Cart Before The Horse

"Some of us also get into pheromones without much interest in the science itself, but instead for practical sexual and social purposes, not to mention basic curiosity."…This is why I’m here :wink:

a) 28
b) Male
c) Wusucka, MN
d) Basically I bought the pheromones before I joined the forum and probably should have joined before hand (25$ gift). I received some AMMO as a gift I think, but it leaked all over everything including myself. Hope it washes off in the shower before I go to work. Which brings me to my first test…Got this lazy S.O.B. at work who constantly does as little as possible because we work for a “team” orientated business that has no real boss…So am gonna try my A314 and see what happens… I’m not sure though if starting to wear A314 where I’ve already been working will have the same effects as if I was a “new” guy… nothing like trying it right outta the box :slight_smile:

I purchased A314, INSTANT OPENNESS & HONESTY,TUTH, INSTANT SHINE got some AMMO for some reason too(didn’t order it)… I’m not gonna combine any of them as of yet to see what the individual reactions to me are gonna be and to better understand what each individual product brings to the table as it relates to me and my body… THIS IS GONNA BE AN AWESOME ADVENTURE :smiley:

Hey bro and welcome and congrats on the first purchase. Make sure with A314 that you back up the actions and the standards that you decide to uphold. From my experiences, it’s not as instant as you would normally get from AMMO. Repeated exposures with A314 will creat a longer-lasting respect. Don’t expect for him to change overnight, these things will take time as long as its a reasonable timeframe, you should be able to get him to proactively improve once you set your goals.

Did you have any other uses you might want to hear about?

Welcome to Pherotalk GorMas2020!,

It’s great to hear that you already have some experience with pheromones. :slight_smile:

P51Mustang has provided you with some great advice similar to congruency (acting in line with the pheromone signature that you are wearing)

I think that A14 will help a lot with your coworker- it will make him look at you like leader/authority.

Since you have already ordered pheromones I think that it is important to know about this guide on how to find your Sweet spot (the number of sprays that works best for you) by Steve:

How to find your sweet spot... (How to find your sweet spot...)

This will help you to get your BEST RESULTS and help you to really understand/ get a firm grasp on pheromones so that when You are ready to start mixing different products together you will have a good idea of how much of each product you should use.

Hope to Hear about your pheromone adventure soon

:slight_smile: ClintX2

I just read a thread on here about the “lone wolf/ Clint Eastwood effect” How do I know if my -none is already high??? Would I have to use things like cttm and others instead of like tuth??? or am I getting ahead of myself???

Unfortunately in this day and age that companies are so blinded by their own inability to succeed that they tend to blame everything on the employees. They forget there needs to be structure and systems in place and many times the best systems will come from those employees already doing the job. Innovation is created when an employee needs to get things done and figures out the best way to do it.

Then you have the boss who comes along and says I don’t like this and how its done so lets change it and do it another way. Of course, not having enough wisdom to trust and respect the innovation of his employees he destroys productivity and morale. Most of us want to do a great job and take pride in what we do. The sad state of affairs in the economy is directly related to the hands-on approaches of most bosses who don’t know how to run businesses. They come along and for no other reasons than major control issues they will virtually self destruct their own companies and when things hit the fan they look at the employees as the fault.

The whole team philosophy is really a whole lot of crap! It’s just another way to cover up someones weakness by having to do their job when because of their inefficiency everything else is screwed up. When things are great because one person took the initiative to make sure they are great they reward the team and everyone wants to take credit. You can have a company operate until it implodes with stupidity and then you get that star. He comes in and transforms all the processes and makes it work. There will be things that are beyond their scope and yet somehow it will still prosper because a foundation has been built on this persons core abilities and sheer determination and hard-work.

All of a sudden everything is running fantastic and great and then the boss thinks in his mind he is losing control, when he never had it to begin with. However, because he believes that the business, albeit running better than it ever was, is no longer in his full control (think ego) they reign everything and everyone back in, regardless if its good or bad. This creates a whole lot of disenfranchised workers who now realize, all the hard-work, all the motivational speeches, all the selling of the dream, are all just some bull-shit form of control.

Eventually the boss will hire outsiders to evaluate the company and maybe, just maybe if the company has any chance the outsider will tell the boss exactly what the employees have known and been doing to overcome the obstacles and challenges that the boss himself has created. Then sure enough the boss will praise the outsider for all the remarkable and amazing help he has given and how he has saved the company from the horrible employees. Feeling downtrodden and used as scapegoats morale will sink even lower and the employees will never really care about the job and secretly will actually do whatever they can to work less and fill those shoes the owner actually created them to fill.

I’ve seen it happen many times before and while it sucks to be a part of a “team” like that, truth be told you’re not. You need to remember to work for you and all the hype about working for the best company out there, no where else to go, every other company is bad and corrupt is just part of their control games. At the end of the day when the job is done and the boss is handing out paychecks I can bet not one of you will be thinking abut how to pay someone elses bills on that team. Look out for yourself and work for yourself. Take pride in what you do, not because of the company or the team but because you yourself are a good worker. Strive to make an impact knowing that the more someone has to preach about what a great company it is the more the are simply covering up the stench of rotten cores.

