hey guys,
whats the best combination of pheromones to go to a club, dance with a hot chick there, get her hot and bring her home ?
Have you done this several times without pheromones already?
Pheromones can help speed up your game, but don’t act as a replacement for knowing what to do.
The only product I can think of that serves as a substitute for game whatsoever is Instant Female Magic. It seems to induce women to do some of your job for you.
Here’s a mix that’s been working well for me at clubs (well, small bars, really) recently:
3 sprays Instant Openness 1X - neck, hair
3 sprays Instant Shine - applied AROUND neck area
4-5 sprays Instant Female Magic - rear of neck, hair, wrists
1 Spray Turn Up the Heat (5mcg androstenone) - chest/neck
That’s a starter. Like clothing, you have to “size it right” for you. It’ll take a little experimentation to find what fits you best, but it’s worth it.
The above mix will definitely make women feel good, and help them become more expressive. Initiation on your part with it will go a long way.
One thing, I’ve never been a big “one night stand” kind of guy myself, so it’s hard for me to comment specifically on this scenario. I can usually “close” fast, though, in a more typical sort of “dating scenario” especially with pheromones.
Pheromones are like using loaded dice… things are more on your side, your % of success goes up. It’s like oil. Makes things go in and glide easier.
I would think 1-2 drops of Dirty or 1 spray of Instant Jerk would be a good “one night stand” pheromone product to use. Also, you could add InstantFemale Magic .
Dirty and Intant Jerk both being high androstenone.
Many people like androstenone around ovulating women (human heat)… and where do you reliably find ovulating women? Singles bars, for one.
You ovulate, you go out.
Alone.
It is, in fact, the women going out to bars and nightclubs alone that are usually the ones most apt to being picked up. That often want sex the most. There’s no one to say goodbye to when they “leave with someone”.
I wouldn’t say that large groups of women going out to dance necessarily qualifies. It could just be a group activity, where, sure… many of the girls hope to meet some guys “for future reference”… but aren’t necessarily looking to “score” that very tonight.
Granted, some will be. You really have a 1 out of 30, or 1 out of 28 chance, something like that, that a women is ovulating.
(That’s an interesting exercise. Today, as an mental exercise, keep in mind that something like 1 out of every 28 women you see today definitely wants it. With certainty.
Not a huge number, but not bad, either.)
Also, I’d bet my money that the leader of any all-girl group is the one likeliest to be “on the prowl”. She, did, after all, drag all her girlfriends out. Strong urges often mirror strong biology, and vice versa.
Aside from:
- college girls at “get crazy” parties,
- “dirty girls” (often girls with an abuse history that they’re compelled to relive),
- women who’s biological clocks are “ticking”,
- high testosterone women (women with lower voices and sharp masculine features), and
- any woman “dirty or clean”, prissy or not who’s ovulating (the “magic” time of the month for girls young and old)
Aside from those, I know of no women with a “must score tonight” type mindset.
“Scoring tonight” a very masculine mindset, that most women only indulge in occasionally. Sometimes, yes, but not all the time.
It is the previous 5 categories of women you typically see respond best to high androstoenone in a sexual fashion.
If you’re going to use androstenone in this manner, you can’t be too picky… you have to use it to quickly SORT through the women who happen to be responding well to it that night. Not all will, so be sure to do lots of approaches or “sets” to find the responders.
If you want to be able to pickup any woman that strikes your fancy, on the other hand, to date later on… I’d recommend something more akin to the lighter mix above, or one of many of the lower -none mixes other guys here use.
A lighter mix give you access to a much broader pallette of women, but, they won’t necessarily be open to “closing the deal” that night… They’ll still need to be courted. Whereas the much smaller set of women that respond well to high androstenone may be open to “get busy” that very night with someone new.
Nice post 
Would it also be correct to say that once you get an ovulating woman or a woman out on the prowl with a product like Dirty or IJerk; that you would need to switch to a non-copulin Anone product like TUTH? I’m wondering if you would want to avoid a copulin containing product for longterm use with one particular woman once you obtain her either as; pardon my words, “fuck buddy” or long term girlfriend? Maybe the presence of copulins would make you seem like a cheater once you are with a particular girl on a regular basis.
