I have been experimenting with IFM and IS (reports coming soon!) and feel I am beggining to get an understanding of the subtle nuances that these products create.
From what I have read and what I have experienced, it seems to me that a perfect cocktail of products to create the effect I am looking for would be IFM + IH + IO + TUTH + IS .. each of these independently appears to cover a very specific area so, in theory, the combination of them would be awesome. But.. is mixing too many simply going to cloud peoples senses and blunt the effects?
I guess what I want to know is, can we process and respond to multiple synthetic pheromones simultaneously or, on a physiological level, is there just one pathway of action which can become ‘clogged’ if I mix too many products?
I’m not too sure..but I know with too much our senses can go into overload and..“not compute”. I don’t know how much would be needed to achieve this effect though. I’ve used A314, IS, IO, TUTH, and IFM all at the same time with great results. So I guess that wasn’t too much.
I don’t have much experience with the products here yet (first two orders on the way), but in the time I’ve spent with other products, I’ve found that while some mones tend to complement each other, others can actually inhibit each other. I don’t think that overly complicated mixes create a phero-overload, but the effects feel unfocused and less effective overall. Think of each product as a sort of “vibe”…some are sexual, some are comfortable, some are fun and sociable. While these are all beneficial traits to have, there’s a time to be highly sociable and fun, and a time to be highly sexual and mysterious…its not best to be both at the same time.
Rather than wearing overly complicated mixes that try to do too many things at once, I find that its best to be flexible with your mixes, and to be mindful of the type of social interactions you’ll be in…there are no universally effective mixes that work in ALL situations. The most effective mixes will focus on one central product that best suits a given situation, and is combined with products that complement the overall vibe you want to create.
For example…If you’re out at a bar or club and want to create strong presence, focus on sexual products (-none), and complement with sociable ones (-nols). For dates its best to mindful to who you’re gonna be out with, but generally focus on comfortable products with a splash of sexual spice.
I’ve always wondered at the “mixes” where very similar products are combined, for example someone wears both Alter Ego and Chikara (or Perception, etc.). The “primary ingredients” (pheromones) are basically the same, and often in very similar proportions to one another, so why? Granted some “secret ingredient” may make a difference, or like with Chikara you are getting a small dose of a a total of 7 pheromones, but it seems redundant.
I can see some point to doing a “chem set” type mix, putting different pheromones or products on at different places around your body, say a IShine type around your neck so you get the benefit of it as well, but putting something like A-1 or IFM away from your own nose if it has a negative effect on you personally. But combining very similar products seems a bit silly to me at times. But I guess whatever works for you…
I’m starting to use more complex mixes not to achieve a black and white goal, but to achieve a “particular flavor” of response. I’ve found so far that my latest test mix has had very good responses when I have been in close proximity to people and had a chance to talk with them. But when it comes to simple mixes, I’m fairlyscrewed on the sexual ones because I OD on None so fast without AA314. Throw in AA314 and I can quadruple the None I can wear (that’s as far as I have tested it), but then it’s no longer a simple mix! In my case, I’m looking to broadcast a message that says, “This is a high status mature successful male who’s very attractive, has proof, and has got his sh&t together. Furthermore, while he may be out of your league, you can at least talk to him and find out for sure, because he’s also a lot of fun to be around. And who knows, maybe he’ll like you.” That’s not a simple thing to do. I think mixing pheromones is like mixing paints. You mix the right kinds in the pright proportions, and you get what you’re looking for. Mix the wrong kinds in the wrong proportions, and you get sh&t brown. And I don’t know about you, but about the only use I have for sh&t brown - is painting sh&t. Which I’d rather not do. Especially on myself.
I specifically tailor my mixes to the type of woman I’m going out with. Is she alpha type, is she shy, does she like the bad boys? things like that. I will keep generally A314, IS, and IO the same. But I will add-in TUTH, IFM, or IH depending on the situation and type of woman.
If she is shy and seems easily intimidated I lay off the TUTH(Anone) for several dates. I’ll add in IH gradually on later dates to build up a closer intimate history with one another more rapidly. Sometimes I get a little zoned out with IFM so I use it on the first few dates and then taper it out for my own benefit. If your in a relationship you can use IFM when your having arguments or hard times with each other. OR use it during PMS week to alleviate the symptoms. The girls that like the bad boys tend to like men heavier in Anone.
I do a lot of mixing and matching with many products since it’s usually a hassle to apply all of them, especially when you’re either at work or at the club and don’t want to lug around 10 bottles with you (just imagine the noise! clink, clank, crinkle!). Plus, properly applying so many products can take up to half an hour, and application dosage can vary each time making results a bit unpredictable. I find that it’s far easier to combine several products together into a blended, homogenous mixture that you can just put in one roller bottle and apply in as little as a minute.
My three primary mixes use from 7-17 components, and they all work extremely well It took a very long time and many generations of tweaking and adjustments before the proper proportions and ratios were found, so if a mix doesn’t seem to work at first, try tweaking the ratios and adding or subtracting components based on how you feel they add or subtract to the effectiveness of the mix. Most importantly, if you have a little extra money and a good supply of mones that you’re willing to play with, be creative and try out new combinations! I would never have found my super mixes if I hadn’t taken a chance
you will begin to learn how to read situations, or anticipate them… and match the correct balance of factors for that situation… there are times when a dab of basic a314 is all that is required… others when alpha-nol and TAH will really amplify the right feelings-sensations… at the other end of town you can make the all and everything blends that work more organically when they’re tamped down to a low roar… those on the receiving end will manifest bits of this and that, glints of a wide array of emotions… somtimes you will engage in complex moments with others that are almost poetic…
This has been really helpful for me - thanks guys, your comments are appreciated. Got a first date with a girl this afternoon so I think I will be stacking the following:
x4 A314 (2 sides of neck, 2 inside elbows)
x4 IFM (2 back of neck, 2 forearms*)
x2 IS (front of neck/chest)
x2 IH (forearms)
*I’m ok with this as IFM doesn’t seem to effect me and, from what I understand, this should help get it ‘out there’ ..
I’ve ramped up the A314 as she is a glamour model/dancer and I figure the enhanced status/leadership effect will be beneficial in this instance.
ive worn this mix before. i would lay back on the a314, too much causes weird space. IH will make her think about you, and the IS reinforces she thinks highly of you. but its just heads up from what i saw. people have different chems.
Yeah I have to agree. I’ve used 3-4 drops of A314 and it creates a wierd space. Starting off small is good. I also suggest for the newcomers out there that you also should test out “1” pheremone at a time. I know its exciting to try a bunch at once… but you may end up frustrated or confused as what to do as I usually hear.
I’d like to hear more on the Estratetranol thats been mentioned.. without of course the person getting drunk and mixing other products in. That only confuses observations.
I started dropping back on the A314 too. I’m using 3 drops, but I may drop down to 2 pretty soon. You kind of get the pedestal effect if you use too much, and then they see you as being out of their league and stop trying.
Yeah I think I used too much one time, like 3-4 drops and it gave the wierdest space, like I was too distanced from them, like too good for them or something.
It took a very long time and many generations of tweaking and adjustments before the proper proportions and ratios were found, so if a mix doesn’t seem to work at first, try tweaking the ratios and adding or subtracting components based on how you feel they add or subtract to the effectiveness of the mix. Most importantly, if you have a little extra money and a good supply of mones that you’re willing to play with, be creative and try out new combinations! I would never have found my super mixes if I hadn’t taken a chance 