Best club pheromone

[josef]

@rtharaka

I have IFM too. Well it makes me mellow and basically I dont like how it makes me feel even though it makes women feel gr8 around me. Im planning to exchange my IFM for an IFM 2.5 mcg spray or less.

interesting. i’ve heard one or two others report similar effects when using A1 but it’s never happened to me. i will almost automatically reach for the IFM bottle whenever i will be around a group of women, or one in particular. i can’t imagine trading in my bottle of IFM for anything, except for a full bottle lol.

[Rbt]

I too have never really noticed any “bad” side-effects from A1, but I only really “used” it as a component of Pheromax/m.

I do have and have used IFM about 4 times so far, and also have not really noticed any “bad” effects, but I’ve also been using it along with things like IShine, which may “ease” the supposed negative effects of A1 and A1-like products (on men). I really haven’t paid much attention to it’s effects on other men I’m around, mainly cuz I’m usually concentrating my attentions on the women’s reactions! Admittedly I’ve added IFM to my combos when I know I’m going to be with women, and not as a “standard” everyday application. I’ve also been aiming it primarily on the back of my neck, wrists, legs, etc. and away from my nose anyway, just in case…

[rtharaka]

well… i haven’t used IFM too much. Just 2wice so far. !st time i got good reactions from women. Even I dont look at mens reactions. But it was making me more mellow and feel less confident - even though I had 1 spray IS on my neck. 2nd time I used IFM i asked a HB from my class out for this school dance. She had to go for a friends B’day party that day but looked glad i asked her. But I didnt like the way I asked her. Seemed to make me more mellow and I think I was leaning too much on the reactions of the girl. After I asked her out I went to the washroom and completely washed away the IFM . I had IS and IO on. It felt a ton of a lot better. When I went back to the class and I just felt hell of a lot more confident and carefree instead of leaning on girls reactions when I had IFM on. I got much better reactions with just IS and IO on than with IFM. Or maybe I developed my game with IS and IO. It might be possible to develop game faster with IFM. Well thats just my experience… Wanna exchange my IFM for an IFM that sprays less per spray.

[Rbt]

If I understand IFM and A1 correctly, I don’t think they would be a item of choice in a club environment. They/it seems to be aimed more at “calming” or “mellowing” effects. Not what I’d see in a club environment. I would think products that “excite” or enhance that so-called “sexual tension” would be better (eg -none products, Spaceland, IOpen -nols], etc. Maybe even products like Dirty or Instand Jerk, depending on situation and desired results.).

For me, IFM would have more of a place in a one-one one or small group situation, where there may be “less-than-happy” women, say due to the situation (I wore some A1-containing Pheromax to a funeral/wake with what I think was good results). Or in a higher than normal tension situation like a business meeting or tiring convention, or at those times of the month when some women get depressed.

The effects of IFM and A1 on men are/is sometimes, as you noticed above, negative/depressing. So I would tend to go light on the applications, and maybe apply more to by backside, away from my own nose, but where it would get picked up by my companions. Possible a shot of IShine dabbed directly under a guy’s nose would help counter any negative IFM effects? (Unscrew the cap and apply directly. Not spray.)

Still, again, I don’t really see IFM in a “club” or “one night stand” type of situation, or even in a “wild party” situation. Long term relationships, general dating, less formal parties, even business, yes to maybe. It’s more something I would target to a specific situation/person than as a general “everyday wear” product.

[examine]

@Rbt

If I understand IFM and A1 correctly, I don’t think they would be a item of choice in a club environment. They/it seems to be aimed more at “calming” or “mellowing” effects. Not what I’d see in a club environment. I would think products that “excite” or enhance that so-called “sexual tension” would be better (eg -none products, Spaceland, IOpen -nols], etc. Maybe even products like Dirty or Instand Jerk, depending on situation and desired results.).

For me, IFM would have more of a place in a one-one one or small group situation, where there may be “less-than-happy” women, say due to the situation (I wore some A1-containing Pheromax to a funeral/wake with what I think was good results). Or in a higher than normal tension situation like a business meeting or tiring convention, or at those times of the month when some women get depressed.

The effects of IFM and A1 on men are/is sometimes, as you noticed above, negative/depressing. So I would tend to go light on the applications, and maybe apply more to by backside, away from my own nose, but where it would get picked up by my companions. Possible a shot of IShine dabbed directly under a guy’s nose would help counter any negative IFM effects? (Unscrew the cap and apply directly. Not spray.)