Hey guys … Good to know that this is an active forum.
I tried out Alpha A314 with IO and IS at a ball recently..
Got lots of compliments and also 2 hot girls asked me for dance. But even during the dance the girls weren’t getting hot. Could feel no sexual chemistry. I dont have any androstenone products now. But I’m going to try out Pherlure with A314, IO and IS one of these days. Will let you guys know the result.
Plus I’m working on this girl who’s may be 2 years older than me, who’s my residence fellow. I’m a college student. She has a BF who lives out of this area. Also residence fellow’s are not allowed to sleep with people living on their floor. I want to hook up with her before the end of this term because:
- I like her - She’s hot and nice.
- I made a cash bet with my buddy that, I would get with her before the end of this term.
So far, she shows signs that she likes me from our interactions but I haven’t made a significant move yet.
Any advices would be appreciated.
Pherlure has gotten a lot of bad reviews when used by itself from reading all the forums on it back a few months ago on another popular pheromone forum. “Turn up the Heat” is a very high quality timed release Anone product here. I just ordered mine. A lot of users say its good to add to A314 to increase the sexual side of things. I don’t think Pherlure will do that. It’s not even an Anone product from what I remember.
For me 30mcg -none and z-14, no A1 no NOL just a high dose of speek softly and carry a big stick.
some kinds of pheromones might open the door for you but your personality and charisma have to step through. if they find the pheromone that works on all women all the time i’ll order a lifetime supply for me and all my friends. you can use androstenone and it will eventually work, but your body and mind would probably be much happier if you combined the pheromone with your personality in order to get her into the sack. if you didn’t notice any sexual chemistry but you hope to develop some, try the “be there, be excellent, be gone” maneuver. if there is a hot woman at a club you can be guarandamteed that she has more opportunities for sex that night than you do. if it means you have to go through three no’s to get that ooooooh you won’t have wasted any precious time talking to a brick wall and now you’ve got one more no out of the way.
I have quit talking about Pherlure, mainly because I got tired of the attacks on me for reporting what I experienced with it on another forum, but in my experience, Pherlure definitely has an effect on the right women, in the right circumstances. Some women respond, some do not, just as with any pheromone. But when they do respond, it’s most definitely sexual in nature, unless they have a very low sex drive or something. Even then, though, it seems to alter their perception of you by making you more attractive in appearance.
With one exception, the women who responded to it in a sexual manner for me were all women who were highly sexed, and it seemed that the women who were of low sex drive only got a more favorable impression of me while I was wearing it. One of those women was adamant that she only wanted to be friends with me, and when she realized how sexually she was responding to me after I put some on, she disappeared and I haven’t seen her since.
But Pherlure is one of only three products that has consistently gotten me application point kiss hits, the others being AE and then TE got me one application point kiss hit. I apply these things to places you would not normally kiss someone, usually, too.
I stopped using it for a while to try other products and mixes. But Pherlure has been very sexual in my experience. Just have to find the right woman and situation. (Dis-inhibitors definitely help!)
Yeah Pherlure is definitely sexual. I even got approached by some girls with pherlure. In my opinion pherlure is not great for hooking up with new chicks. But great to put on before sex. It gives me a headache though. I got IFM recently put it on only 2wice so far with great results. My present combination is :
A314(1 drop in da morning) , 1spray IS and 1 spray IFM. 1 spray of IFM or IS as need (at night) along with IO. Works great. I keep pherlure just for sex. Only bad part of IFM i found is it makes me lil mellow. It’ll be super if androtics can fix this.
Just curious why you don’t think Pherlure is good for hooking up with new chicks? What effects does it have when you use it right before sex? And the other combination, you apply this in the morning and it lasts all day? I see a lot of variance between how much people use …
Pherlure brings that whole romantic thing around you. 1 spray of pherlure if enough to last 8-10 hours. It gives me a headache though. I say its not good for hooking up with new chicks cause of the intimidation factor i suppose. Sometime into conversation with some new chick, when the conversation kind of dies down a little, It can be intimidating to the chick and she might leave- i suppose. Unless you go in for the kiss 10 minutes in. I haven’t done that yet. Still working on my game. Ill be trying it sometime soon. Will let you guys know the results.
