Ammo Test Pack reports

got my Ammo test pack a few days ago now, starting with MX275 which will be tested exclusively until finished.

Day One- One spray to throat above collar. Smells like Ammo only much more mellow to me. While i like the scent of Ammo and appreciate the professional work that went into its creation, the final scent has always come across to me as a bit feminine in its delivery, in other words, while i tend to be a bit discreet and fly under the radar, one full spray of Ammo makes me feel like i am announcing my presence to everyone in the vicinity.

no reportable hits to mention from Day One. one spray and circumstances meant this first spray was mostly (if not only) for me.

**Day Two-**Half spray to L&R side of neck, half spray to inside of each elbow.
Sprayed at 8am, by lunch time i was sniffing everywhere to see if i could still detect the Ammo scent. It was there, but barely. This is a distinct difference for me from my regular Ammo supply since either full or half sprays remain detectable for a full day.

no reportable hits to mention from Day Two. Spent quite a bit of time in office and driving around the island, so no real close personal contact with anyone.

**Day Three-**1 drop A314 behind each ear, covered with 1/2 spray of MX275 followed by one full spray MX275 to throat.

noticing that i don’t feel any particular aggressiveness with MX275 that i have with -none products in the past. Either this stuff is buffered quite well or there isn’t much -none in this one, or, perhaps i am just getting used to regular -none use again (for the first time in 2 and 1/2 years).

As for reportable hits, around 2pm had an unannounced meeting with my boss which ended up being quite smooth and pleasant. this is most likely attributable to the A314. usually meetings with the boss are or have been one sided, on this occasion he deferred to me quite a bit, asking and implementing rather than stating and leaving. definitely A314 at work.

Good idea to have a journal dedicated to ammo test pack! I hope you will get more and more good results really soon :slight_smile:

I had some hits ranging from ok (barely noticeable) to good, nothing blatant yet, but i kind of like mx279 and mx276

**Day 4-**Advance sales meeting. actually that should be read as a prep meeting for those of us assissting in the sales of original artwork at a party this evening. Pretentious artsy fartsy types, talking about “the broken cup used in this piece represents the life cycle loop…”

I’m only doing this for a friend, they know i can close so they are looking for some help. I don’t understand art and really have no interest in it whatsoever. The fact that there will be free indian food and alcoholic drinks tipped the scales..

Anyway, driving to this meeting I applied a total of 3 sprays MX275 (1/2 each side of neck, 1 to chest, 1/2 to back of each hand)

Turns out there are only 6 of us there, 3 were the “artists” the other 3 of us the sales team. the other 2 in the sales team i have never met before, both thai ladies and attached. 1 i would hit after 2 or 3 quarts of Chang, the other would take at least 6. i’m really not impressed with the art or the scene and my mood is definitely one of “i’d rather be just about anywhere else but here right now…”

i order some chicken tandoori and mojitos and chow down while the artists ramble on about circles and life forms. i do notice that thai girl number 1 has made extended eye contact now on at least 2 different occassions but the sense i got from the eye contact was one of “i’m lost, please can you help me?” i maintained eye contact as long as she could hang, my own eyes telling her “i’m confident enough here for the two of us, just hold out a bit longer”…

The venue for the art party is a trendy indian restaurant and bar owned by another friend of mine, art is displayed on two floors. downstairs is a traditional restaurant scene, upstairs is much more “hip” with a VIP room, DJ etc. anyway, we all migrate upstairs for the final artists tour and as the artist describes his feelings about one painting in particular, he uses the word “surprise” and that is the only word that i focused on, since i was 4 mojitos deep i was checking out the thai girl the whole time. at the word surprise i look over at his artwork to see a half hidden female nude drawn from the belly button area down. ok, surprise. i turn back to check out the thai girl (who, as i said earlier , is attached) only to find that she had been watching me look at the painting, and kept eye contact once i returned to checking her out. she didn’t have the lost look this time , but rather a more confident smile to her eyes. we held eye contact at this point for at least 5 seconds again, neither of us chasing the other away.

we move on to the final display, inside the VIP room. due to the layout we could not all fit into the room walking side by side so only the artist walked in, going over each piece while we stood as a group at the entrance. as it happened, i was in the back, and when he went to one piece in the corner, i had to step forward (and directly into the backside of girl #1) putting my chin directly over her shoulder and my right hand on her waist.

