Best sexual pheromone complement for A314?

This would be for meeting women while also wearing A314. Please post any colognes I might have missed in the poll or additional comments.

Thanks!

Matt

Also may have missed Instant Jerk…oops!

I currently own Turn Up the Heat TUTH and Ammo as potential complements, but I was interested in exploring.

Matt

Personally, I find Alter Ego the most straightforward to complement. Its oil base gives a similarly long lived and even diffusion.

However, I have also had good results with both NPA and TUTH - Although TUTH in particular needs a fairly uninhibited ans social situation - eg Clubbing, drinking and dancing. :slight_smile:

IO + IH. Really, no need to complicate matters. A314 is the status and alpha male component, and the -Nols add the attraction and social element, I don’t really find adding Enone to A314 all that helpful.

TUTH hands down

due to low traffic I am going to move this poll to another forum. Didn’t know how few people visited the A314 forum…

Matt

To be honest I resent this as a topic. A314 is a masterpiece and trying to make it sexual defeats it’s vibe.

If you can’t meet girls on A314 alone, you need to work on congruency - not add random products that aren’t even close to A314s quality like what’s mentioned in the poll.

That may be why there’s a lack of interest.

THis pole is kinda bias since most people here know TUTH but never heard of the others. Just my 2 cents :smiley:

HERE HERE! I agree a million times~! A314 is the best thing I have ever come across!

Dont put ketchup on filet mignon.

That’s why I dont add things when I wear A314.

At times maybe IO if I want to edge off the authority.

lmboff

“ketchup on filet mignon”

A314 is sexy and much like with any other pheromone product you CAN close with it alone. I think where a lot of people get confused is that since more directly sexual products like TuTH exist and are advertised the way they are it communicates that each product has a very specific function and that it won’t work for anything else.
Now of course I know that’s not the case but I can easily see how somebody might make that assumption.

The product descriptions in the AD store make it seem like A314 is great for work, and for establishing value, and building attraction with women that might normally be considered “out of my league”. But the impression is that if you use it alone, then you can’t escalate sexually unless you’re using TuTH.

Something to consider though. Since we talk about congruence so much, let’s imagine two men “mone free” but who’s personality, and demeanor epitomize the respective products. Which man is actually going to be more sexually successful? the man who practically defines the A314 vibe? Or the man who’s body language, facial expressions, word phrasing and voice inflections all communicate that he’s extremely aroused sexually?

In a lot of ways John is right. A314 communicates an “ideal man” vibe. Status and value and don’t forget it does in fact have None in it already so it’s already more sexual than saw IG. If you think about what A314 is designed to communicate and you tailor your game around that vibe you should be able to escalate sexually with no problem at all.

Now that said I love tuth and have used it with A314, I can’t comment on the other products as I’ve never used them. And I HAVE used TuTH and A314 together in various ratios and doses. From experiences I would say if you want to use the two together then go heavy on the A314 (say about 4 drops) and use only a single spray, or even a half spray of TuTH.

The reason for this is too much of a high none product will skew off the rone/none ratio of A314 and make your vibe not very A314 like at all. With A314 in such a high ratio compared to TuTH in such a low ratio you won’t destroy the James Bond effect.

Also, remember A314 already has none in it, adding TuTH will give it a small boost of none plus the sexual steering mones. The thing to remember is that when those sexual steering molecules diffuse off of your skin and are inhaled by the target, she got the message. The steering molecules are making sure that the none in tuth is interpreted in a sexual way…and they’ll do the same thing for the none in A314.
A half spray to a whole spray seems to be enough to go from James Bond while bantering with a villain vibe, to a James Bond right before he bags the Bond Babe vibe.

Any more than that, say two or three sprays and the sexual message becomes so urgent that you seem desperate for sex which kills the A314 vibe.

