i just want to say the the warnings of depression/downer that come with it are warranted.
i was fine when i was out and doing something, but when i came back i really started to feel down. I have never had depression issues so i’m only guessing at what it was, but if i would have to guess thats what it feels like.
I did 3 sprays TUTH to-go and 2 shine (regular). I’m going to hold off on the TUTH for a while.
I have used androstenone products for years without a single incidence of depression. Also, reports from users regarding depression are extremely rare. However Instant Female Magic and A-1 are known to cause depression in many males.
I’m guessing you have a rare sensitivity to androstenone–stay away from gyms and shower regularly as natural androstenone is abundant–or the depression was a coincidence or perhaps a result of a combination of elements. The only outside agent that can and will give me depression like clockwork is Costco and Safeway beef (I assume a chemical additive as fresh farm killed beef and deer are fine).
I wear 3-4 sprays of TUTH whenever I am going out clubbing/prowling at night venues.
Love the stuff
For some reason I thought it was turn up the heat that did it. I have used instant female magic a few times and did not notice anything depressing. In a couple weeks or so I’ll try Turn Up The Heat again to see if i can isolate that as the issue.
It was wierd because i got back home and just felt out of it. Kinda did this morning too until a hour or so after i took a shower, so I assumed it was the pheromones. Though come to think of it that seems like a real long time for them to last.
I guess i’ll know for sure when i try it again.
Edit: If it matters i’ve also used Ammo and mx172 with no issues
Well, Ammo does contain androstenone, so you should be feeling down when you use it as well…
Androstenone can cause depression, well not really depression but the feeling of anger and the feeling of bieng on guard and alert, this is a “high” feeling, and as we know anything that gives you a high usually gives you a low, which probably what some people interpret as depression, the amount of androstenone we take in these synthetic doses are extremely high, probably higher than what a whole football team would put out in the lockeroom, it can get a little overbearing at times..
mind you before writing this post i took a good sniff of my alpha 7
I used to be able to wear 10 dabs of NPA without flinching or feeling a thing. Maybe I’ll try it this week and see if I’m more sensitive since cutting back (been over a year since I’ve worn such quantities). I’d love to feel a little angry and up. Too mellow living in paradise…
I went through a period where i was feeling really out of it, and although I can’t tell you for sure what it was, I suspect I had been using pheromones too frequently. Take some days off if in fact you have been using them frequently, and see if that helps. It did for me. :o
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I guarantee you Instant Female Magic can make a guy feel down. It did for me. As for TUTH, I don’t know. Androstenone usually actually makes me feel more like a tough guy than down. I feel very respected. But also puts me into a sort of sensual feeling.
If you feel like pheromones are affecting you though, apply to the back of your neck. I know for me, since androstenone makes me feel those ways, I use it only on the back of my neck now. I like the way it affects me but then I can’t really tell how much is it just me, or how much it’s affecting others…
So yeah try that.
Androstenone (primary pheromone in TUTH) can be a pheromone that carries a lot of really negative energy if spun the wrong way. I feel very unsociable and ‘out of it’ when I wear OD levels of androstenone (back in my LS, NPA drenching days). It hasn’t ever caused depression for me (TAF and dienone have though), but I can certainly see how someone would feel depressed with androstenone (TUTH).
How much TUTH were you wearing? How old are you, and what’s your ethnicity. Its quite possible you’re hitting OD levels with TUTH, and are getting slammed by the negative effects of androstenone. Best bet is to experiment a little more with TUTH by itself…play with the dosing until you find a comfortable spot. Also work on building your tolerance to androstenone if you can.
I’ve only felt down with IFM, and that was when I sprayed it again the next day (2 sprays each time). Yesterday IFM was part of my mix and I didn’t feel down at all.
-none doesn’t affect me at all besides feeling tougher of course..
i’ve got a question, I’m not sure if i OD’d or not, but something didn’t feel right. I had 2 shots of ammo and 2 shots of instant shine on at like 1145 am. at 5 am i proceeded to add a shot of tuth and another shot of instant shine. I felt kind of worried for a while, it was kind of making me anxious, but i started feeling a little bit better later on, but didn’t really seem to get any kind of reaction as i went to a classical music concert. How do you know for certain that you od’d? I’m having a lottt of trouble using tuth, in fact im kind of weary of using it. hahaha
OD’s tend to come in the form of anger by people around you, or being completely ignored all together. As far as self effects, you might notice flashes of barely controllable anger over minor things(or major things, but i’ve been lucky enough to avoid that).
