I have an 8 month old daughter and I don’t want her to get any negative effects from being around the area where she’s present. I know it sounds like a stupid question but I want to make sure it doesn’t effect her in any way I don’t want her to reject me from the mones being too strong. Is it safe?
There are only 32 threads on this one already! ![]()
Not dangerous per-se but a kid’s brain is still developing, so its not advised to expose them to certain sigs - notably overt sexual or status mones as they can alter a child’s perception of you somewhat and they are likely to avoid/ghost or be actively repelled by you. So for these reasons, its generally advised to avoid such products around children - and more generally, anyone in a psychologically compromised state.
Socials are a different matter and kids generally do very well around them - notably IO or IS. ![]()
Ok that’s good to know. So Ammo probably isn’t the best thing to wear when I’m around the area. When I shower does it completely come off?
Ammo is quite reasonable, yes but keep the dose sensible, not too high - Its the more overt Products like TUTH or IJ you really need to avoid.
Some mones are stickier than others, so when you shower, clean your app points well with plain soap or use something like a Witch Hazel or Salicylic Acid (anti-spot) wash which will break them down entirely.
I especially noticed when I wear A314 around my uncle’s kids they tend to be more careful with me. Its like they find me a piece of china instead of a ragdoll.
The gist: Stick to socials. Avoid Androstenone.
Read LWatkins’ journal for insights.
Date: 02/05/14
Application: a314 1 1/2 drops. P75 2.5 mcg, P83 25 mcg, One shot TUTH. Added another 25mcg p83 later in evening.
Venue: latin restaurant for dinner with fiends, about 30kids for a kids entertainment event. Later at home with wife.
Results: initial application right before heading to restaurant. The husband offered for me to join him on a trip to amsterdam to all the coffee shops he’s frequented in the past. Wanted to join us on a ski trip, beach house, etc. Very buddy buddy. His wife gave me frequent arm touches and was leaning in close, rubbing her neck and sternum. Children at our table were extremely well behaved. Wife was in a good mood. Other children at the venue were insanely loud.
Later in the night hit a second 25 mcg of p83, things got a little spacy but pleasant. My wife did not flip out at all this time around with the P83 . After finally getting baby to sleep late, i made a bold move and we had actual sexual intercourse (first since before the birth), rather than just outer-course. Tonight she just couldn’t say no.
Source: lwatkins test log - #26 by lwatkins
As far as we can tell in empirical and peer-reviewed science, topical pheromone use is safe around children.
There are a few molecules I personally suggest you avoid, namely Androstenone and Androstadienone, the latter we simply won’t carry. (Androstenone has its own merits, albeit in very very minute doses.)
Products I do suggest contain alpha or beta androstenol, TAA, TAC, P96. Many others. Social products do well. Instant Shine, Gentleman, Openness, small amounts of A314 sprays or oil.
I would exercise taste and not use pheromones daily around the house with young infants. From my perspective, and reading many field reports, your “natural signature” is better when it comes to the family unit. Babies are guided to the mother’s breast by smell. Breast-fed babies have higher immunity than formula fed babies. If all women breastfed their kids 7-18 months longer, NHS would be spending $62 million less each year taking care of sick kids.
Just saying. I wouldn’t break that cycle.
And now that I have fully unsold you on wearing pheromones in your home environment…
The playing field is wide open in other aspects of your life. One can wear boxers and tshirts around the house, but you don’t wear boxers and t-shirts to work. You wear well fitting slacks and a button down to work. You can wear pheromones around big people. Good luck mate!
I find that when my children were exposed to the androstenone, it made them a little spacey. Not a good idea IMO.