Avoiding the friendzone

So I’m a long time reader and user of pheromones but never posted till now. I’m wondering if anyone has a bit of advice on mixes that may help curb a situation in my favor. I have a new friend who is contemplating moving away in a few months who I’m really interested in, I’m well established as a friend: we’ve hung out a bunch, we’ve gotten food, ive given her rides and helped her in jams,I’ve used a few trust based pheromones like honesty, openness etc. Today she dropped a bombshell on me sort of that she said she was oblivious but it had been pointed out to her that i’d been flirting with her so she wanted to see if it was true. I admitted that I was but harmlessly given that I knew she was moving possibly, she responded by telling me she was talking to someone and it’s serious, however she made the distinction they are not together. Any advice on a way to salvage this in my favor? She seems like she’s responded mildly to turn up the heat or ammunition in that she says I smell good or that I should be out on dates rather than being home some nights when I am. Or am I passed the point of no return in friend zone territory?

It sounds like she is letting you know there is a possibility now that she realizes you are interested but to what aim considering she is leaving in a few months I do not know.

You’re wasting your time chasing this woman. At this point, you need to realize that she is seeing someone else and not you. Take a hint (or a slap) and know that she is no longer investing in you… Meaning she’s not interested in dating with you. Its time to suck it up and move on like a man and let her go. Pheromones won’t fix your problem. You’re looking for a fix here, but understand that pheromones are a tool, not a crutch, to help you improve situations in your life.

I would stop talking to this woman completely and start dating other girls. Let her be the one to initiate contact from now on. Start acting like a lover from now on instead of a girl’s male friend that does favors.

Don’t worry about the leaving, think about the returning. Consider your every move now as your investment to pursue her once she’s returned.

Your current pheromone of choice and use are perfect, you simply need to push the pedal now, specially that you’ve opened up and she’s responded positively to it.

Give her a reason to think. Present yourself now as a good option, the best option. :slight_smile:

Good luck! :slight_smile:

This is always a very tough one, whatever you do just be prepared on what her reactions are and don’t set yourself up to be hurt as this is a hard one.

Since she has responded good to the Ammo and TUTH you definitely need these 2. What did you wear around her the Ammo or TUTH and how many sprays when you did get the positive results? This is important to determine on how to approach this thing.

What I would do is to be honest with her and see how it goes, I mean if she is going to move anyway why not?

I am thinking if you start with a small amount of IH and go heavier on the Ammo and see where this gets you. You can always add a small amount of TUTH later on to see hows things go.

Oh, I think I’m the king of the friend zone, and every time try to get out of it, I lose a friend! Cause they are not comfortable with being friends with me after I try to make a move…story of my sad , lonely life(

I’m afraid that running the risk of losing a friend is a pre-requisite for breaking out of the friendzone.

However, that you are willing and able to do this is something that does raise your value and attractiveness to a great many women.

Easiest solution is to stop being friends with girls you find sexually attractive.

That’s what they do with men they’re into.

This Saturday I had two separate instances of girls calling or texting me late at night. Now, I knew perfectly well that they didn’t want to ‘hang out’ with me or needed me to offer them a ride, because I NEVER ever do that unless I’m physically involved with a woman.

I always make sure a woman knows from the way I look at her right from the get-go that I am attracted to her (if that is the case) and from there I just don’t do any friend-type things with her. We either go on a real date or I move on to someone else if she’s not interested.

You won’t know if you’re too deep in the friend zone until you ask her on a date. Ask her out and make sure that she knows that it’s a date, not just two friends hanging out. If she agrees, settle on a day and time, tell her what time you’ll pick her up, say no more and either get off the phone or end the conversation. Plan the date yourself. Don’t ask her where she wants to go. Women want the man to be the man and the man should plan the evening. Don’t tell her where you’re taking her, either. Let her find out as the night progresses. Since you are friends, you should have a good understanding of what she likes and what she’ll respond well to.

If she turns down your offer for a date, let her know that your interest in her is romantic and that you’re not satisfied with remaining just friends. Then go out and pursue other women. One of two things will happen. First, she’ll respect you for being man enough to say that you’re not interested in just being friends with her and you desire more. Secondly, she’ll more than likely call you after several days once she realizes you aren’t chasing her.

Women want the man to be the man. Take control of this situation. Ask her out. If she says no, let her know that friendship alone isn’t what you want and move on. You aren’t ever going to get what you want by being a good friend.