no resisitance.

now, i have no intentions of boning this girl as there are 64,000 other hotter women on this island, it is literally flooded with beautiful petite ladies, but, it is nice to think that after we left and she returned to wherever she came from, especially if it was to return to her boyfriend/husband, it was almost certainly going to be me she was thinking about.

tonight, for the actual party , i will use 4 sprays MX275 and it will have to be the final MX275 solo experiment as the To Go bottle will be less than half full after tonight and i need to try it in combo with something…

**Day 5-**Time for the actual party, on the drive over i applied 4 full sprays of MX275 (1 to L&R side of neck, 1 to chest and 1 split between the backs of both hands)

I am totally not in the right mental state for a party, even told my girls that i thought about making an excuse to get out of it altogether. i just really didn’t want to be there, i’ve been very busy at work lately and just wanted some down time.

i arrive about ten minutes early as i am supposed to be part of the sales team and i am one of those people that is always on time. i got here a bit early so i could get at least one cocktail down before i have to deal with artists. immediately after i show up, both girls from the night before show up and whoa they both look fucking hot. both were ready for a night out at the clubs after the party and it was apparent from the way they were dressed.

the girl i had been making extended eye contact with the night before had on a white 1 piece pant suit that was basically see through, her skimpy bikini panties were like a fucking neon light to me and goddamn i wanted to bite her ass. her friend was equally if not more sexily dressed, from my earlier report i said i would need about 6 quarts to bone her but one look at her white full length dress (also mostly see through) and i started to think about taking both of them.

immediately after they show up, the second girl bee-lines over to me and does not leave me alone for the rest of the party. in fact, after she showed up, the party was secondary as we were so engrossed in each other that after about an hour, a friend came upstairs and found us sitting knee to knee, leaning in to each other to talk even though it wasn’t particularly loud and required no super close proximity to hear.

now, i knew what the score was so i did everything possible to boil this frog. we started with basic chit chat at a friendly distance and within about fifteen minutes she is lifting up her dress to show me a motorbike scar on her knee. i used that opener to make physical contact, drawing my finger along the small scar and then resting my hand on her knee cap while we continued to talk.

probably two or three minutes had passed like this before someone else entered our own personal VIP room and she realized the position we were in, blushing and straightening out her dress. this person must have realized what was going on here and he left immediately. as soon as he left, she leans totally into me, talking directly into my ear telling me what she thought he must have been thinking when he saw that etc. there wasn’t any loud music, so certainly no need to lean in so close.

we needed to refresh our drinks at this point, and as we were part of the “sales” team, we decided to at least get out and walk around the gallery. after ordering new drinks i join her at a painting and she immediately grabs my elbow and pulls me in to talk about the painting. neither one of us have a fucking clue what any of it means and it was pretty obvious at this point that neither of us cared.

we spent the next hour and a half talking with each other in more personal and familiar ways, never giving a potential “sale” a second thought.

i had pretty much taken this one as far as i could in that setting, i knew i either had to take her out of there for some extra curricular or ghost myself as i have two girls sitting at home waiting for me to return and take them to the market fair for some shopping. i knew from talking with this woman that she was leaving the island the next day to return home and she wanted to go out clubbing with her friend after the party finished so i made my exit after having her basically force her business card on me and “promising” to come see her.

when i got home to pick up my girls for a night of shopping, one of them immediately said in thai how good i smelled, she even stated that i smelled so good it was going to make “some woman” horny.

as for possible self effects, i’m not sure if my initial red hot reaction to both of these girls that i had seen the night before and described their bonability in terms of the number of beers required can be scored for MX275, hell if any of you had ever been to thailand you would know that you can’t walk down any street here without seeing a thousand different women that will make you feel the same way.

i was, however, able to “attract” this woman who i didn’t even say more than ten words to the night before in the sense that she immediately closed the distance and approached me. it was absolutely no problem then to separate her from the pack, have her lift her long dress and rest my hand on her knee in a public place and then share some reasonably intimate personal details with me, all in the course of two hours.

i really don’t like the idea of 4 sprays of anything though, so the remainder of the bottle will be combo’d with who knows what in the days to come.

in summation, MX275 has a very pleasant, more subtle scent to me than Ammo. still smells clean after several hours where Ammo still smells like a strong cologne. i don’t have enough to continue testing solo at the 4 spray level. i don’t think i ever had the same overtly “horny” self effect as i experienced last night with just Ammo, when i saw those two girls. i’m a horny bastard anyway and thailand is chock full of eye candy so i really don’t need that sort of self effect anyway.

perhaps if i was stuck having to live back in the american midwest with all the cornfed heffers i might need it, along with a box of viagra and a blindfold.

