well we have all seen pheros enchancing attraction but is there any phero or mix that will cause a feeling like falling in love or at least something close to this??and if there is is there any differnce about age and race btw my target is a caucasian brunnete aged 18 (almost 19)
You need to read the various “Fallout” threads, K-Train’s A1-Guide and the A1 Mix Repository threads.
That will put you on the right track. ![]()
There are actually a few different blends that are great for this. A314 used to be tops for the fallout/love kind of effect but since rev31, it hasn’t been the same. I got that effect with rev20.
There are a few different ones you can use - I actually wrote an article on possible “love pheromones” if you want to check it out.
How about to make MEN fall in love with WOMEN? Thanks!
With younger women I have found they want a more connection with a guy emotional before they open up physically so for this you will need something like Ammo or S.Ammo as your base and then some P96 as this will do the trick.
Otherwise like Mobo suggested A1 would go very nicely here to. Now I would use one or the other as A1/P96 is just to much and is overkill if used together.
Just out of curiosity, what effects are there that cause it to be ‘overkill’?
Too much comfort/moderation - and not in a good way. The odd young teenage girl might get a bit crushy but anyone else is more like - “You are the dearest, nicest, safest and most cuddly-wuddly, bestest friend in the whole wide world”
So no balls, no edge and no real attraction - and not much chance of sexualising it with other mones either.
Stick to one or the other in mixes but not both.
High doses of A1 and 30 mcg p83 with small spray tuth made 2 girls on different occasions tell me they loved me on first day of date, both ended in them giving terrible head, like some sort of fish with very little movement but it’s cool though, atleast they loved me, by the way there was some booze involved both times . A1 was high , around 100-150 mcgs. Depressing times ensued and had no energy. Perhaps p93, p83 and a little bit of p74 tossed in with small dash of none and nols would be a more stable mix for crush type reactions. I don’t know a whole lot of p93 except that it could sub dienone. I try to stay away from dienone in attraction mixes for some reason. It’s too dark for me solo. I know it could work well buffered maybe with Est.
Peace.
When I first got A1 I tried at really high doses like 100MCG and higher because I did not know better and think a lot of newer people do this including myself. I have found right at about 5-10MCG a drop or spray to be about right.
Like Mobo said it just kills the sexual vibe and makes it to crushy type of a vibe. I found really quick to when used with P96 or P74 it really amplifies this effect to. A1 is highly diffusive and has a natural scent to it that is really strong and much stronger than say Enone or Erone.
In mixes the A1 always stands out by far due to this.
Suck his dick, play with his balls, make him a sandwich and don’t talk too much.
— Dave Chappelle
Yes - A1/P83 as a base has been commented-on by some of out most respected past posters as “Lovebomb” mix before - so its good to see it make a comeback. Although it was a much more immediate/overt thing compared to a carefully nurtured crush/fallout.
A1/P83 with NPA or TUTH for its sexual steering was one that did very well for me in the days before I took-up A314-based mixes. OTOH I most often used approx 40mcg A1 - in a spray (this was before I got into making oils) and 40-60mcg of P83 depending on the environment and how much sexual I was using.
For the sake of nostalgaia I think I’ll take this one out again for the first run of my new batch of P83 oil. See how that works! ![]()
Actually, while we are at it - and while its this weeks freebie, A1/P103 might also be a good candidate for testing. Anyone done it? I have a feeling that this could be a valuable pairing.
Sounds like a challenge I am in! I have A1 in 5MCG a drop in DPG and find this is all I need and I have P103 in 2.5MCG and also in 50MCG both in Neroli. So what range would you like to see both tested in?
I am in the process of finishing up testing P121 and then I have committed to test a mix for Brasileira and then I will test this setup and will post in my journal.
I’d probably look to around 30-45mcg for the A1 and in the 20-50mcg range for P103.
Decided to try what little I have left of the following mones : 7.5mcg P83 x , p74 20mcg 1x and 25 mcg androstadienone 3x and 2 sprays togo tuth made a caucasian 20 something girl with her boyfriend open me while I was at a library. I was sitting down at a corner futon area next to the window with 3 empty couches around. Lo and behold this pretty 20 something caucasian lady with her japanese boyfriend stops in her tracks, gives me a huge dihl for around 3 seconds and asks me if I mind if they can sit down with a glazy eyed smile. I said “no, please sit.” and looked back down at by giant book.
She was quite animated for the next few minutes and started speaking in japanese to her bf and it was cool as I didn’t expect her to know japanese. At that point I looked up at her and smiled slightly. She immediately looks me dead in the eye with a glazy eyed grin and says what a cozy library. Her bf looked a bit confused but was cool. I said yes, but I wish they had bean bags. She burst out laughing louder than what should have been since it was a library after all. I knew something was up and my mones were doing a number on her.
