Ammunition - Don't overlook it

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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I’ve been really busy with finals and transitioning jobs so I’ve been using Ammunition simply for the convenience factor. Applying complicated mixes can be a hassle some times.

At anyrate I wore 3 Sprays of Ammunitin + 2 Sprays EST and headed to a really high-end club with some friends from school last night. I hit it off really well with two women last night - one a friend of a friend whom I never got the chance to get her number (I’ll get it from my friend later), and a girl I had a class with this semester. Lots of back and forth flirting, and following me around and what not. I woke up this morning and got a drunk dial voice mail from the girl in my class.

Lots of subtle hits from the women around the club as well, long stares with women, sometimes groups of women, light touches from women as they walked by in uncrowded areas, and women initiating dancing with me instead of vice versa (as is usally the case)

I usually prefer using simpler products since its easier to control the effects you get, but the ratios in Ammunition are really well balanced as they are. I would highly recommend this product for beginners who want to see the benefits of multi-pheromone mixes without the trickiness of building custom mixes.

The quality of the fragrance is top-notch as well. Some pheromone products smell better than others, but they all smell cheap in comparison to an actual cologne. While the fresh fragrance of Ammunition might not suit some (no fragrance suits everybody), the quality of the fragrance is up there with a designer cologne. I actually did an informal survey of the fragrance at my job this week. I had purchased a bottle of 360 Red one day, and asked a couple of the women for their opinion, and we ended polling all the women in the office and tallying the results for fun (I do work at a Market Reserach company after all). Taking this as an opportunity to test direct exposure to pheromones, I wore Ammunition the following day and asked them to sniff test that one as well. Again I asked them whether or not they liked it, and whether they preferred Ammunition or 360 Red. 16 out of 20 women liked 360 Red, while all the women liked Ammunition. Only one preferred 360 Red over Ammunition.

When I asked some of the women to sniff the Ammunition, applied to my chest and neck, some took long, deep whiffs kinda like in the Axe commercials. I hadn’t expected to see anything like that so it caught me off guard lol. One of them came back later and asked to sniff it again, which I gladly allowed.

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Wow. Now that’s impressive! lol

Great write up, I’m going to be sending my life savings to MHarris pretty soon to buy all the pheros he sells since they’re all apparently too good for my own good. lol

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Yeah for my case friends from both sexes like the scent in Ammunition.Received quite afew compliments from them when I first wore it,and most are from the girls.

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i have yet to be disappointed with any Androtics product and my Heavy Ammunition is no exception. i believe chikara from LS is a product with similar intent phero-wise, but to me it smells like a very very cheap drug store cologne and is nowhere near the quality of Ammunition. i don’t get to wear my Heavy Ammunition as much as i’d like, simply because i have a combo of sandalwood/A314 that is absolutely top notch and accomodates my very casual summer day golf course use just a little better than Ammunition, which i find more suitable for slacks/shirt/club.

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I never cared of the smell of Chikara honestly, and I never had much luck with it either. Someone on the LS forums mentioned that Chikara smells a lot like one of the products on the Axe line…that says quite a lot about the quality of the fragrance IMO. APC has a pretty decent fragrance to it, but the pheromone content is really low (.75mg) and the fragrance still isn’t of the same caliber as Ammunition.

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Great data, Sigma! Thanks for the survey. Very interesting.

Sigma, I think you have the very latest version of Ammunition, while Josef has the earliest.

The difference being that the newest Ammo has double the alpha-nol of the first, and it incorporates a small portion of several elements found in Instant Shine.

I want to add as much as I can to Ammo, while a) keeping it’s sexual and attention getting properties, and b) not violating any current patents (i.e., I can’t add A1).

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How about the 4 alternate versions of Ammunition that are available in the experimental section of the store? How are they different? Is it concentration, ratios, added or removed components, scent, or what?

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And what do you mean by EST? meo-est or estratetraenol?

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estratetraenol

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Thanks for the clarifier. I’m interested in knowing more about what Ammunition by itself is supposed to achieve. What sort of responses, etc.

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I met up a couple of friends straight after work for a friends birthday dinner tonight. I didn’t have much time to apply a more complex mix, so when we got to the club I applied 3 sprays of of ammunition in the bathroom when we got the club afterwards. As soon as a I got out one of my female friends made the comment “damn you look like a baller right now. I don’t know what it is, you just do” Mind you I had just had dinner with her not too long ago, and hadn’t heard any compliments about my appearance that day at all.

At any rate I noticed a lot of the same effects that I noticed last week, though not nearly as pronounced. EST (which I mixed with ammuntion last week) seems to enhance the effects of Ammunition, but who knows. Ammunition does seem to have an eye-catching quality to it. Women just seem to notice you. Its a lighter feeling product than A314, but its also more overtly sexual.

Those are my observations for the night. I’ll test it further and get back to you guys

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I never got mine. =*(

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Hey Sigma :slight_smile:

thanks for the feedback!
do you think EST helps with negative aspects of -None (such as dark moods, intimidation, etc.). I remember someone (A.K.A.?) describe it as a pheromone ‘chill pill’ so it should help in theory. If you can, try high doses of Ammunition (which would be ODs for you and I know you can get away with wearing more -None than me) and add EST and tell us if it diminishes the negative aspects of -None. Also if you can maybe try EST with NPA as I know that product causes aggresssion often against me when I wear it.

