risk of mixing too many pheros?

Can you od by wearing too many products? I know that too much of any single one can push it over. What if I mix seven or eight products and try to balance them out?

No you wont really OD in the sense of “wearing to much” but you could get the opposite of desired effect.

Layering to many mones can send to many opposing signals. Think of it like being in a crowded room of yelling people. Its to much stimulation and you tend to block it out or just hear noise without a distinct direction.

When you layer you should have a good understanding of each putative you use and how each of those putatives react and interact with each other. It took many years to perfect something like A314 which has over 17 components in it. When your starting out layering single molecules or even mixes you should first understand the product you plan to layer on its own, then only layer two. Work with that for a while Then once you have a good grasp of those two start testing a third with the combo.

So say your going to layer IO IH P93 and P83… IO being your primary, you should always have a primary your working around.

You use each of these on there own for a while to gain an understanding.

Then test IO with just IH (at different ratios for each listed below)

IO with just P93

IO with P83

The repeat with IH.

IH with P93

IH with P83

P93 with P83

Its a long long process. For something like A314 arone is the primary and all the mones with it steer not only the primary but the other steering mones.

So my advice is find a primary you like that works for you and use only one other putative or mix with it. When you find a combo that works well for you slowly test out different third putatives or mixes. Dont just jump to using 8 different components. You will just waste a lot of mones that way.

Tisha

The saying “Less is more” applies to pheros very, very well IMO.

If you mix too many products at once, you do stand a good chance of sending an over complex and ultimately confusing signal.

Then there is the little matter of some pheros not complementing each other very well or acting in cohort to lessen the effects. The more you use, the more chance of this happening.

In the last year, I’ve stripped most of my mixes back to two or three components at any time and very occasionally four and TBH, I’ve been doing far better overall with them. :slight_smile:

Sometimes it seems hard to choose just 2 or 3 since I want the effects of several things.

I was thinking that because the phero effects are unconscious, then multiple effects can be automatically absorbed.

So if I use tac and p74, then both of the smooth effects are automatically detected.

Is it that the net effects of combinations are difficult to assess because of the interactions? So it’s not that tac + a314 gives smoothness + respect simply?

No they are not absorbed.

Ok think of it in the sense of colors.

If you take two primary colors in different ratios you can make a whole different shade of color. If you add in a third you can tweak that color more to a different shade. If you pile on a bunch of colors without knowing what shades those colors will convert to you end up with a big black/brown murky mess. You cant see any of the original colors.

Tac and P74 are not similar. Tac is relaxing and laid back. P74 is bonding and connecting as well as increases feelings of empathy. To much TAC and it can steer P74 away from its vibe. You may want P74 to be less bonding and connecting while still maintaining the empathy so using more TAC to steer it that way may be your goal. Different ratios will get you different “shades of color” or ranges of emotion.

Now if you piled on 6 other mones on top of those two those signals start to become murky unless your using mones that compliment and steer each other in a certain way.

Tisha

So p74 is intense?
Thought it was cool and friendly.

I think I’ll try tac with a314 or would this take away from the respect like IO does?

So it sounds like a decision has to be made on primary effects. Then focus in.

I have seen thes mixes with seven or eight items that have been positively referred to.

More or less, yes.

Also, the skill and experience involved in making a successful complex mix does depend on a period of getting to know each component and how it interacts with others very well indeed.

Also remember that in a complex mix, some of the components are in tiny “steering” quantities alongside a smaller number of primary components.

Steering molecules are meant to enhance Or to guide the effects of a mix in a certain direction, such as some -none to guide the effects of the mix in a sexual direction?

But a damper like IO with a314 would not be a steerer?

So I should use 2 or 3 primary molecules or products and 1 Or 2 steering molecules like p 79 Or p 83?

Yes.

IO is not a damper really. It can steer in some cases and be a buffer. By buffer we mean take the sharp edges off another mix. IO can help buffer the unapproachable side of A314. Make the user seem a little less intimidating and more open which is useful when the user cant convey that well themselves. If your not shy and are a open individual already you may not need the buffer. You can buffer it with your own body language and personality.

You really cant buffer with something like anone because its such a strong aggressive molecule. You can steer it or use it to steer though.

Tisha

I’ve got the androstenol at 25 mcg. I like the a314 but only 1 spray maximum because I seem to od anything more than this. I would not say that I am a very approachable person so I think I need some androstenol and beta androstenol to help buffer a314 so although I don’t like the self effects of either 1 I think I will use some this friday when I have a social mixer to attend.

Then I will add about 5 mcg androstenone and about 25 mcg p83 to finish the mix. And throw in about 2.5 mcg of p79 to help enhance everything and finally about 5 mcg s p 102 to increase my concentration. Experienced people any suggestions!? I hope to meet some high class ladies at this nice mixer.

Why don’t you start with just 1 product?
I use pheromones for 1,5 years now and 90% of the time i wear just 1 product.
It’s so hard to keep track of pheromones if you mix to much.
And it’s always fun if you see 4 sprays of just IO work like it is supposed to be.
That old bus driver didn’t stop talking to me :smiley:

What happend with 2 sprays A314?
I can wear 4 spays without any problems.
High status, a lot of respect and almost everybody seems to be happy that i made some time to talk.

With 2 sprays of a 314 it seemed that people were distant and maybe too respectful. they were grave. It might be the case that I need more offsetting and relaxing products. In addition to respect I also want to be approachable, socially open and to have a sexual component to avoid being in the friend zone for example.

So overall I would like to mix that gives respect, social appeal and sexual attraction.