Still, again, I don’t really see IFM in a “club” or “one night stand” type of situation, or even in a “wild party” situation. Long term relationships, general dating, less formal parties, even business, yes to maybe. It’s more something I would target to a specific situation/person than as a general “everyday wear” product.

yea. i notice that. another thing, is a girl will smell it, and whomever shes dancing with, she will get comfortable with. so ‘other’ males can benefit off of your IFM. not so great. it happened last weekend. im looking for something to add to it tho. I have phelure which i believe is a -rone. this should be an attention grabber. once you lock a target w/ IFM. nothing but good things can happen.

one on one is more my thing anyways.

[Cloud9]

I reserve IFM for the first few dates or until I actually find a keeper. then I just wear IFM when she is getting close to PMS time. Otherwise IFM can really mello me out if I’m not too careful.

[PheroQuirk]

@tacitus

TAK is almost an anti-mone, or a real chiller outer spacerouter… in small doses like sandpaper, taking the edges off everything moreso than TAC… as for TAC, well, I’m the extremo in the nuthouse here, so I might load up with 50-100 mu in a crowded bar scene

do you find TAK allows you to ‘get away’ with higher doses of none? I need more sample points, but I think it might work that way. Partic if the TAK fades faster than the none.

[Cloud9]

I wonder if A314 might need to be left out at the clubs to allow more women to approach you. I know if you intiate things first with A314 it really helps reduce rejection. I’m just wondering what would be best for a club setting with tons of women around. I’m torn between this:

CLub mix: 3 sprays IO 1x, 3 sprays IS, 4 sprays IFM, 1 spray TUTH.

Or should A314 come to play?

I’m thinking at a club setting with tons of women and people..might need to try to be as open as possible to women approaching you.

[rtharaka]

Once in a club I got lots of women sticking and dancing around me and giving me looks with just Pherlure. It wasnt a bad night even though I didnt hook up with anyone…

[smn1234]

good posts… thx!

[sidpehro]

@MHarris

Dirty and Intant Jerk both being high androstenone.

Many people like androstenone around ovulating women (human heat)… and where do you reliably find ovulating women? Singles bars, for one.

You ovulate, you go out.

Alone.

It is, in fact, the women going out to bars and nightclubs alone that are usually the ones most apt to being picked up. That often want sex the most. There’s no one to say goodbye to when they “leave with someone”.

I wouldn’t say that large groups of women going out to dance necessarily qualifies. It could just be a group activity, where, sure… many of the girls hope to meet some guys “for future reference”… but aren’t necessarily looking to “score” that very tonight.

Granted, some will be. You really have a 1 out of 30, or 1 out of 28 chance, something like that, that a women is ovulating.

(That’s an interesting exercise. Today, as an mental exercise, keep in mind that something like 1 out of every 28 women you see today definitely wants it. With certainty.

Not a huge number, but not bad, either.)

Also, I’d bet my money that the leader of any all-girl group is the one likeliest to be “on the prowl”. She, did, after all, drag all her girlfriends out. Strong urges often mirror strong biology, and vice versa.

Aside from:

1. college girls at “get crazy” parties,
2. “dirty girls” (often girls with an abuse history that they’re compelled to relive),
3. women who’s biological clocks are “ticking”,
4. high testosterone women (women with lower voices and sharp masculine features), and
5. any woman “dirty or clean”, prissy or not who’s ovulating (the “magic” time of the month for girls young and old)

Aside from those, I know of no women with a “must score tonight” type mindset.

“Scoring tonight” a very masculine mindset, that most women only indulge in occasionally. Sometimes, yes, but not all the time.

It is the previous 5 categories of women you typically see respond best to high androstoenone in a sexual fashion.

If you’re going to use androstenone in this manner, you can’t be too picky… you have to use it to quickly SORT through the women who happen to be responding well to it that night. Not all will, so be sure to do lots of approaches or “sets” to find the responders.

If you want to be able to pickup any woman that strikes your fancy, on the other hand, to date later on… I’d recommend something more akin to the lighter mix above, or one of many of the lower -none mixes other guys here use.

A lighter mix give you access to a much broader pallette of women, but, they won’t necessarily be open to “closing the deal” that night… They’ll still need to be courted. Whereas the much smaller set of women that respond well to high androstenone may be open to “get busy” that very night with someone new.

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