Visionary

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The first hour or so of using EST creates a real energetic, uplifted feeling, which turns into a relaxed, “chill pill” feeling afterwards. It does relieve tension and creates a sense of well-being. On extreme ends I’ve felt and noticed feelings apathy…I guess you could say it was kind of euphoric.

I’ve only noticed aggression while wearing none on a few occasions, and it was with extreme doses of PI and while alcohol was involved. What I usually noticed is a high level of avoidance from others. EST tends to give create an affinity for in other people, so in theory it should help buffer some of the negative effects of none. I’ve lowered none use significantly recently, so I haven’t had a chance to directly experiment with that. I’ll try high doses of PI with EST to test the effects…I think that will produced more controlled results than high doses of Ammunition, which has a lot of different things going on with it.

EST works really well at counter-acting the negative aspects of A1 though, without diminishing the benefits. I wore a high amount of A1 with EST (straight EST+A1 mix) to work one day, and the two women working next to would talk excessively about themselves throughout the day, even without the presence of nol.

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Hey Sigma thanks for the detailed reponse!

I would LOVE to see what EST does with high doses of -None. In its initial hour-long (more or less) ‘energetic, uplifting phase’ and in its ‘chill pill phase’ afterward could it not decrease the dark vibe that -None can provide? If EST is really good at counterring A1-induced depression maybe it could be good at counterring -None problems too. I do remember a lot of successful posts about combining Realm for Men with -Nol and -None products on the LS forum and indeed Androtics EST is much stronger than what was in Realm.

Please do try high doses of PI with EST and tell us what happens. Just do not try it in important situations (like with work) as there is no guarantee it will work. Also, you might have to bring some -Nol along just in case it doesn’t work and you are stuck there with a massive PI OD!

Visionary

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i would like to comment on ammo. it work real good. i had gals sniffing me all nite long at my neck with just 1 spray. and ifm it is really really good.

ammo- i usally put them in a small atomizer(i own 6 for my own mixture) and 1 spray before i enter clubs and 2 spray if it quite smokey.

IFM- is a really good stuff. i almost finish 1/2 the bottle. guess wat i did? 6-7 spray of ifm all over. yeah i had a really bad headache but it worth it! definteny worth the headache! :stuck_out_tongue: i am still tinking of applying ifm 1st then layer with EST or the other way round. i am afriad that apply EST would cover or mix the IFM into something wrong. or IFM would cover EST and void the effect of EST.

i notice something interesting, as from ls webbie i alway learn that i apply aa314 1st as a base. so my usual mix would be, in order, aa314 1 drop btw 2 ears, 1 drop on forearm/body,5inch scented soe on both wrist and rubbed togeter well, 1 drop of ae on both wrist rubbed in well. then 2-3 spray of EST, 6-7 spray of IFM, 2-3 spray of IO, 3-5 spray of IS.

now if i remove aa314 and apply it after 6-7 spray of ifm, before 3-5 spray of IS i notice greater hits and better results.

any one had similar results applying aa314 last using it to cover the rest of the mones? try it, it good!

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I used to wear men’s realm to counter-act the negative effects of chemset A1 back in the day, and had a lot of good results with it. I hadn’t noticed any evidence of the EST in realm ‘covering’ the A1, but it should be noted that the EST offered here is much, much more concentrated than whats offered in realm.

I wore EST+IFM+IH+IS (3 sprays each) and took an old female friend out for dinner last night. She seemed very open and intrigued throughout the conversation, and oddly enough, she seemed more interested in what I had to say…usually when I take a female friend out its the other way around lol.

I picked up the check after she reminded me that she had some things to take care of afterwards. She told me this when I first asked her to have dinner with me, and it took a little bit of persistence to get her out. After we left the restaurant, however, we sat in the parking lot talking for an additional 20 minutes.

I’m not too sure what the standalone effects of IFM are supposed to be since I rushed into mixing with it, but I didn’t see any diminished effects by combining EST and IFM.

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I have been using the newest version (bought it in the last two weeks) of Ammunition and am really pleased with the results. It seems to create a very communicative happy vibe environment with a slight sexual edge. I suspect it has some IO and maybe IO, IS none. The first time I wore it this week was at a strip club. I used ten sprays (with 4 spray IS and 4 spray IO) and all of the reactions were very positive. I new to the club and treated by everyone like I was a regular with lots of friendly chatting and a slight sexual edge. Wore 3 sprays on the plane yesterday and the buy accoss from me chatted up a storm (unintiated by me). Today I wore three sprays to my hairdressers and felt a slight sexual edge as I heard her life story. She was very chatting and giving me all kinds of personal information.

I’m going to continue to test this product. I’m curious if its possible to OD (at this point I don’t think so) and will test higher amounts. I’ve certainly experienced aggression and wierd vibes from SOE/NPA and AE and want to see how Ammunition compares.

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oddly enough, mine doesnt smell like cologne. is there an unscented version? not seeing any hits at all. I think CTTM smells better and is a much better communication product.

I keeps it honest.

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Ammunition isn’t aimed at communication from what I understand… it’s aimed at getting attention and hinting at sexual stuff. That CTTM is a better communication product is hands down obvious, in my experience.