Questions for experienced users of Andosterone.....

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Ok, so I’ve read the faq’s etc. Done as much research as I can. And realise there are probably 20 of these exact same posts everyday asking these same questions. But I still gotta ask there so here goes:

I purchased Turn up the heat . I’ve got decent game no problems there. Just wanted some kind of extra pimp juice and have been fascinated with pheromones for a long time. A friend told me a story about 2 years ago, he said he bought some brand (don’t remember which) and was only supposed to put on a few sprays, so he put on half of the bottle, went about his day as normal, and had sex 4 times (he was luck for once a month before that). Said he was having his lunch at this restaurant, no one was in there, and when getting his check to leave the waitress who showed no interest in him before suddenly grabbed him by the shirt and pulled him into the bathroom and they had sex, and 3 other similar type stories like that one he told. Could that be true?

Also, I’ve been trying to find a chemical breakdown or ingredients, or how much of what is in turn up the heat and what those particular pheromones do but I can’t find anything, which worries me, I even emailed and asked them and they never replied. Does anyone know how much andostorone etc is in it?

I read that there can be negative results if you put on too much, and not to wear at work etc. What do they mean by negative results? Do they mean you could be attacked or have something awkward at work with a female i.e them pulling you in a bathroom, them saying something sexual to you and not being able to help it? You smelling bad? or what?

I saw something else saying it can produce negative effects from other guys. Howso? Is it jealousy because you’re getting more attention from women? Or just the fact that their brains can pick up your pheromones and their instinct is to be aggressive because you are competition?

Are the effects that amazing that it will really be THAT noticable, or just a slight not very noticable increase in conversation from women, with a confidence boost in you because it’s more of a mind thing?

Does it really cause depression?

Does it have it’s own perfume smell?

Could i put on like 15 sprays and go to the club and have a real crazy amount of girls?

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Hello

Possibly but my guess is that he is exaggerating it quite a bit. He probably would have gotten results using a whole lot less of a good Androstenone product. He probably had a product with a low concentration of Androstenone so he got away with wearing to much.

This really surprises me because they know how much is in it and they will tell you.

Turn Up The Heat has 2.5 mcg of Androstenone per spray

AMMO has 2.5 mcg per spray but 2 other pheromones buffer the Androstenone so its 7.5 mcg of total pheromones per spray

RP is 10mcg of Androstenone per drop

Work is not the right environment for certain pheromone products. Women may become aroused, no they wont pull you in the bathroom, they wont react because its really not the proper place to react to such feelings. So you probably wouldn’t see the full effect of the pheromones used in that environment. With Androstenone products you can wear to much and have the OD effect. Turn your pop up blocker off and point your mouse here >>>>>>>>>>>> OD Plus a lot of work environments have zero tolerance rules and pushing a sexual vibe there would not be good. There are a lot of other products designed for work use though.

If you wear to much other males can become aggressive and competitive they may even get jealous your getting all the attention but jealousy is not a reaction created by the pheromones but by low self esteem. If you wear your normal dosage you can get hits from women and men will be pretty much unaffected.

pheromones are very real but I do think your friend exaggerated. Read the post in my signature below “what pheromones can do and what they cant do” This will give you a better ideal as to what they really do.

My shortened version…

The enhance who you already are, they attract arouse calm connect ease and make socialization a whole lot easier. They will not make people do things totally out of there character or morals

There are many different types of pheromones not just Androstenone. Androstadienone can cause a down feeling in men, not depression in a clinical sense. It only happens to a very small percentage and not enough to really stop them from useing it. That’s the only one with those reported results.

Only if the product you buy has a cover scent. pheromones smell musky or like body Oder with no cover. Most products here come in neroli scent or with some sort of cover. You can use your cologne to cover as well if you feel you need additional coverage.

Nope, you would probably OD with that amount if it were a Androstenone product. Course there are other pheromones and products that cause attraction that do not have Androstenone in them and you could probably wear 15 sprays of those but it would be wasteful and smelly. pheromones cost a lot of money its wise to learn to use the correctly.

MY guess is you have been reading all those hyped up sales affiliate sites that claim pheromones are miracle products that will makes girls react like they are in a AXE commercial. That’s just crap and gives real pheromones a bad rap. Mones are very real, we all naturally make them, we all communicate with them every day. Synthetic pheromones just help enhance that, they give you a edge on the competition.

Tisha

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I think that’s an understatement, since if you wear enough androstenone (which is a very common/cheap pheromone and the one that alot of people probably first encounter), people tend to stay away from you and get nervous, of course. It doesn’t attract people at that point.