In other words, it puts me on the edge, where one little thing could send me into a downward spiral of anger, and the lack of understanding could lead to anxiety.
when you Apply it next time, put it on the back of your neck. This will prevent the self effects almost completely, while still letting it work on others.
Best,
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thanks a lot perronec, i meant 5pm not 5 am just to clarify my little typo.
try applying on your wrist…
I did that today with pure instinct, and smudged a bit extra by mistake on my hand, which I tried to wash off using antbacterial soap.. still I didn’t OD. I met my latin dance teacher unexpectedly, I had a314 and pure instinct on, covered with Azzaro Now… 
GOOD MAN. i love azzaro chrome. i discovered it this summer hahah.
But this isn’t chrome. It’s “now”. It’s new…
oh woops, i misread that. i don’t know what it is, but pheromone use just makes me unusually tired at the end of the day, more so than usual. pretty exhausting, i don’t know if you can call it a down or not. but damn i am tiiiired.
My average daily addition of Androstenone is around 10 mcg sometimes alone with some cologne, or with added Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone.
On Monday i had about 20 mcg aNONE applied to throat with spray of Giorgio, However 1/2 an hour later i was called out to visit a single mother and after 10 minutes the 19 mth old daughter was up on my lap with her arms around my neck pulling at my hair with one hand and inscribing geometry on the right shoulder of my white shirt with her other hand, somehow she managed to find my pen.
She was still content after i had managed to get posession of my pen, and when it was time for me to leave she became somewhat distraught and screamed when her mother tried to take her from me.
Maby the aNONE imparted a fatherley type vibe ?
Next day i had about 50 mcg aNONE on did not feel any difference untill about 8 hours after the 1st application and it seemed to hit me, I thought i had a dose of horse influenza and had to go lay down as i was exhausted for some reason.
Today however went out with 20 mcg aNONE applied with couple sprays of classic cologne and 12 hours later i feel fine, and i have only had one small glass of cola so far.
But i do sometimes notice some fatigue setting in after a good dose of Scent of Eros if i havent worn it for awhile.
Guys I have been using raw power for over a year now, FOR EVERYDAY. And I testify to this fact. You don’t know you are feeling down when you wear that stuff. Just like an alcoholic won’t admit that he’s dependent on alcohol. One thing that I use to thought was that the feeling will fade over time as I adapt. IT WILL NOT. I was just as depress today as I was on my first day of using it last year. Raw power made me very very anti social. I get extremely angry over the smallest slight or comment that I deem to be disrespectful. Also do you ever get the blue when you wake up in the morning? If you use raw power long enough, it becomes the way you think. Most of the time I feel that there is no point life, I guess you can call it depression but not exactly. However, there is some good that has come out of this. I pretty much walk and talk the same way that I do when I’m on the -none, even when I stop using it. Minus the depression of course, and I smile a lot more. It’s so unbelievable how happy I am after I stop using it. The first few day I smile so much my friends ask me if I was high. One other good thing -none did was molding my personality and helping grow up. I pretty much never talk when I use -none so a lot of times I pay really close attention to what people does and say. It’s unbelievable how stupid and shallow some of these teenagers are around me. They rant about the most pointless things. I learn so much about myself and people around thanks to -none, and because of that I no longer care about what people think about me. I no longer stress about the little things in my life and my life is much less materialistic. Sometimes it’s I like I have two personality. It’s like night and day when I use the -none and quit. So my advice to anyone who use tuth and raw power, use it only and only when you really need it. You use -none every day it will ruin your life and if you use it long enough it will change your personality and outlook on life permanently. I know it sounds really crazy but it’s the truth. I’ve gone on and off -none many times and the change is so drastic I be crazy not to recognize it. I also have TE and IFM, and compare to raw power, TE makes me feel like a cocky punk thats too confident for his own good. With IFM, there is no depression that I can notice and I have gone through half a bottle.