I’ve been hired to travel all over the world for companies and I can attest that the companies that succeed are the ones that ARE like zappos and not the ones who say they are LIKE them. My resume speaks volumes and I turn down jobs often because you can always tell when a company is pushing their own agenda. Zappos starts on the inside before ever even thinking about a customer. They know they have to treat their employees like gold first before their employees will never care enough to treat their customers like gold. When companies preach about how they want to make a difference and how awesome they are, “We are a team”, what they are 99% of the times are saying is we want the most amount of production for the least amount of pay. They are willing to forgo decency to get it and if that means stepping on you to do it then F*** You. It’s all about a profit and their huge egos.

Again just do your job to the best of your ability. Let everything just flow right on by. There will be times that their comments the things they do are insulting and demeaning, but always remember its about control with them. Let it go and while you are doing what you have to do to get by at your job, remember the biggest payoffs in life come from taking the biggest risks. Sometimes laughing just like my user message, under my picture, says is the absolute best payback you can do to someone. There are a whole lot of things that seem like injustices in the working world when you work for someone else. I say seem, because those things can also motivate you to move on, to take risks and leave people behind in your dust. A good businessman will always succeed. Success recognizes success.

A314 will definitely help you understand all this. Not because you need or want this guy to think you have power over him. When you allow it to bother you, then you already gave him that control. Nope A314 will help you believe in yourself enough to know that you will move on, you will be successful and most importantly, you already took a big risk. Coming here and signing up and telling us your story is that risk and I congratulate you on the first big payoff. A314 is that big payoff and net time, it will be when you start your own thing and look back at the company that failed or is perpetually failing because YOU weren’t around anymore to make it successful.

Welcome my friend, welcome. Your fellow community members are totally here for you. Many of us have been there and many more still are. Taking the next step is always the hardest thing to do. Ambition and determination will set you free.

Oh yeah and most importantly: Keep SMILING, you’ll be OK

Ummm after receiving a phone call last night and a couple of private messages I think certain people are reading this and taking it the wrong way. This is a personal story about a company called Civic Development Group (CDG) that was based in the Raritan Center in NJ and I worked for over ten years at.

I was asked to oversee and run an office in Logan WV and I turned a company office facing closure into a successful corporate model. I was cocky and damn good at what I did! The company wanted to take their rising star down a notch so after they awarded me Manager of the Year (my old avatar picture in the tux) they brought in a guy named Aaron who essentially said I was worthless and all the programs I implemented destructive to the company. Now mind you, we went from a call center with 300 seats but only 20 employees to over a thousand employees. One second late and you lost your seat for the day!

I was disenfranchised by the companies failure to recognize what I had done and subsequent demotion. I took action and put my resume on Monster and within a few months I was hired on to a company in Grenada in the West Indies. My skills, my track record personifies excellence and I am world renowned for what I do. I get companies with failing track records back on to successful tracks and make it happen.

I think some of you have the wrong perception of this post as to relating to Androtics! It has nothing at all to do with Androtics and there are no similarities at all here. Please do not go spreading these types of rumors or make those assumptions. Seriously I was kind of shocked when someone called me asking if I was alright and then getting a PM this morning “ranting” about this post. g

Someone asked for advice and I gave it to him based on a very personal experience. It’s always been how I worked. Personal experience from a world class guy. I give from my heart free and open without asking for anything. I don’t need the negativity and quite frankly I’m a little perturbed at this. Sheesh I feel silly that I even have to go and post this and feel like I want to delete my entire post. Please stop twisting my words to fit your twisted views:o.

Oh and just so you know CDG was closed down after the FTC sued them. They collected over 18 million dollars in fines: Civic Development Group to Pay $19 Million Fine & End Telephone Fundraising

Sorry but I’m a bit pissed off about even having to explain myself

Awesome post steve…but a big wtf…why didnt I get a welcome like this :stuck_out_tongue:

Sorry if I struck a nerve…loved the post though… Thanks for the warm welcome and past employer verbal beat-down… I do agree that the “team” philosophy is absolutely worthless in the workplace…

P.S. how do I partially quote someone with the blue box (this is my first online forum)

The reply button at the bottom of their post should do it automatically.

I see…when I tried it the first time I must have deleted part of the source code

Welcome to Pherotalk Gormas!

We have so many new members and posts to keep up with on the forum it’s hectic getting to all of them especially on Mondays after a busy weekend.

I am a bit piled up with gc’s but because of this you got to hear from the man himself, Steve O.

Welcome again and I know you got an ear full of wonderful advice.

Your gc was issued. :smiley:

:slight_smile:

Well you did it now, which is awesome. WELCOME!!! :smiley: