Question about a certain mix

Has anyone tried to mix ammunition with instant gentlemen? If so, can you post some results/personal experience/opinions on it? Or maybe point be in a right direction to find such information here? Still new here :slight_smile:

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I haven’t used this combo much, because I haven’t had Ammo very long (IG has been a personal favorite for a while, but now I’m more into MX297), but it seems to work pretty well for me. It does seem to target women younger (early- mid 20s) than I am actively interested in – but hey, it’s a nice ego boost, and I’m more interested in a fun social time than a relationship or one night stand at the moment (which is why I didn’t get Ammo sooner, but I’ve found that 1 spray is also a nice adjunct in other situations aside from “hooking up”)

Thanks for responding vanadium, I’m glad it works for you, personally I bought these products out of curiosity and so far haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary from other women, that’s most likely because I’m not looking for it(I have a SO). However my gf told me ammo smells woodsy mixed in with some urine .___. idk what to do about that lol

This is an excellent daytime mix IME.

Social/sexy/smart/engaging but not at all overpowering/offputting and very suitable for a wide range of situations. I don’t wear it that often but when I do, I always end-up wondering why I don’t wear it more. Too many pheros to choose from I suppose! :smiley:

It can also benefit greatly from some IS and/or P75. :slight_smile:

Well, you do have to play into it to see the full effects (that comes with time) but it’s really easy to test the effects without doing anything that would upset your SO.

Here’s an example of something I did this week (with MX297 + Ammo, but it would have worked just as well with IG + Ammo):

My group was participating in an event at a local bar. It was suggested that I gather up people for a certain activity. I went into the main barroom, shouted out the invitation, and two attractive women, mid-late 20s, who were standing very close to me immediately joined up. The people seated at tables (out of phero range) barely pricked an ear (a tactical error: I should have gone table to table, but I was tired and didn’t think of that). We introduced ourselves, and handshakes turned into hugs.

I said “follow me” and went to check the other rooms. They giggled and said "Yup, we’ll follow you (I can’t describe the tone, but it was more than a simple acknowledgement), so I said over my shoulder, “Good, because I like being followed by beautiful women”. They lit up at that off-the-cuff (but sincere) compliment, and stood slightly stunned for a moment, like I’d given them tiaras, before scampering after me, giggling and asking “Should we solicit for you?”

I thought that was a funny choice of words, so I joked “I don’t know if I should ask you ladies to solicit for me. I’m not your pimp after all” – a slightly risky wisecrack, but I’d read them correctly, and they responded as I expected, with giggles and closeness.

I continued to stand in the middle of each room and shout an invitation to join us, with the same lack of response. (As I said, it was a tactical mistake). They went table to table, bringing back back a half dozen girls, putting an arm around me as they introduced each one, as if to indicate possessiveness, but with a clear demeanor of seeking my approval for their “finds” (almost as if I were their pimp – but don’t get me wrong: they were very sweet)

We all headed off, laughing and flirting, and were joined by a few others. Things were going great, but I got called away to deal with something. “My” two original girls left soon after I did, though the rest of the group was still there enjoying themselves an hour later. I guess the activity wasn’t what interested them.

I wouldn’t call this a “hit” (I’m picky about that), nor would it have been terribly unusual for me without pheros, but pheros made it reliable. I knew the reaction I’d get (despite being rather tired) and could relax into it and let it play out with rather little effort. Pheros can help you set a direction and assure consistency.

What kind of situations are you testing in? While my ex had a consistent strong reaction over a span of over a decade to one of the few pheros we had back in the day, you may not see the full range of reactions inside a relationship (My ex would act pleasant but unremarkable for hours then suddenly turn “extremely frisky”)

I really do like IG. It also helped me get a rein on my slightly outlandish joking side, and actually set me up perfectly to make best use of MX297 months later (MX 297 is a more outrageous social/alpha mix – not beta as some think. You just have to be congruent with it to stay alpha. I’m used to being wacky and alpha at the same time) A314 is great for status, but I have enough of that already. Too much isn’t fun.

I’d spent months with IG and the IG Variant Test Pack so I easily felt the distinct aura Ammo added. It’s a very easy combo to take in any direction (unlike my tests with IG+TUTH) even if I don’t choose to take full advantage of the opportunities it opens.

