Ammo x2 smell of soup and sheets? MX297?

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hello everyone
So it has been a week and half since i received my first order of beginners kit. I guess they upgraded some of the pheros in the kit, and now I have ammo x2, instant openness x2, and instant shine x2. i have experimented with these 3, into club scenes and social events, and to say, i have only received negative reactions.

In club scene, basically the girls did not notice me, I was wearing 2 spray of instant openness, 1 spray of instant shine and 2 spray of Ammo x2.

the same thing happened on a gathering.

I also got compliments once about i smell good, but than the girl said i smell like clean sheets :roll_eyes: and soup. :confused:

so i said, F it. and I was going running today with a friend (girl), and I put on 1 spray instant openness and 1.5 spray mx297. it was a mixed unknown encounter, she was talky allot, but again, she is usually talky. So i guess my question is.

What is MX297 exactly supposed to do, and how should i wear it best?

I tried starting ammo alone, and together with 1 spray of shine or openness, I usually got chatty and talked with people around me, but eventually after 15mins everyone starts ignoring me (like I am not even there). this has almost happened in all the incidents that i have been wearing one of the pheros, (let it be A314 spray, IG, IS, IO, AMMO, or a mix of them).

please help and advice.

Thanks

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Maybe 2 sprays of 2X Ammo is too much for you, especially if you’re 25.

Sheets and soup? It’s the first time I hear that one (lol).

Also, please specify the strength of your IO and IS (1X, 2X…?).

MX297 is best used in parties, clubs to go out dancing, things like that. It gives a live of the party vibe.

Like we always say, it’s indeed always best to use each product solo first, find your sweet spot for each and then proceed to mixing. Otherwise, things will be harder to tune.

Everyone ignoring you is either ghosting (due to overdose), people really not interested (it happens, even with mones) or not playing the part. If you cover yourself in Ammo, but act as the shy guy, barely talking to anyone or staring at the floor, girls will not react to your mones and pick it up as conflicting signals and will ignore it.

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I am thinking the same thing with the Ammo that 2X may be a little much. I would start with 1 spray and see what you get. I am 36 and I can usually only use 3 sprays 1X Ammo so I know you being 25 that 2 sprays 2X may be a little much I would try 1 spray and see what you get with it.

Now with my situation it may be possible that the scent is overbearing and not just the pheromone content as Ammo Scent can be pretty strong.

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My first reaction to your post is: congrats.

Atleast one thing is clear, mones are working for you. Although negative effects.
May it be ghosting effect or chattier effects.

What i think is you should start testing solo. With 1 spray to start. First get the results of individual product then go for more than 1 products.

Start with IS alone for 3 days a week . Get a hold of effects. Then go for 2nd products. either keep a note of effects or start your own journal.

A314 and IO seems to be harsh with you. Ammo 1 dose may help you.

Keep posting and take care

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I agree with the guys here. You got ghosted because your Ammo is too strong. At your age, you’re producing lots of androstenone already. Using 2x is overkill and the women around you are think you some kind of horn dog on a prowl.

I’m 48, and I think 2x is too strong for me. I got ghosted when I used 2 sprays of 2x. A single spray was tolerable, but only if I added P96. I ran out of Ammo, so I got another togo bottle at regular strength. I’m going to try it out at 1 spray to see what I get.

Here’s an experiment. Use only IO and/or IShine. Start with that and see how long you can sustain conversations with women. If you’re still getting ghosted after 15 minutes, you may need to look at your game, as Conjurator suggested.

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Thank you for the reaponse. The IS and IO i recieved are also x2.

My game is okish… i talk, smile and am a happy pers9n generally with/without mones. But yes, no matter how much i use, keep getting ghosted. Is it probably because of the andrestanon? Also in the clubs, i basically did not get any IOI’s when i was wearing ammo and IO last few nights.

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Try half a spray Ammo 2X, solo, a few times and report :slight_smile:.

There are also ladies who are intolerant to none but if you got ghosted by many, you can’t possible that “lucky”.

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Try using only IO and IShine without Ammo. If your game is on, you should get some IOI with IO and IShine. If not, decreasing Ammo may or may not help. If the women you’re after are in their early 20s, this might also explain the ghosting with Ammo. Try adding P130 in this case, or switch to Summer Ammo.