**On to MX276

Day 1-**Again as is almost always the case, new product, routine starts fresh, 1 full spray MX276 split between L&R sides of my neck.

very pleasant scent, i am absolutely not under any circumstances the person that can be relied upon to describe a scent or a wine for that matter, but, immediately after spraying this one i thought, “this is what i want to smell like”.

Lunch time now and it’s been 4 hours since that 1 spray. As i’ve spent the majority of that time in my office and completely alone there have been no opportunities to observe reactions to either the scent or pheromones (if any).

What i have noticed, different from both the standard Ammo and MX275, is that after 4 hours from that 1 spray, i cannot detect any cologne scent whatsoever. Ammo sticks around (seemingly without diminishing in strength of cologne scent) for 8 hours or more. MX275 appeared to me to be a much more subtle Ammo scent but still remained “sniffable” 4-6 hours after application.

4 hours after application of 1 full spray MX276 and I am not able to detect any cologne at all.

**MX276

Day 2-**3 Full sprays from the MX276 To Go sized bottle. 1 Full spray to L&R neck, 1/2 spray to each inner elbow.

applied at 8 am , just as the work day starts here. i do this in particular because my cleaning crew comes in at 8 and they buzz around each desk doing their thing. most of them don’t know that i understand thai so i use them as a test group. thai ladies are very sensitive to scent so it is not unusual to hear “Maen” or “Hom” meaning something stinks or mmm smell good if i have just sprayed on a phero product.

No reactions from the cleaning crew, 3 ladies. no comments amongst themselves in thai regarding scent or more specifically phero related comments.

i’m a bit puzzled by this lack of reaction to the scent of MX276 as this one is my favorite Ammo so far, much more subtle than straight up Ammo, i find myself sniffing the elbow application points pretty frequently.

i didnt get a Hom out of anyone yet but it is only 9am now so plenty of day left to test…

**MX276

Day 3-**Apart from a single “mmm hom” yesterday, i haven’t had any comments either positive or negative regarding the scent of MX276, but i think so far it is my personal favorite, scent wise. pheromone wise i have not noticed any particular reactions or actions that can be directly attributed to this one.

Today have a meeting with a very important client, situations like this typically call for A314 and since i haven’t figured out MX276 at up to 3 sprays, i am going to combo MX276 at 3 full sprays from the To Go with 2 drops A314.

Day 4- Combo’d today. house hunting was the only responsibility on the plate, but the adventure starts at the optical shop.

A314-2 drops total. 1 drop shared between each inside forearm. 1 drop shared around neck.

Instant Shine-5 full sprays from 30ml bottle, over each A314 app. and also 2 total to chest and throat.

MX276-3 full sprays. 1/2 over each A314 and IS app. point

casual sunday afternoon island dress. (shorts, baseball jersey and flip flops and oakleys lol)

Optical shop for contacts was my first stop. i’ve been slowly working on this one for a bit now. fantastically hot, opticians here all wear the same type of uniform regardless of brand, a mid thigh skirt and blouse with jacket. they are fucking hot. anyway, this one is married and i have two live ins already with a baby due in two months so i haven’t put much energy into her but i do want the conversion at some point so , while i haven’t used Turn Up The Heat around her, that is basically what i have been doing for the last few months without it.

arrived in her office about 30 minutes after applying. took the car (air con) so i didn’t sweat it away on the motorbike.

she knows me pretty well already, we greet each other in thai and english and by name each time so nothing unusual there.

she has never touched me (apart from eye exam) before today.

after i walked in and past the other employee obstacles to greet her, we walked to her desk together (i took the lead) but she stayed on my side with me this time instead of going around. she then rested her hand on my forearm, looked me square in the eyes and said that she’d been expecting me. this was apparent since i had stopped in late last night and told that they didn’t have my prescription but they would have once the manager (my target) showed up for work this morning.