I see mobo posted while I was typing. I agree with him on IS. I wear that in every situation, partly because I’m 50-ish (as he is), but anyone can benefit from little shine

Thanks for the response mobocaster. With this combo have you ever gotten bad responses with smell? Specifically with ammo? Multiple individuals have told me it smells like pee and that’s pretty annoying. =

Is this with the standard Ammo? I normally use World Edition - FF22 scent.

The pissy smell is very likely the Androstenone in Ammo and TBH, there isn’t a great deal you can do about it if someone is unduly sensitive to it - They will smell it through even the most robust covers after a fairly short time. IME its only a few who get it badly but if its the few you are most interested-in, its infuriating. Swapping oout components till you see what exactly gets them, then adjusting your mixes to suit is annoying but often the onlly way but the pissy smell is almost certainly None. :frowning:

How and where are you applying it and how long before they start complaining? IME applying straight after a bath/shower can speed the emergence of the smell due to the greater skin circulation/warmth, so waiting a little while till you cool down can help. Also using a little lotion to barrier the skin but its not so effective with sprays as oils. If the environment is hot/sticky, using app points less prone to sweat/breakdown and easier to wash/replenish when it sets-in can help, or even moving to a different scent that might confuse it better to their noses.

Also do your best to avoid overspray on hair and clothing - this can lead to buildup/smell problems hanging over from previous applications as they can bind strongly and be difficult to shift - esp hair/natural fibers.

The regular version, standard ammo. I usually spray ammo on my wrists or forearms, and my gf complained instantly even though it was about 3 hours later after the initial application, For the past couple of days I have been playing around with my moneys lol I believe I noticed some things, not to sure, I need to learn all of the terminology and IOI. Going to start a journal.

In a warm/humid/sweaty environment, yes you could be getting the None stink coming through by three hours with Ammo. 3-4 hrs would be my freshen-up/topup time in a club or similar.

Maybe try a different app point like te neck/throat and barrier the skin on any app point with a thin application of a good quality hand lotion. Let it settle into the skin for a few minutes before spraying - That should help slow breakdown a bit - maybe buy you another hour or-so. There is a slight penalty in diffusion range but with a GF, that should not be a great problem.

Also, if she is your primary subject, try applying closer to meeting her - again this could give you more time before the scent becomes apparent and TBH, if you are hitting the spot in all other attractive ways,she may not mind at all - I can’t say how many women have told me that they actually find a bit of “manly stink” under a good cologne a great turn-on. Just don’t let it get to the stale/unwashed/“what died” level or it will repel everyone! :smiley:

And if that fails, then yes it is maybe time to explore non-None alternatives like P75. AD’s warranty is good for all consumer line products.

Thanks for the advice ill give that a shot. Also because she lives in the city I only had one chance to try ammo with her. I woke up that day, took a shower and applied ammo under my shirt around 9am. Then (without showering because of lack of time) at 5 pm I sprayed under my shirt again and ran to catch the bus heading to the city. The bus ride was about 2h and then it takes about 45mins by train from where I am dropped off, and on top of that I had a sweater on(even though it was around 70 degrees), so I’m thinking that with those conditions, some nasty smells occurred haha, praying that when I see her again everything will be just fine.

OK, in that situation, at very least I would have tried to give my original app points a quick wash to try and shift the morning residue - which would have been a bit ripe by 5pm and wouldn’t be covered for long by a topup

Also, how old are you? Ammo under clothing isn’t great at any age - its a balanced mix that needs to be out where it can diffuse. Applying under a shirt is a tactic for very young guys (eg under 20) using very overt products like TUTH or IJ around similarly young women. Then there is the added possibility of buildup/smell problems from it being caught in the fibres as well. An open app point is better all round here and much more easy to freshen-up. :slight_smile:

I’m 19 turning 20 next may. I normally wear it on my wrists and forearm because I always roll up my sleeves, and I’m not to sure why I put it under my shirt, I never did that since, but you say its good for me? lol

No, its not good - Ammo is a well balanced product that is fine for open application at your age and fairly hard to OD on - slowing its diffusion is only going to reduce its impact. You would only need to consider applying under clothing with much more overt/unbalanced Androstenone products like TUTH or IJ - Although even then, your situation would be a very important factor as even very overt pheros become much more tasty to young women in raunchy/uninhibited environments like clubs and parties.

I’d also suggest you get at least some of your application up around your neck/throat - Not only is it amongst the best areas for diffusion, it also seems to key-in with your natural signature much better and you want the sexual impact to build as you get physically closer. Socials are fine on arms/wrists though - think how a sexual interaction builds. :slight_smile: