We continue our exploration on Meo-Est now. Again it seems to work nicely with TAC for Sugarpice in eliciting friendliness and a mood boost, Tater points out that he doesn’t use it in a mix regularly because of its ‘memory erasure’ effect, Denec was having a hard time seeing any results from the molecule on its own, while Warren was getting Meo-Est’s famous ‘nest cleaning’ and ‘mind-altering’/‘spacey’ effects…
sugarspice (April 18, 2008):
“MEOEST+TAC = Awesome. Just a good mood that is nearly unshatterable. This usually guarantees hello from strangers. It’s not like a high like drugs or a zoinky feeling like with TAF, it’s quite natural, like your not wearing anything. I would say this is natural attraction. I don’t know why it turns heads for me but it does.”
sugarspice (April 23, 2008):
“…I do a 3 to 1 of TAC and MEO-EST. So 30mcg of TAC plus 10mcg of MEO-EST and I’m pretty positive for the full 8 hours of work. My journal has a semi log if you want to check it out.”
sugarspice (June 2008):
“…I’m not so sure TAC alone does anything BUT MEO-EST is the intensifier. I think there is TAC in MX 135. I tend to use that with MEO-EST when I’m going for the BAM effect. Though I am not so sure it has been as effective.”
sugarspice (June 2008):
“…Well TAC by itself is hard to gauge, so I always add MEO-EST. Usually it’s 3:1, but this time I upped the MEO-EST to strait 1:1. I used 3-4 sprays. My bottles are 10mcg each. So I’m guessing by diluting the two I got 20mcg???”
MadisonTate (May 4, 2008):
“…Tater also avoids MEO-EST for regular use in a mix because of the memory erase effect…”
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/meo-est-report-13057.html#post113871\
denec (April 30, 2008):
“ MEO-EST report
I bought a bottle of MEO-EST 20 mcg, and here are my results so far:
Day 1 am:
meo-est 20mcg 1 spray to upper chest - throat
no self-effects, no hits at all going to work or in the city
Day 1 lunch time :
meo-est 40 mcg 1 spray to upper chest - throat and 1 spray to chin
no self-effects, no hits at all
Day 1 after work went to a local bar :
applied 2 more sprays of MEO-EST 40 mcg same places as above
no self-effects , no hits
Day 2 am:
meo-est 60 mcg, 3 sprays all to the throat area
no self-effects, no hits
Day 2 lunchtime :
meo-est 60mcg , 3 sprays, two to the wrist, 1 to the face
no self effect, no hits
Day 2 Evening :
meo-est 100 mcg, 5 sprays all to the upper throat , chin
was hoping i would get some self-effect, but nothing
I decided to go out to the local barnes and noble and do some strolling and got nothing to speak about.
I will start mixing with other pheros, i am waiting for my TAC 20mcg, since i ran out of TAC 5 mcg, should be here this week.
I was hoping it would do some self effects, but i guess maybe i really need to mix it with something else to see something. Or maybe I am just immune to the self effects. I am just reporting what I observed so far.
Later today I am going to go back to MX203 which has become my favorite and now throw meo-est into the mix and see what happens if anything changes.”
denec (May 2008):
“when i experimented with meo-est by itself i got no self effects at all, or even help with effects of targets
here is my thread
MEO-EST report
I found later on with idle help it is best to pair with others like TAC seems to work great and others then you see better results
by itself i have yet to find a use for it
it is really hard to pin down exactly the use of meo-est”
Warren (May 2008):
“Back in December and January I did some experimenting with MEO-EST. I have trouble coming to any conclusion about what MEO-EST does, but I took minute by minute notes about what I was experiencing. It definitely does something! I apologize for not reporting my results sooner, but stuff was happening in my life. These experiments were inspired by Jasmin’s hypothesis that MEO-EST invokes a nest cleaning instinct. Here’s the raw data -
Sunday Dec 16, 2007
up about 1:00 pm
coffee, eggs, pancakes
1:27 pm two sprays in the face of TOGO MEO-EST (2.5 mcg/ spray)
No other pheromones.
Intent: Wrap Xmas presents, clean room, write letters.
2:40 pm I’m getting things done, but I’ve got a headache.
2:52 pm Somewhat obsessed with thought of a female friend & unhappy, discouraged.
3:02 pm Heartache. Double Espresso. Another spray MEO-EST
3:08 pm lying down, hurting. sobbing.
3:12 wrapping presents, again
3:18 sense of calm
3:32 pm I’m composing letters in my head. Adding two sprays Instant Honesty
And one more spray MEO-EST.
3:53 pm I still don’t know what to write. I’m thinking more and
getting less done with the addition of Instant Honesty
I am disinclined right now to see MEO-EST as nest cleaning,
though perhaps it enhances nest cleaning if already invoked.
Perhaps now I am brain
cleaning.
4:12 lying down again. gift wrapping done.
4:45 Nausious, head ache. God, I hate that Instant Honesty smell normally I like it.
Lying down, awake, mind racing.
5:45 Feeling relatively, normal. Going to dinner.
Monday Dec 24, 2007
Intention - determine 2007 tax liability, clean room
1:26 pm two sprays MEO-EST togo on chest under light shirt,
strong coffee
1:29 a little light headed
1:32 I think it does seem to be focusing me somewhat. Less
distractable from what I’m doing which is cleaning off
my desk.
2:19 Focus really stalling out. Mind wandering all over.
2:20 Another spray MEO-EST, 10 mg pregnenolone for alertness
2:23 50 mg dilantin for focus
2:29 feeling sad.
2:30 Very mild sense of disorientation.
2:50 Clumsy.
2:56 - 3:15 Thinking about relationships. Writing.
3:34 Coffee, I&C
3:35 Another spray MEO-EST w/ one spray Fem Magic.
3:58 I like this, focused, less distracted (by the bitch in my head?).
It seems that
4:18 Calm, maybe a little tired.
4:31 A little spacy.
4:35 Spacy to the point of being sleepy. (I got at least 10 hours
sleep last night and I’ mon my second cup of strong coffee
since 1:26). Way too calm for so much caffeine.
4:54 Well, I have gotten my desk cleaned off. Lots of stuff filed
away or shredded, the flickering light over my desk fixed.
Maybe MEO-EST is nest cleaning. My desk has been
stacking up for more than ten weeks. But it is more complex
than nest cleaning, for sure. The Fem Magic made a big
difference.
Monday Januray 14
intention: clean up office, do filing
11:30 am 3 sprays MEO-EST
11:57 Focused and energized. No way I’m gonna just lie around and
do nothing this morning.
I seem to need to be active. It would be difficult to just read
for any length of time even if it was
material which was important to what I was trying to get done.
12:11 This is a wary uncomfortable feeling. I don’t like MEO-EST by itself.
12:15 A314, two drops, old formula
12:20 - 12:30 lying down, feeling bad
12:45 Took old stereo that I’ve been falling over out to the dumpster.
12:58 Feeling miserable.
1:00 Two sprays Instant Female Magic. One more spray MEO-EST.
1:39 Feelimg much better after Instant Female Magic Making progress filing papersand cleaning desk.
1:49 Feeling a little sick at my stomach.
2:45 Still making progress with the work I intended to do, but there are interruptions
which are un usually annoying.”
Warren (May 2008):
“…Meo-Est didn’t feel obsessive compulsive. I didn’t make me feel particularly happy. I did get more “nest cleaning” done than I otherwise would have, but there was other weird stuff going on emotionally. Re-reading my notes, I was obviously feeling tired (depressed?) and spacy during most of the experiments – and it was on three different days so that wouldn’t seem to be coincidental…”