How will the NONE in the ammo react with P75 when mixed together? Thinking of trying it but I’m not sure how it will mix together.
I personally consider P75 chemically vary similar to Androstenone. It may exist on male skin in combination with NONE or may be modified from a naturally occurring phero. If it’s found on male skin, it must have some evolutionary purpose, just as Androsterone does. It can be, for some (but not all) men, a NONE substitute. 2.5 mcg produces effects for me equiv. to 2.5 of NONE. However, it is “naked” and will always require some buffering with IO or IS, something like that, or it is simply to aggressive.
You will need to try it by itself and then in a socially buffered combo. You’ll never know it’s benefit with or without AMMO or NONE unless you test it first. You will not understand its utility for your chemistry. Its best value may be for men who are not successful with conventional NONE-based products. It’s been in use for over five years. It is not flawless, and has not yet made it to the consumer line. That rather tells you where you stand. It is quite complex. You will find over 100 forum posts spanning many years.
A little P75 alongside Ammo works nicely. Increases its sexuality but without the potential negatives of an equivalent dose of TUTH. If you go easy on the P75, the Ammo will still be reasonable balance. Maybe just a bit of IS, or Just Summer Ammo. The TAA/P130 in that really suited P75 well.
As always with pheros…the asterisk. I am probably in the minority. With three sprays of IShine and 2.5 mcg of P75, women want to lick me. Add one spray of FF21 AMMO–they run like an Son of a B*tch. Figure it? I can’t. Happily, the P75 can work for me instead of AMMO or NONE products. Because of that fact, my future mixes will be with P75 and socials rather than NONE. Of course, it’s taken me over 40 hours of testing to come to that. I strongly suspect I produce heavy eRone and eNone. This explains why I get strong hits of IShine alone…and others say they don’t like Shine.
I have a sort of phero laboratory that would be an anthropologist’s dream. The costs of testing far exceed the pheros, but the data are perfect. All of the effects are highly granular and dose specific. I KNOW what 5 mcg of naked P75 will do for me. I offer the info. strictly in the neutral sense. I’m not saying don’t use it, but it would not be my choice for a first order. It just seems to have waayy too much subtlety to it.
“P75 and P76 , if they end up acting pheromonally in a generative manner, may actually end up being stronger than androstenone … so caution should be exercised. I’d start very low with these.”
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/p74-217-post3272.html?highlight=P75#post3272
I believe this is so. Only Androtics, deep in the Top Secret vaults, can know for certain.
1x ammo game + 2.5mcg p75 + 2x IS + 2x IH = girls go crazy
P75…aggressive? Nah. I’ve been experimenting with 5 mcg of it alongside Ammo and a little Silver Shadow. Works great, doesn’t put me on edge, doesn’t put others on edge and makes me swagger when I walk…lol Win win.
Funny you should mention it as I’ve just finished work on an adaption of the ammo formula that I’m calling “Artillery” and so far I’m getting Amazing results from just a couple of sprays
Per spray mixed in a 5ml to go bottle
2.5mcg Enone
2.5mcg ERone
2.5mcg A-nol
2.5mcg P83
1.25 mcg P75
I have also added 2 drops of EOW to the bottle
So far this is proving very effective as a standalone and gives me amazing self effects, even better then A314, if the summer version is Ammo’s laid back chilled younger brother then this mix is its steroid taking, Car stealing older cousin.
If anyone is interested in testing it let me know 
Do you find IO added in would hurt this mix? Why did you leave it out? Where do you see this mix working? Only on dates, or also in non sexual scenarios?
Given my history with K (caucasion, early 20’s , university) the girl I’m working on right now who gave me her number but flaked on me later, do you think I should go with this mix or stick to something like 1 ammo, 2 IS, 2 IH, 2 IO?
I want to bond more with her and get her talking before I ask her out after her exams. Right now she seemed distant so I need something to get her to come around and open up to me and drop her guard.
Something social, sexy but not something that gets her thinking he’d just make a good friend.
thanks pal!
No, when I first meet girls, I use 1 x ammo + 2.5 mcg p75 + 2x IS + 2x IO. Young girls REALLY dig this mix. Works well socially and with first dates, esp with girls in their 20’s.
The following meeting, I change over to 1x ammo + 2.5 p75 + 2x IS + 1x IO + 1x CTTM2
Then for the next meet-up, I switch to 1x ammo + 2.5 p75 + 2x IS + 2x IH. The last one works well with the girls that have some comfort level with you. Their feeling of connectedness and rapport with IH is justified, which makes them more open both emotionally and sexually.
When you know it is really on, go with 1 xTUTH + 2.5 mcg p75 or 1x ammo + 2x IH + 1x IS.
Remember to go from IO -> CTTM -> IH with each meeting. Throwing in p83 in there too at the end. It should be useful when closing
Coolkat
I’ll keep your mix formulas in mind!