Unfortunately I felt like shite and it took me some effort to be friendly. A good friendly and sexy hit, I’m sure another place and another time without her bf would have gotten me atleast her phone number and a few dates. We had a small chat about video games which I know alot about and some anime which I don’t know about except for the words Cowboy bebop which I brought up. As soon as I said cowboy bebop she got up and sat down on the single couch right next to me and siad you should definitely go to a video game convention happening soon, remember we are 20 mins in convo while I briefly pause to read and they briefly paused to talk to each other during this whole time. I said that sounds cool. She tells me when it is and what games will be displayed etc. The bf got up after a few mins she looked at him, paused for a few mins and got up to follow him, while getting up she said it was nice to meet you, I’m Caroline and hope to see you in a few weeks, you should definitely come. The bf at that point had a serious looked and nodded at her to leave. I hope they did not have a fight afterwards. All I can say is wow dude. All of my bottles are around 1/10th full so I’m really scavenging at the moment. All the sprays were on my shirt.
After the 28th of the month when I get paid I can stock up and do some good damage to my bankroll in the name of research and wisdom, I’ll do some serious hardcore testing but in the following days I will be running the same type of combo wherever I go. P74 has really been great and have had more similar hits over the past few years where the girl was with her bf but opened me somehow. The bfs were always pissed and took them away shortly after. Wow man, atleast getting hits after trying so much stuff from everywhere. The only good hits I got were back in the day with 3-8 dabs Apc(discotinued) or half a spray of chikara with 2 dabs of the edge.
BTW been running ascend, a1 and p74 for the past few weeks. Every amazing girl had their backs towards me with zero eye contact and a blank and scared expression on their faces, nothing positive at all from 18-45 year old women except fear and running away from me within seconds of exposure.A high amount of fear based respect from guys though , even from the ones who gave me shit before were quite, docile and smiled every time I looked at them. Very old women around 60 Plus gave me sexy eyes more than I could count with the ascend, a1 and p74 combo, God bless their hearts.
Peace.
Did only p74 with p83 around 20 mcgs each on new shirt. Got a few looks while at the mall and at a restaurant. tuth might be needed looks like it or similar none. Will see… Some women around me became a bit carefree and animated though and started singing and dancing etc. It might need nol or shine which I do not have. Yet!
Yes - P74 definitely needs a sexual in non-social/non-professional mixes IMO. TUTH or NPA were my favourites.
Justin, I have a 4mcg per drop A1 [2mg in a 10ml bottle]. How many drops would yield the equivalent of approx a 12-15mcg per spray?
You just need to add-up the number of drops till you get the required MGC.
That’s if its in alcohol, if its an oil, you will need a further adjustment to cope with the slower diffusion but that also depends environmental factors.
At 4mcg per drop, you could well still get good results with doses as low as a couple of drops - A1, really suits slow/subtle exposures if you are looking to make the most of the fallout/crushy effects rather than its moderation/comfort properties in more immediate mixes. And oils are superbly suited to this! ![]()
Damn man. I’m like kind of in this situation where. Like i might of been fucking my mixes up and need really get my shit together dude. Maybe i Od’d on a314 oil or something but the Girl I’m talking to has gotten less of flirty vibe and kne time mentioned. Your like a big brother to me type shit. When earlier. In the relationship it was more. Your hot. I’d totally give you my number if I saw you in the street. And flirty with me. She’s has a boyfriend though so that’s another thing that I think is messing with her. But still just using her as a test subject. But. I have p96 spray , tac spray. Ammo, alpha v.a spray , Alpha 314 oil. Is , iH,p109,p133., tuth I was about to order some p74,p83or 86. I need the most sexual one to get the most sexual mix together man and can’t seem to get one really right. For this new girl. One of her friends she introduced me to. Like. I know the basic. Ammo,Is work. But seems like it stopped working or doesn’t work at all since I got it recently. Don’t know if I got a dud. Indont want to complain either. I am thinking of just getting straight none, or like anol, or whichever ones that’s going to help me get the best sexual magnet mix together man. Help me PLLEASE
I have found that almost that with almost all dropper that 5 drops equals right at about 0.25ML and have tested this myself and 9 out of 10 times that was the case only once was it actually a hair more and due to a different dropper design.
Also are you looking to make a Togo 5ML bottle or a full bigger 30ML bottle?
The problem you have is you only have about 160MCG total of the A1 in your 2ML and you would have to get a really small bottle like 2.5ML or smaller to get to the desired MCG you are looking for because you would need about 8ML or more of the A1 to get to the desired 12-15MCG and you would have to use the bigger 30ML bottle.
I hope Mobocaster comes in and checks my math as I was waking up when I wrote this, but I am thinking you might be best off to keep the A1 you have in the bottle that it is already in and just use it up until you are ready to order more.
we are about the same age and what I would do is lean heavier on the TUTH and use TAC or P96 with it if it is the pure sexual you are going for. I would check out Jdub’s journal and look at his Mix 1 and Mix 2 and this will give you an idea and should work fine around her. I do not know much about P83 and hopefully some others can comment on it, but from what I understand it is a physical disinhibitor. With the ones you listed TUTH, TAC, and P96 would be your best bets.