This is based off of my experiences. When I’ve done equal parts A314 and TuTH (meaning drops/sprays) it just comes off aggressive.
Even at doses of 3 drops to 2 sprays, it seems attractive enough, but I feel it lacks the wow factor that A314 alone has given me.
However at a ratio of 4 drops to a single spray, I keep the A314 vibe (for the most part) and the sexuality seems to be increased.
Again my theory being that the none from TuTH and the None from A314 combined pretty strong and the sexual steering mones in tuth are designed for just that, to make sure the none is sexy and not aggressive…kinda like adding pure none to tuth will make for a stronger none signal but you don’t need more of the steering molecules to make it sexual imo. This is doubly true when you consider that alc based TuTH will waft off at a faster rate than the A314…which is why the A314 should be in a very high ratio compared to TuTH.

I agree A314 is probably best and indeed very awesome by itself. Also, hands down my favorite. Just for fun…
A314 +A7=very alpha, commando like vibe(maybe a little too much, but interesting none the less)
A314+NPA= better be your girlfriend or else she maybe intimidated by the sexual frustration
A314+Max Attraction Gold= she may just rip your clothes off in a very flirtatious way(wouldn’t try around women will get you in trouble such as the bosses wife)
A314+Armani Code= perfection in my mind
Looking forward to trying Turn Up The Heat soon!

And what you guys don’t eat potatoes with filet Mignon? They are two different products and its exactly why there is an entire website dedicated to the two products together. Its not adding Catsup to the meat, its adding the veggie or potato.

Someone good with game, like Radman can close without any pheromones at all. Not sure what that has to do with adding something to A314. On that note why bother selling anything other than A314, if its all you need anyway?

A314 and TUTH is a masterful symphony of masculine sexuality. It is the Alpha and sexuality of man rolled into a neat package. So yeah saying its like ketchup (and the cheap spelling at that) is a very limited perspective. So I am disagreeing with this completely.

Now i have tried 5 drops of A314 + TUTH and worked wonderfully but what if i whant to add cologne to it something like creed would the mones kill the smell ?

I wouldn’t think so. A314 I believe has some Akuto in it. But, I think the amount of cover scent per drop is even less than AD uses in the sprays which means that most of what you smell are the actual mones. Personally I love it. Akuto is hands down my favorite AD scent. I get nothing but compliments when I wear it alone, but it is mild and on the rare occasions that I wear something else over it the cologne steps up and you can’t tell I have anything else on.

I just ordered a314 and tuth. I’m starting to like my choices!

I’ve tried 2 drops of A314 and 1 spray of TUTH - great results. A look of awe on people and invasion of personal space. A guy actually lowered his eyes when speaking with me. Same results with A314 and Ammo. Love this stuff! I’m 34.

Very much depends on the context, who you are and who she is. I have had success combining A314 with TAC, TAA/Shine, P74, Androstadienone (watch resistance to opening melt away), Alphanol, Betanol, TAL, P91 and P86. Probably not all at the same time!

MHarris never used to object to mixing A314 with other notes, but obviously as prices rise and disposable incomes are squeezed then it makes sense to focus on what is very likely to work. I think A314 and each of the components above have their place and their time.

He actually suggested that A314 tended to lead to greater harmony when mixed with other products, and could act as an effective buffer. Here are some links to his posts:-

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=709089&pp=25&page=6

I do wish there was some way to preserve the best of the earlier days of the forum. The downside of making the forum very welcoming to newcomers (no uncouth ‘do a search’) is that one lacks continuity somewhat, and it is easy for insights painstakingly discovered later to become completely forgotten (to forum members, if not to the mix designers). Rupert Sheldrake has written elsewhere about the value of preserving tradition and a shared group consciousness.

I stumbled onto a surprise combo with hi dose a314 and high dose IH. I was at the end of a bottle of a314 and the end of a togo of 4x IH heading to a first meeting with a new client. About 5-6 drops of a314 and 1 full plus several dwindling last sprays of IH. Wanted to enhance the “Im the man, but you can totally talk to me” vibe. Meeting went great, but major hits for the rest of the day from seemingly every girl/woman I had contact with.