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I’m wondering if the OP means - Soap and sheets?

Which is a fairly good description of the “clean” scent of Ammo’s FF21, which often gets compared to laundry products.

FF21 is a very young and US-oriented scent. If that doesn’t suit you, maybe consider the more adult/euro-centric World Edition or FF22 scent. Its also less strong compared to FF21, so more widely usable overall.

2 sprays 2x could be overkill on a 25yr old around younger women, even with the extra moderation of IO and IS. Going down a bit might well help.

IO/MX297 - yes I woud expect talk - and lots of it. This is an entirely social mix.

MX297 itself is a highly social and engaging mix, best suited to times when you are having a lot of fun and can make it count that way. Personally I would only add a sexual like TUTH, as it gives sexual impact but without detracting from 297’s fun/social properties much. Ammo is also usable but I feel it detracts more from the 297 vibe. MX297 is a great mix on its own and you can easily mess it up by adding too many other products.

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Soap! Yes, that would make much more sense indeed!

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Thank you! yes, I mean SOAP*** sorry, and I guess I need to get hang of the Ammo. I really wanted to get the Ammo 1x (as I think it has a different scent and much fresher and is more approachable), but they have bumpted it to 2x.

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Also guys,
I received two P132 togo bottles with my purchase, and I really do not know what is it used for and what is it. I couldnt find much info when i searched the forum.

I am afraid to use it. lol

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P132 is what we refer to as a putative molecule. These are more experimental products. Androtics will not tell you much about these because they are intended to be used in blind testing by voluntary users. Meaning, you try it, you see what happens and you report about it at this adress reportinguser@androtics.com. You check what happens with different number of sprays, etc. But hey, the product did not cost you anything, and is worth like 28$ in the store. So you have nothing to lose.

I bought P132 on my last order. It’s on my to-try list :slight_smile:.

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No - Standard Ammo has the same scent in both 1x and 2x strengths - FF21.
Same for World Edition Ammo and its FF22 scent.

Summer Ammo only comes in 1x formula but it has two extra pheros in the mix and its own Blue Summer (FF23) scent, which is IMO the best of the Ammo scents. You can get Ammo itself in FF23 by a custom order but I suggest that you don’t do that when starting out, as its expensive, carries no warranty and you don’t have your best dose yet.

Very generally, 2x products are not advised for under 30s starting out, unless you are into much older women who tend to respond better to stronger/more overt phero signatures. However, once you have found your dose/sweet spot with the 1x product and if the number of sprays work out, going-up to 2x can be a good economy/scent control measure.

1 spray 2x on a 25yr old guy does not seem an unreasonable dose to me but with a bit of deft fingering, you can get smaller than one spray quantities out of the Ammo sprayer. just the accuracy isn’t brilliant.

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I just put on 2 spray of MX297 - and holy Sh*t, all my body is shakin, i kindda have a complex feeling that i can not explain, uh… oh by the, i also smoked about 2 hrs ago, so maybe that has something todo with it? mmmm

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I think you need to go-dance now! Exactly the environment that MX297 excels in. :smiley:

And yes, the self effects of some mones can be compounded by a good smoke (or other drugs) but you should adjust after a few exposures - Enjoy it whilst you can!

If you need it to stop, simply wash your app points well with hot/soapy water and have a little quality food and non alcoholic drink - this helps replenish your bodys electrolytes, which can be slightly unbalanced by some mones - socials in particular.

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The first time you use a particular product, your body can react in a weird way, as if saying WTF. I remember the first time I used TUTH, I felt like a fricking gorilla, lol… The second time it was already a different experience from a physiologic point of view and I never got this again ever since.

You can retry MX297 tomorrow to see if you get this sub-effect again. It should be fine.

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Gorilla? :smiley: I had the “Mike Tyson” feeling when I was high on P75… That was some hell of a shopping experience (freaked even me out).

But yes, trying out a new unknown mixture, especially in a high dosage for the first time can be a real funny experience sometimes. I had moments of total drowzyness, a pumped up mike tyson, duke nukem persona, james bond, army soldier… just to name a few :wink: