Artificial induced heat in dog

Hey folks,

First time I posted in the Deep side of things.

Here is an interesting development that I experienced this week. In a recent post I explained that my brother and his wife had flown to the chalet in Austin to ski. They have two pugs, one male one female. Pugs are so cute and lovable.

Anyway I was wearing my pheromones around them and at first the female pug who is very much a lap dog refused to even come into my presence. On the other post (it might have even been a call to Jasmin, I forget) someone suggested that the pug was probably sensing my new pheromone signature and in her mind although she recognized me from sight she did not recognize the phero signature.

I thought that was a reasonable explanation and within a short while she was back to herself. I started to notice a short time (within a day) she went into heat so I had to leash her when I took her for walks.

My brother came home today and I told him that his pug was in heat and to watch her. He said it was not possible because she had just come out of heat a week before they left.

I never mentioned the pheromones, but it got me to thinking. Is it possible sex based phero’s like Turn Up The Heat, Ammo, Instant Female Magic can artificially induce heat in a animal?

I haven’t heard of this so I was wondering.

SteveO,

Twas me! In my post “Setting for new experiment” I thought that might be it. In any case that horse responded when she was NOT in heat to Ammo 1.0. I gotta ask my friend if his horse went in heat again.

Cheers,

:cool: Quicksilver

Yup that’s the post I was thinking about.

I tried a search of using key word of "changing estrus cycles’ and found this.
Do Pheromones Influence Animal Reproductive Behaviours?

  • There is a wealth of evidence linking pheromones to specific behavioural changes in many animal species, there are a number of confirmed effects:


  • 1. Lee-Boot Effect: van der Lee and Boot (1955) noted that when female mice were housed 4 to a cage their estrus cycles became synchronised and extended.

  • 2. Whitten effect: Whitten (1956) confirmed that female mice housed together displayed an extended estrus cycle.

  • In addition, when a male was introduced the females ovulated synchronously 3-4 days later.

  • The substance was found to be androgen based on pheromones secreted in the male’s urine.

Previous slide Next slide Back to first slide View graphic version Hummm.

Wow, I see the topic I just posted, “Cross-species Pharamones” may have just as well been a continuation of this thread. I was told we’re rather similar genetically to pigs… and I guess there’s only so many mammalian pheromones nature has produced thus far…

…yet another reason to stay away from od’ing :o

i was not aware(but then i am no biological OR chemical genius…heck i couldn’t even be considered learning disabled in those subjects) that human pheromones were similar to animals’ or would induce a reaction…i do know that when i apply either my pheromones or my transdermal test gel my female dog seems overly, annoyingly interested in those areas…she becomes obsessed with trying to lick it off(minds out of the worst of gutters please, i apply my test gel only to my upper arms!!). or course she loves to lick any lotion i put on also so i don’t know it’s those particular chemicals.
joseph

Nature likes to conserve energy. Once she invents something that is successful, she reuses it with modifications. Consider eyes.

hi mtnjim,
that makes sense on certain levels but i guess on a level that is meant for us to find each other and mate and ultimately (well for straight people) reproduce it would be odd to not make major enough adjustments so that we don’t end up rutting with pigs and dogs…i’m definitely not arguing with your theory..it just seems potentially…confusing on such a biochemical/primal level. i know i know..doesn’t mean it can’t happen just because it seems it shouldn’t…look at the platypus..
joseph
also forgot to mention…i really like your signature line!

Human and proto-human mating behavior (along with other animals) is driven by things in addition to pheromones. Something may “smell right” but, if it doesn’t “look right” we won’t mate with it (in most cases). For example a peahen expects her mate to look like a peacock, not a cow.
There are exceptions, for example a bull that “falls in love” with a tractor.:open_mouth:

that is a great point and i suppose should have been obvious to me…i appreciate the education…some very interesting stuff! as for the bull and tractor…okay..i’ve heard of interspecies attraction but i think that is a step beyond! lol!
the more i think about what you say the more it seems to make sense…like the alpha male humans that even animals seem to ‘sense’ is in charge. they probably catch a whiff of his alpha pheromones and know! (off subject sort of but i am betting that’s how cesar millan ‘the dog whisperer’ does it!)
joseph

I was actually having similar thoughts about Cesar. I am wondering if he might actually wear pheromones.

There is no question though that dog had signs of heat and she just came out of it a few weeks prior. I love her like my niece so never again will I knowingly wear phero’s in her presence.

my thought was more that cesar probably just has the alpha pheromones naturally..from what i read..even as a kid he had a ‘rapport’ with the dogs…