what was unusual , apart from the prolonged (20-30) second physical contact that she initiated, was that after we chatted for several minutes while i was paying and being given change, she handed me the bag containing my lenses and eye drops and looking right at her, i put my sunglasses on while thanking her and right as i start to turn to leave, she starts going on about fixing her air conditioner.

i don’t know about you guys but if i am talking face to face with someone and they tell me "thank you " while putting on their sunglasses and holding the purchased goods in their hands, i am going to have to accept that they are on their way out and the conversation is over.

maybe she wanted me to stay this time?

i see her and talk to her once per week. as i said earlier, i’ve been very casual with this one in spite of her hotness. treat a ten like a five and a five like a ten.

so the next five minutes were rather unusual, since they involved a conversation initiated by her and covering her problems with getting the local gov’t office to come out and add an individual electric box for her office air con as opposed to the communal one in place at the moment.

if i wasn’t the spitting image of a farang and she the quintissential embodiement of thai hottitude with her mesmerizing smile and neatly pressed uniform with her long black hair all tied up into a pretzel held together with some exotic teak ornament, it would have seemed appropriate for me to tell her with a wink and a smile, “i know people here, maybe i can speak with them for you”

she understood what was implied and got a genuine laugh out of it, touching my arm again.

now, my girlfriends are waiting around the corner in the car to go house hunting so i politely excused myself, telling her that if her air con is not fixed the next time i come back, we will go across the street into the shopping mall where it is nice and cool and we can have a drink and a chat.

she followed me to the door (leaving me thankful that i parked around the corner) and i was left to thought as i walked back to the car.

i’m still not sure about MX276 from the phero perspective. the scent is officially my favorite of the ammo line (that only includes Ammo and MX275 in addition to the 276 here) but as i have a several month rapport with this woman, the touching, initiating conversation after obvious exit clues and following to the door would have to go to the A314 or IS.

One other interesting interaction today during a reasonable time span for this combo. I had something for a casual acquaintance “friend” of mine in my car. he does (or tries to do) the same thing i do, in addition to half a dozen other things he tries to do. we’ve had business dealings together and quite a few times have socialized in the same group out at clubs etc.

he happened to live very near to where i was house hunting. i call him when i am in the area, he tells me how busy he is, asks me “what can i do for you” etc. so basically on the phone he was definitely giving me the impression that he was busy/working/superior.

that changed a bit when i met with him.

he lives on the beach and that happens to be exactly what i was looking for so while i had an opportunity to chat with him a bit on the house pretext, i kept him on his own porch and out of the wind. within about 5 minutes, this same guy that had just been busy and “what can i do for you” on the phone to me, was now calling people on my behalf and asking his girlfriend to come out and bring drinks to me and my girls.

some of that, in some circumstances can be classified as people just trying to be sociable and friendly. i am leaning towards A314 and IS.
apart from my girls telling me how nice these MX’s smell, i am still trying to figure out what they are made of. 276 is my favorite for scent intensity and duration, i still have 5 more to go.

Wow i like the style of your log. Captures me right in to it. I think the A314 did helped you out which was a great addition on your part. I myself will try that one out once i receive my order but am tempted to rush with the mixing. Hoping to get to it after i have tested the other products one at a time. Great observations.

thanks man. i hope you get some quality results with your own testing and i hope you share the results either way so we all can learn from them.

underwhelming thus far. the scent is great but i’ve just read that p74 is the molecule behind this test pack and either i need significantly higher amounts for a pheromonal type effect, asians don’t pick up on it, or ???

i live in a place where it is very easy to get unintentional unscripted feedback. thais think all farang cannot spea thai so they chatter on and on about everything without the slightest fear that they will be understood.

each day of testing so far has led to one “mmmm hom” (mmm smells good)

**MX277-

Day 1-3 full sprays **(the previous two have not proven to be effective for me at generating any response at 1 or 2 full sprays, starting this MX with 3)

1/2 to L&R side of neck
1 full spray inside each elbow

kind of bummed to arrive at the office and spend the first hour here with no other staff present. to be continued…

Josef with p74 i hear it works great with mixing it with another product or combo. Thats what I have read in numerous journal reports. When tried by it’s self the results were not that drastic as with other products. You should give that a try.

thanks for adding that Lukester, my own testing with 275,276 and 277 has led me to the same conclusion however i am still trying to figure out what the benefit of p74 is in this equation.

