Androstadienone smells awful and bitter to my gf: how do you get around the smell?

There are so many factors… some days ya feel like a nut, some days ya don’t

Lunar phase, atmospheric pressure, ambient temperature, humidity, ions (anybody remeber IONs?) … dietary supplements… some days you’re grooving on the hot beam, other days sex is about as exciting as sweeping dust bunnies from under the bed…

LOL! Tacitus :slight_smile:

I’ve never returned anything to LS (or Androtics for that matter) so I don’t know. I did have a problem with a leaky Impi bottle that I asked about on their forum but got no response. I got busy (okay…lazy) and didn’t persue it. Was the only real problem I had had with any of their products except for the utter failure of Perception to do anything, but I just add that to my list of life lessons.

Your best option is probably to call them about returns proceedures. If they won’t take the stuff back you may be able to sell it off here as some of us still like to play with all the various products.

okay will do RBT

Plus in the interest of scintific inquirey let’s all go sniff Jasmin.

Hehehe yeah..u’ll be asking for taste tests too later on :slight_smile:

run jasmin, run!
they are high sniffin 'mones and your next!!! :stuck_out_tongue:
that or in the best interest of the company you ought to comply…:open_mouth:

you’d better do some runnin’ yerself Lor. You’re the first on my sniffee list.

i dont run :open_mouth:
you werent counting on that , :smiley:

also, i definately got to get me whatever it is you two are sniffin’ now,lol. androstedienone is not in my arsenal unless its a player in TUTH

100% sure, pre-conversion. It smells tremendously right out of the bottle, dry, synthesized personally by one of the world’s best androgen chemists.

We can provide some of the beautiful A1 crystal dry in a wide mouth vial, so you can “smell for yourself”.

It’s possible that you have an A1 related anosmia. nfs seems to be anosmic, while his girlfriend obviously isn’t.

This could point out brain differences. Maybe the fact that I can smell A1 so well makes me gay? :slight_smile:

Actually, I’ve gotten the depression effects from A1 more than most. If anything, I’d say that my reaction to A1 shows me to be biologically heterosexual. (remember the studies that showed women and gay men responding best to A1)

Organic brain-structure related sexual preferences aside, it would be interesting to look for a pattern of those who can smell A1 vs. those who feel depressed upon exposure. Maybe these attributes flip flop.

nfs, how does A1 make you feel? Do you even notice a difference?

How about everyone else here? How does A1 make you feel, and can you smell it easily?

Good, you’re easy to catch then :wink:

NFS

MHarris,

A1 doesn’t make me feel any different. I’ve followed advise and I normally put it on the back of my neck, or back of my shirt. I never spray it the frontside. Usually about 2.5 mcg , 3 sprays in total. Nuthin’. Maybe the Shine and A314’s working to counteract the depression? …

NFS

Yep you are right,IS and A314 is definitely useful in countering the depression A1 has.

Interesting. You can’t smell it, and it doesn’t affect you. If I understand correctly, Tacitus can’t smell it either, and he isn’t adversely affected.

On the other hand, I can smell it, and it often does my head in for an hour or so. It can be quite dramatic. I turn inward.

That’s one (admittedly small) bit of empirical counterevidence against Erox/HPSI’s insistence that A1 is processed exclusively by the VNO, and not the olfactory pathways (i.e., the same receptors you smell with).

I can’t smell A1 either but the dark mood affects me greatly (sky is falling!). I have 3 bottles of A1, each from different sources (including AR), all of them give varying degrees of depression on self, including the good-effects on females.

A1 from Androtics seem to give similar good effects to females, but with less intensity of depression to self, when compared to others. I did not fight as hard when wearing A1 from Androtics. Best to use A1 in alcohol-spray format to increase diffusion & reduce the time it stays on the skin. Avoid chemset A1.

One source of A1 I own gives depression lasting half a day, while another lasts 1-2 days (crushed & doom!). However, all 3 bottles exhibit limited “window time” with females i.e. 2nd encounter with the same female is not as thrilling (on the same day). Best to score within the hour with A1! For some reasons, A1 + ANOL seems to work very well on females who are responsive to either. OTOH, females I’ve observed to be responsive to TEnone is not thrilled with A1. Would appreciate female members’ opinion on this aspect, thanks.

A1 is not something I would wear often, unless I’m rewarded at the end of it :smiley: EST is a much better choice for magnetic effects with females.

BTW, @NFS, what blood type are you? I’m O.

@nfs
Could it be possible your GF is sensitive to the smell of alcohol (on skin)? Do you have a bottle of Perfumer’s Alcohol to try as placebo?

i2w

MHarris,

That’s interesting, what you said. But here’s something to mess with your head even more!

My gf smells all mones except Rone. SHe picks up on dienone, none, nol. She thinks it stinks, but the mones have no effect on her. She doesn’t know the smell comes from the mones,…remember that . I’ve told her the smell was from EO’s.

I’ve tried tons of stuff and I think the only thing that ever effected her was AE. Made her wet really fast. Other than that, nothing.

itwow, hmm good question. I’ll get back to you on my blood type. I can’t remember dude :slight_smile:

NFS

I forgot to mention : When I was wearing 30-50 mcg A1, my own younger sister was positively affected as well. I was too depressed to remember!

A1 could really turn the tables on women who were not attracted to the wearer previously. If only the depression isn’t that overwhelming!

i2w

i debate that often.
as a woman, if i am not attracted to you, it will never happen. i can assure you. if there is attraction, but not enough to make me jump you, you have a chance with A1 (or Ammo,LOL)
i do very much agree if there is nuetrality or slight attraction, IFM or A1 is gold in your pocket (or are you just happy to see me?).
i had one VERY bizarre instance of dating this one guy i liked alot but the attraction level was a 3 out of 10. i wore IFM earlier that day for my own upliftment,forgot about it, and he reaped the benefits. that screwed up my theory that the target need wear the 'mone.

is this “depression” an unexpected form of self-intimidation ?

Assuming that higher levels of man-mones indicate the presence of a potentially overwhelming competitor in the natural setting… could the limbic mind be reading the runes and conclude that Og the Bonecrusher is standing next to us ? I have expereinced strange depressive passes with my p75-p78 spectral mix… sort of a “dark constructive intensity” like it would be appropriate to go out and chip myself some flint weapons… the feeling is quite visceral, and often I lose my already limited sense of companionability… -none is worse though, which can make me truly grouchy… there may have been times when A1 acted as a depressant… this also hints that perhaps in the primeval tribal order, it served as a self protective response against the super-bad ass… if you became de-energised and withdrawn around the Uber-ApeDude maybe he left you alone to procreate off in the bushes out of his sight… where if you became combative you got removed from the gene pool quickly… OTOH… the alpha males in primate populations are significantly more prone to age related stress disease… the rule with fear and might but they die young or are killed off as soon as their strength wanes… so there is a presumed “beta survival advantage” … could be that this depressive reaction IS nature’s beta withdrawal strategy at work…

'mones, sex, and rocknroll …but you die younger.
quality or quantity of life?
i do agree that the negatives of anything are always telling you something… MODERATION.