As a man, I would add my own take: it doesn’t create jealousy in other men so much as it puts other men on edge to be around it- it’s really a more “physical” thing than mental. Wearing it can create tension in a room, uneasiness. This reaction seems to vary by an individual’s tolerance to the stuff, their ethnicity, etc. It creates space around you, especially in higher dosages; especially if no other pheromones are worn, it can send off a hostile tone. And it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with self-esteem, it seems to effect every man to one degree or another and men will either become more avoidant, aggressive or go “shields up”/shut down, based on my personal experiences and the experiences of others I have read. Simple disagreements tend to become arguements, etc., neutral statement can be seen as somewhat negative, and so on. It’s something to watch for.

I can actually smell/feel butyric acid (and other rancid fatty acids) and androstenone on men now sometimes, and I know to react acordingly, it means that person wil be on edge moreso and I could be walking around a “minefield”, so I tread with care. It’s wierd because I really did not have this sense before (or rather wasn’t aware of it consciously), but it’s almost like a sixth sense now. There’s a reason some BO tends to make people uneasy, and it goes beyond just the olfactory sensation of smell- it’s pheromones.

I would say, rather, a significant minority of men experience depression (even if they don’t seek treatment, that’s an important point). This group usually has problems with androstadienone / Instant Female Magic. And it doesn’t wash off all that easily. I could mention alot of journals/posts of men that say it makes them feel bad, or feel like crap, or causes nightmares, but I’m not sure they’d care for me mentioning them by name (or screen name, rather). Sometimes the worst effects only come so long after you apply it, initially you can’t connect the dots back and it won’t click right away.

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Unfortuanately alot of that is placebo IMO , Its reported here but not in other test groups. Even here in the forum the percentage is low of reported down feelings compared to the amount of people actually using the product. A feeling of being down is not depression by the way. When people use IFM and do have that feeling it generally passes once the mone is gone. A1 is not as sticky as anone so you shouldnt have a problem getting it off with some witch hazel or peroxcide.

It can occur but its really not a serious problem and can easily be controlled by using the product away from your face.

Tisha

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It most definitely is not a placebo. It’s one of the most “physical” pheromones out there.

I don’t blame you for not finding any studies. They can be difficult to track down and the phenomenon is not widely studied in the effects on men; most of the press talks only about the female response to the “pheromone”. However, you could check this out:

http://www.senseofsmell.org/acr/Volume_VII_No_%204.pdf

“They (men) initially had a more
negative mood response to both steroids,
including androstadienone, when compared
to the carrier control. With estratetraenol,
men reported greater early negative
responses on the drug and mood scales”

It’s also widely reported that androstadienone raises skin temperature and alters galvanic skin response in men. Interestingly enough, I experience hotter feeling extremities when exposed to Instant Female Magic. The mood lowering effects are countered with Instant Shine, however the effects of androstadienone are quite persistant, it’s difficult to wash off (bathing/shower are the only way really to remove them) and I don’t feel the effects are trivial at all. I think it’s hard for a woman to imagine the feeling, because they are used to a totally opposite response. The effect takes time to “build up”, and 30 minutes exposure really isn’t enough time. After a few hours and IFM wearing off, it really does become like a feeling of dread, and sleeping with the stuff results in nightmares. Succubus sort of describes it. It’s like a nagging, bad feeling that just hangs over you and weighs you down.

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I never experienced this depression and I have sprayed myself right in the chest. I have even OD’ed, just wanted to see how far I can take it I also did not notice my friends or other men around me getting depressed or moody around me while I was wearing it. I did make sure to cover it well though, because I know it does not smell well at all.

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I am not talking about online studies I am talking about statistics from test groups not only here in the forum but in real world. Androtics is a research and development company and the forum isn’t the only place they test.

Actually that article is very good, Thank you for sharing it. You should post it down in studies and abstracts. It also supports what I just said above. Its a down feeling not depression. Depression is a serious hormonal imbalance. People can get down feelings from many products Caffeine is one example. No where do they mention men feeling depression. Women however after 9 hours of exposure and when coming down off of it felt it. Not while exposed to it. These symptoms and the ones described in the lower part of your post coincide more with neurotransmitter overload . Not depression.

Perhaps Placebo was to strong a word, but I believe that men expect it will make them depresssed in many cases so they end up feeling down. This is in no way to say that the down feelings the few people have reported are not real. But to call them depression would be a inaccurate description.

Tisha

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I’ve never suffered any mood shifts, mellowing or depression from chemset A-1 or Instant Female Magic. However I’ve read so much complaining about said effects here and at LS I figured there must be something to it. Realize androstadienone occurs naturally and is the most common pheromone on male skin, so it must only have negative effects when natural levels are multiplied manyfold. Otherwise plenty of guys would suffer depression after a workout or if they skipped showering.