’ve done 1 spray each of IO, IH. I also did 2 sprays of IS, 1 Spray of TUTH (save another for later on). I’m just not getting the effects I wanted.
With the exception of IS, the rest of the bottles are to-go so i’m guess i’m getting very little in terms of mcg of each.
The difference in spray sizes is there but honestly negligible imo.
There really isn’t another lone product like Ammo because there’d be no point in having two products that do almost the exact same thing.
That said imo if I had to use ONE product for general attraction in place of Ammo it’d be Shine, the charismatic, “feel good” vibe it gives off is very attractive, just not overtly sexual unless either another product or YOU take it that way.
All AD’s mainline mens products save for Shine are based off of either None, Rone, Or Nols, Ammo has equal parts of each. So if you wanted something REASONABLY close to an Ammo effect you’d want a Rone product; either Instant Gentleman or A314, a None product; either Instant Jerk or multiple sprays of TuTH, and a Nol based product, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty or CTTM2.
Thing to keep in mind if you try this however is that each product has more total mones than Ammo so the effect will hit a bit harder AND most of the products contain other ingredients that steer it in it’s respective directions.
A314 is 23mcg, 18 of which is Androsterone, the rest mystery molecules designed to steer the Rone in a mature, high status alpha male direction that rone alone can’t do.
TuTH2x is 5mcg of None plus molecules designed to steer it in a very sexual direction.
Or you could try a 15mcg spray of Instant Jerk, mostly none but again you got those steering molecules designed to take it in the vibe of a cocky asshole that gets a lot of play.
And Instant Openness is 15 mcg of nols. 70% Alphanol, 30% Beta.
So if you applied one drop of A314, three sprays of TuTH (Or one spray of Instant Jerk) and one spray of IO, you’d be fairly close in quantity and ratio to 6 sprays of reg strength Ammo (6 sprays is a lot for most people)…but the steering molecules of the other other products will produce a fairly different effect I imagine. It’d be like the rone in ammo being even more alpha, the none being more sexual and the nol being more talkative.
Ammo is a classic mix of the Holy Trinity: 1 part androstenol, 1 part androsterone, and 1 part androstenone. Ammo 1X is 2.5mcg per spray of each mone, so you could buy 2.5mcg Experimone (highest & cheapest dose level). I assume you want to do so you can use your own cologne as cover?
If you’re really into homebrew and integrating your own scent, consider using concentrated chemset mones. You can still keep the same ratio and dose but the higher mone concentration won’t dilute your cologne much, preserving it’s integrity if when you mix them in a bottle.
Yeah, but what other steering molecules are in there that makes it toward sexy and friendly and not just randomness? (I bet it is around 0.25 mcg of like 4 or 5 molecules …p83 and p74?) If 2.5mcg of just those three and nothing else, any other joe smoltz could duplicate and sell it. Heck, even I would make and sell it to Love scent and call it “Dynamite”, instead of ammunition, lol
However, you can use -bnol if you prefer that effect. It should only give a slightly different effect and I am pretty sure that many users have tried it before with good results.
AD has long claimed Ammo “Contains 3 human pheromones in an attractive department store quality cologne.” Back in the day they had Ammo 1.5 which contained TAA as well (liked that one). Ah dunno, I’ve messed around with the AE and Ammo ratios a lot and the results were not “randomness.” In fact, the results were similar or better as I could tweak & supplement and use a much better smelling cologne. If you wanna add P74 & 83, go right ahead. That’s the advantage of homebrewing: you get what works for you instead of the same-old everybody else buys.
Hard to say, to some the lack of steering molecules is what makes Ammo so versatile and easy to work with.
With three separate products you can come reasonably close to the quantities and ratios of a very heavy application of ammo but each products steering molecules will be taking it in a different direction. This could be good or bad I imagine. I’ve used A314 with heavy TuTH applications and IO and gotten great results. But changing the A314 to IG, or the TuTH to IJ…or both could make things a million times better or totally destroy all the positive effects I enjoyed with the first combo.
I mean consider that IG is similar to A314 but is (from reports) much less intimidating and gives the vibe of a very likable guy, then adding IJ which can be very aggressive and confrontational…you have two products that from their descriptions anyway sound like they’d contradict each other. This could result in either the IG possibly working as a buffer for the IJ or the IJ and IG almost canceling each other out. I have yet to use either product but plan to as soon as they become available.
or, the more likely thing they’ll just soften each other, ij people might not like cause it’s to aggressive, ig on the other hand to soft. they complement each other? not cancel these are just my thoughts tho, i really don’t know
these are just my thoughts tho, i really don’t know