Clubs ? Intimidation ? Maybe you could use TAC
TAC is among the warm (as opposed to hot) pheromone, although I haven’t logged in enuf hours to say what the definive nature of it is… I would think when the averge person goes out, especially the female person, they unconsciously put up their “creep barriers” out of the expectation that they will have to repel the invaders and glassy eyed glommers… TAC (so far as I know) exudes a mellow, trustworthy, low stress kind of “vanilla” psychological note, goes with almost anything, rich full flavor, takes the rough edges off… you might stand out as the exception in a roomful of moderately unstable, inarticulate, intoxicated, sweaty loud people with a different level of alpha, Zen Alpha, centered, calm, collected… as opposed to Pissed Off Alpha or Needy Alpha (this weird but common psychologlical state presents itself as “insistent” and “demanding” however is based in emotional malnutrition at an early age that will then learn to “pry feeling” out of others like a guy with a crowbar pulling rocks out of the ground)… I find that now women love a solid earthdaddy aura coupled with a functioning brain… builds confidence and a sense of predictability… people have a fundamental need for predictability ya know…
Istnt TAC the mone to prevent lone wolf syndrome? If yes…How does it prevent lone wolf syndrome? Does it make people want to be in your prescence mostly? Does it mix well with other mones like A314, IS, IO, IFM ?
TAC mixes very well with most things
there was a strange reaction with TAC and TAA… like they were pulling in different directions, some people began wildly laughing, others became engrossed in what they were already focused on… so maybe IS and a load of TAC could be somewhat off base… I would think that TAC would be a superb complement to anything overtly sexual, or quite excellent by itself… people will feel comfortable and secure around you, not all self revealing and babbly like the -nols cause, though… IF I were an older guy, say with a 10 year age differential, TAC would be a must have mone, cools down the creepy old guy concerns… if you use a high dose, and you’re in a packed joint full of boozed up weekend casanovi, you’ll create a bubble of sanity around you that has a good feel, add in some -none family sex juice and a couple of kittens may want to snuggle up next to you…
hi tacitus… optimal dosage/ratios? how do u find TAC blends with TAK? I find too much TAK calms things down too much if meeting new people…
Tacitus suggested in other post TAK as being potentially useful for this purpose.
TAK isn’t my thing most of the time
TAK is almost an anti-mone, or a real chiller outer spacerouter… in small doses like sandpaper, taking the edges off everything moreso than TAC… as for TAC, well, I’m the extremo in the nuthouse here, so I might load up with 50-100 mu in a crowded bar scene
okay… best club pheromone. This is what I found closest to work for me: I pretty much tried out A314, IS, IO and Pherlure extensively. I live on university campus and go sarging a lot too. So theres no shortage of kittens. I found out that mones do not substitute for game at all. It enhances the experience. And sometimes it can also be bad cause mones diguise the sexual tension and you basically feel nothing for the other person (at least me). I developed some game in the past few months. Now mastering the kiss close. In my opinion wear as less mones as possible. I wear 1 drop of A314 in the morning. 1 spray of IS. After 6 hours another spray of IS and IO. You dont even require 1 drop of A314 if there’s nothing important concerning authorities that day. I have IFM too. Well it makes me mellow and basically I dont like how it makes me feel even though it makes women feel gr8 around me. Im planning to exchange my IFM for an IFM 2.5 mcg spray or less. Even to clubs IS and IO worked the best for me for meeting chicks and for number close , date close and kiss close. Haven’t done a full fledged pickup from a club yet. Will do one soon. Problem with IS is that you dont feel any sexual tension. It could be a good or bad thing. Not exactly sure. 1 spray pherlure before sometime of going to the club works good. I am 5’8 , athletic build , weight: 150 lbs, and considered handsome by almost everyone I know.