**MX277-

Day 2-**Four sprays from the To Go.

To Go bottles in this test pack are not very efficient. i am continually getting drips, leaks and partial sprays.

3 full sprays around neck and one full spray shared between inside of arms.

nice scent again but absolutely nothing out of the ordinary here. i don’t know if i am testing a cologne or a pheromone product, or both.

**Day 3-**Growing bored of simply testing a fragrance. i have not observed any difference in me or others with this p74.

1 drop of A314 (because i have faith in that one) and 4 full sprays of MX277.

only one (in?)significant interaction during the day where pheromones may have played a roll, and that was probably entirely due to the 1 drop of A314 rather than this test mix.

new client, showing thai-farang couple houses for rent/sale, language barrier between the three of us as he has heavy scottish accent, she is thai and i am american. was very easy to communicate with them however, they were in a good mood and excited about moving here. closed the deal. i attribute it more to A314 than this test mix since A314 has pulled people in like this before and i have no idea what this p74 is supposed to do, i can’t even guess about what it has done.

finished with 277, have a few sprays left but like each of the other ammo test mixes i have, it will sit on the shelf until i’m bored (and possibly finished with every other product i have)

**MX 278-

Day 1-**Four full sprays. I wouldn’t normally start with this much any time i am testing something new but with no discernable results/effects from any of the previous ammo test pack series, i think i can gamble with this one.

45 minutes after application, i cannot even pick up the slightest hint of cologne scent. either this stuff makes you forget or it simply disappears.

endeavor to persevere. i am adding this because i just made the impossible, possible.

for those of you who don’t understand thai culture, buying a product from a thai and then having to return it for a refund is an exercise in futility. receipt or not, a sale is a sale and only the largest international dept stores will consider a refund/exchange and that is only after a background check, hassle, an hour to reconsider, frowning, hand wringing etc.

anyway, i bought a toaster oven two days ago for my new house and found that each time i tried to use it that the upper heating element would put out a thick cloud of acrid smoke. obviously not working properly and wouldn’t consider eating anything that came out of that oven.

back to the store i go, this time i added 1 full spray of MX278 to the back of my hand (and then shared it between the two) because i knew i would be standing at a high counter opposite two or three “customer service” girls.

i did not have my receipt.

worst possible scenario ever. if you can imagine the amount of trouble just to get a refund or exchange when you do have a receipt, imagine my position now.

whether it was the MX278 or my dazzling smile and good looks combined with my assurance that i purchased it there just two days previously at precisely 9:15 am in the express check out line along with a bbq grill, i’ll never know. what i do know is that i walked out of there with a full refund (since they didn’t have any more of the same or different toaster ovens in stock).

hm, my accountant (who happens to be the only other person in my office today) just returned from a shopping trip and sat down at her desk for about thirty minutes.

she just now went into the back room and grabbed a can of air freshener and unceremoniously sprayed several times into our shared office space.

i have no idea whether this is due to the accumulated MX278 or perhaps something on her end.

just had an interesting experience with mx279.

backstory is i’ve had my eyes on this one particular thai sales lady for a few months now, she has to be one of the hottest women i’ve ever seen in my life and she comes into my office once a month or so with new promotional materials. i’ve never had a chance to either speak with her outside of my crowded office or to even suggest that we go somewhere, and since i have no idea when or even what days she might come by, i’ve never been pheromonally prepared for the event.

today was a bit different. i saw her drive up and knew that she would be coming in here and while i only had on my office standard 1 drop A314 split between both sides of rib cage i did have all of the bottles of the ammo test pack that had been relegated to my office drawer.

one quick spray of what turned out to be mx279 (i had no time so just grabbed the first one i could) and she was in the office.

we always have had nice general chats but never anything special that would lead me to the promised land. this time we chatted for a few minutes before she asked if i wanted to go for a drive with her out to see the property. duh.

long story short, we drive and chat, see the property and end up having lunch together. during lunch she tells me that she has never taken anyone to see the land before. we talk about everything from ages to babies to food and travel and everything in between.

she insisted on buying lunch but i of course refused and ended up paying, she said she would like to return the favor by taking me out to some clubs one of these nights.

i think i would like that.