ok so everytime I apply ammo I usually apply 2 hits to my chest followed by one spray of x2shine and sometimes a hit or two of x1 openness, and the normal is I get really awkward, and everything I do seems to creep people out.. and in every circle I’m in I always have to like, yell to be heard and I’m always shut out pretty quickly.. and I just don’t understand it?? I’ve used IJ with 2 hits of x2 shine and that was it and I was the man! everyone liked me but ammo… just seems awkward to me? does anyone know what I’m talking about and can help a little? I really like the idea of ammo, basically a buffered tuth, but I just can seem to use it right? maybe I’m using it in the wrong situations?
Try starting with 1 spray of Ammo by itself. Work your way up to more sprays if you don’t feel it is working yet. It is possible that you are OD’ing with your current mix (doesn’t seem likely but everyone’s chemistry is different). It took me a while to get the hang of Ammo, also. Remember that Ammo is really meant to be a stand alone product. You might find it works better by itself.
Good luck! ![]()
Sounds to me like you’re probably over buffering the -none in AMMO, keep in mind that the -none in AMMO is already buffered with Alpha Androstenol (same as in IO) so when you add more IO it obviously buffers it even more, especially if you’re also adding IS. You probably went Beta with too many socials…
Well I would go for what snoopyace said, although I dont think you are od since you got great results with IJ , I really dont know what is the ammo congruence, but I think maybe you are not congruent with ammo, there for your phero signature and your action make people act awkward towards you ![]()
I discovered that ammo is the most congruent mone with my style, and I am doped in it.
What these guys said.
I had an old friend who had asked me, a couple years ago when I first started with pheromones, not to speak to his female friends. Apparently they had approached him and told him to tell “that creepy guy” to back off. He, being relatively naive to the ways of bros over hos, called me and told me to do so. I did. I had been using Ammo and was not used to it’s signature at all. I was projecting an image of something I was not congruent with. A guy trying to be a player is not a player. To me, Ammo projects the vibe of the player. I have found this both objectively and subjectively.
Keep in mind this was about 2 years ago. Fast forward to the last two weeks I went out again and bumped into him on the street. I was leading a pack of guys on the prowl (wearing MX328) and we were having a ridiculously fun night. He later asked me “wow, you have changed so much, you project so much confidence and enthusiasm, what caused you to change?”
I told him this: “In the beginning when you first commented, I was coming to terms with who I was. I had gotten some feedback from you and females too, but I literally had to laugh it off. I knew I was right, and felt that by continuing to push my comfort zone I would eventually start to be comfortable with who I was being and who I wanted to be. That place is where I am today.”
Whatever I was wearing did not matter (although it certainly helped build my confidence to where it is now, especially ammo) the way I was being mattered. Des, push out of your comfort zone!!!
is IJ n cttm2 a good combo??
Best way to find out: TRY IT OUT YOURSELF!!!
well.. im gonna try out at college! thats why im scared to od
Don’t be afraid to OD. Its not as bad as you might think, and usually you can just chalk it up to having a bad day. Also, thats why its recommended to start with 1 spray at a time ![]()
Infact, you shouldn’t CTTM2 should buffer IJ fine. My first(and only) run with IJ was alot of fun. I got shit-tested like crazy, but I also was cocky enough to respond well. Hell I responded incredibly sexually suggestively which is out of character for me. It was fun.
but im scared with the reaction from other ppl… like.. IJ is really strong… and most of people from college are around 15/20 “i know and speak”… thats why..
It might make young people look like a player, but not me… You need a lot more anone or couplin to project a player status… Not even TUTH projects me as a player. Maybe, something like IJ? I should add more anone, but I have been acting irriated lately…
well I wear 3x heavy ammo … strangely this goes very well with me. chemestry go figure. Its total 15mcg of ammo ![]()
it depends on the person. Like you, AMMO makes me the “brad pitt” out of all men at school ![]()
P.S. Canadian girls are pretty weirdos anyway. More creepier and kinkier, yet they judge others more
Go find American girls! ![]()
I had a asian canadian girlfriend when I was mones free ![]()
She teached me alot ![]()
That is a real good statement. How you act or talk creeps or freaks girls out more than what you spray on… well unless it is something like IJ or TUTH 5x
yea, thats what it does for me to! brad pitt totally! but it basically at 2 sprays makes me… way to forward and loud maybe 1 spray… but that doesn’t make sence a314 is my favorite product! and its like 12 mcgs of rone.. and IJ is my other fav and it’s 12mcg of none… so why would ammo, 2.5 mcgs of both have such a huge effect on me when those other two products that are alot stronger dont?..
There you go. If you start getting awkward and weird, others will creep out. When you have ammo on, you have to act, talk, stand confident. you have to act like Johnny Depp and how all women should be lucky to you have attitude. Just don’t be a douche. Carry yourself that way while being a gentleman and being nice to girls. Seems like oxymoron but it is piossible to enact…
I noticed that some guys don’t like you, when you have on AMMO. They think of you a SERIOUS threat to their targets or girls. If Brad Pitt or Orlando Bloom is talking to a girl you are crazy about, wouldn’t you want to beat his a$$?
Some asian girls dislike it a lot, I dont know why. Usually, white and latina girls really like it.
Girls might feel weird too. I mean if a victoria secret model is standing close to you with a lingerie on, wouldn’t you freak out? You would in a good way
… especially if she is really hot
I said this in the past but will say it again. Wearing ammo is equivalent to a hot girl wearing a nice make-up, high-heels and lingerie… Some guys might like it and some won’t… Most guys would at least want to bang her though
Similarly, MOST girls (except some asians) would at least consider you in that way…
Moroever, when you wear ammo, some girls might feel offended, especially very conservative church going white or asian girls from the Northeast U.S. Those girls who are not comfortable with their sexuality are not worth pursuing anyway, unless you want a serious relationship or marriage. A high anone products like AMMO are doing you a favor by help disqualifying those bimbos that wouldn’t give it up and waste your time. I am sure you - just like other 99% of the guys here - are using mones to get some action. Don’t lie
hmm, yea that is true.. now that I think of I I wasn’t really the one acting awkward.. it was them
anyways my question still stands how come ammo hits me so hard with a low dose oh none and rone when alpha and IJ which quadruple the content of rone and none dont seem to do as much?
Because someone who is sexy and cool but is not a punk is a serious threat - he can actually take your girls away… think guys like Adrian Grenier or Johhny Depp…
Also, some girls might get creeped out because suddenly find u so freaking hot, and they don;t know why they feel that way. they are probably thinking is this that same dork??? they dont want to feel attracted to u and therfore subconsciously show discontent and annyoance with their behaviours…
in contrast, someone who is a jerk isn’t a serious threat to any guy… think Tom Cruise and Charlie Sheen… while some girls might like them, those girls are losers that are not worth pursuing anyway… Those girls probably aren’t sexually attracted to jerks. They might think it is fun to play with one but not for keeps.
Also, A314 doesn’t particularly attract girls or guys sexually that much. Not going to cause much stir. Everything that is going to cause controversy, love-hate type of thing in the modern society is something that potentially arouses people sexually. Sex is what sells and drives everything…
lol almost sounds like a UD instead of an OD.
A314 is like 23 mcg of mostly Rone which gives a confident authoritarian vibe.
IJ if 15 mcg of none with some extra molecules to steer it into the jerk zone.
You’d need like 6 sprays of Ammo to equal the none if IJ, and a whole other spray to equal the rone content of a single drop of A314…and these are you favorite products.
I can only assume if they’re your favs that it’s because you’ve experienced impressive results with them. Two different kinds of confidence and power messages but confidence and power messages nonetheless. If they work for you it’s probably because you knew how to act congruent to the signal…or were just very naturally congruent. In either case people around you bought into it. Your mannerisms and your signal were congruent.
Now, here you are using roughly one third of the none you had with IJ and an even lower dosage of Rone than you get when you used A314. I’d almost be willing to bet your general behavior was the same? In addition to over buffering your none and rone, you were probably acting more alpha than your signature was letting on and people around you got a “he’s faking” vibe and didn’t take you seriously.
If you insist on Ammo, I’d say go 5 sprays or switch to 2X and do 3 sprays. Leave IO out of the equation and give yourself a shot of TuTH just keep your none higher than your nols since none obviously works well for you.