I’m glad P78 is working well for you. Its typical sensuality was definitely there! As well as the “velcro effect”. This one really makes people want to be around you.
What you called “crushy”, I call rush of excitement and that’s, imo, the best self-effect coming from P78. It just makes everything somehow more special!
I think the “second date” vibe was caused more by the IH and/or TAC.
Actually I think that I never tried that combo (P78+IH)… it might also be a good one for a ltr.
I wonder if she would have stayed longer in case you had more TUTH on…
Ive thought some more about what I described as “crushy”…it was almost like I had butterflies in my stomach. Anticipatory if that makes sense. So yeah, excitement. We were definitely connecting.
And I have to hand it to her “wingman” (Wingwoman). She wasnt herding her away from me or cockblocking as some would say. It was almost as if she was happy for her. Maybe it was affecting her also?
I have to be careful with IH as I am susceptible to its affects. It is hard to find a good application point. A few times I have put it on top of my head, towards the back, to keep it away from my face. But most of the time I wear on the back of my hands so I can secretly blow it towards people I want to affect with it.
I wore the TAC to mellow the TUTH a bit as I was trolling out in public. Wonderful stuff TAC. I know some women on here have said it had a negative affect on their libido, but I have not seen that at all in women that I have been with. Quite the opposite. Multiple and harder “O’s” abound. When she tells you to stop because she cant take it anymore, you know it is working.
I know what you mean with IH. I’m also carefull with it, that’s not one that I wear very often…
Which somehow brings me to this question: why did you choose IH for that evening?
If I would make a phero combo to go to a bar with a friend on a night that I know the whole city will be one big party, IH would for sure not be one of my choices…
Brasileira, while IH has some well known “truth serum” properties, it is also a very good buffer. IH, IO, and TAC are my goto buffers when using anything remotely sexual, or masculine.
A314 is a good example. Unless Im in a business setting where I am looking for a bit of intimidation effect, A314 alone can be unapproachable to some ladies that are traditionally shy or demure. I want women to open me. A woman opening me is the ultimate IOI in my book. If she wasnt interested in me, why even try to talk to me? Yes?
In theory, (mine) she sees me and has some level of interest, maybe likes what she sees. Then she gets the A314 cloud and gets a little more interest. Maybe this guy is worth checking out…maybe starts thinking about other things…naughty things…but…something is holding her back. You know, that filter that keeps your mouth from saying what your brain is thinking…then the IH hits and obliterates that remaining wall and she walks up and compliments me on my cowboy boots or something, and proceeds to tell me all about her life story…
I can be a little intimidating anyways as I am 6’5" tall, so buffers are a regular thing for me. There are several putatives that work well as buffers also.
I go much heavier on B-nol products like IH especially with A314 so I don’t detract from the hard hitting status that many of us love with this one. I am 5’11 though and am average build so I can see with your size toning it down a bit.
The main ones I have found to help take some of the edge off A314 are
P74-helps with bonding and make it much more approachable in low doses as anything to high like 15-20MCGS can neuter it a bit. I use 5-10MCGS
P77- helps ground it more kind of like combining IG with the A314. 10MCGS is a good dose
P96- When in any doubt I grab this one and find I can use A314/TUTH or A314/Enone and this one really ties these 2 together perfectly. I like using this setup more than the others because Enone with A314 gets me much more respect than using the A314 solo and gets the attraction as well especially with women that want a classy powerful man. 10-15MCGS of P96 works well
P131- This molecule is very similar to the P96, but also acts close to P74 also and does detract from the A314 like high P74 doses can. There is a beatifying effect with this and fallout as well. 5-10MCGS
B-nol- I use only 5MCGS and use it for very light steering of this one and this helps for my words to have a much deeper impact and be more meaningful.
These are just my favorites I use with A314 and sharing.
I used to wonder what it would be like to read or know everything on other peoples minds…
But then I got a Facebook account, and got over that real quick… …
I put things like IH and A1 on the back of the neck when I want to lessen self effects. IH to me does add comfort, trust/familiarity, and bonding besides the deep and disinhibited convos and buffering. It has the same amount of total pheros as IO, but has 3 molecules not 2 in IO, so it has a small amount of a disinhibitor and isnt just the nols 70b/30a.
I would add P130, and P86 to that list. P86 usually used at 15 or 30 people think your 20 pounds lighter, buff, and better looking but its two way so if you wake up and your 10 is now a 6 you’ll know why lol. Its unisexy. People even from 10-15 feet away turn to look at you and will even turn around if behind them. It has some touching, but most important it creates deep euphoric memories about you and encounters repeating in their minds ie imprinting…
TAC I only started using in July, and Santa already got seriously mad that I put so many of the nice girls on the naughty list last year throwing off the ratios… I hope he doesnt take me out like Mobocaster, that Jolly guy has an evil side when the ratios are off…
Of course you still have to PROPERLY stimulate the woman, she doesnt just spontaneously orgasm when you walk into her presence LOL…
Its just that her orgasms I have found sometimes to be quicker/easier and more often, more intense, and keep going longer without coming off the plateau then without… Sometimes dripping wet like a tsunami especially with the marathon tongue lol, but keep in mind that this is with currently ‘new lover/partners’… And a social, fun, almost goofy vibe makes it usable elsewhere…
Datadragon, All good recommendations…TAC doesnt make me goofy or anything like that, and it is one of my goto buffers for -none.
P83 buffers things well also surprisingly. I have P83 in 5 different doses including P83 @ 100mcg in oil that I made myself. My best guess at calculations is that my oil is running at about 40-55 mcg per drop. Lasts a good long time. Have to let it dry down for a good 30 minutes though or peoples eyes start watering. I easily get 6-7 hours out of it. Put it on, and bring on the blather!
I wore a high dose of P83, About 100mcg on Saturday night at a party. Was playing board games. 2 different tables. Our table was so loud that the other table was complaining they could hear each other. So much laughing and loud talking. Yeah…probably too much P83…Sexual innuendo galore. Not even innuendo. Penis this, vagina that, doggy style that…no filters whatsoever. Funny thing was, no one seemed to care.
Funny one here…I was in a bar saturday afternoon watching a game on TV. I started making eyes at a gal the bar, and she reciprocated. She was very cute, 30ish, brown hair.
I was wearing 30mcg P83 and one spray Ammo.
She kept catching me looking at her, and vice versa. So after about a half hour of this I decide to get up and go talk to her, but as I was just about to stand up, she got up and headed to the bathroom. So I waited for her to come out. She eventually did, but picked up her stuff and started walking around the bar towards me. As she approached, she paused by me and reaches over the bar to put her empty beer down, then slides me a note and whispers in my ear, " I have somethng to do now, but call me in an hour.." then she leaves.
An hour later I call her (Why not?, Right?) and as it turns out, she was a hooker!! Too funny. Oh well…cant win them all…
Nice to see the website back up and running. I was worried there for a while. Hopefully everyone is getting their backorders. Good time to test and catch up on my reading here on the boards…
Havent been on here for a while. Just thought I would check in. Not much to talk about as we cant get any new products. In the interim, I have changed my approach as to use with Androtics products. Instead of a daily use regimen as I have been doing for 5 years now, I have been hoarding my AD products and only pulling them out for really special occasions.
I am still on my daily regimen, but I have been using other companies products for daily use. For those of us that have put in the work to actually get to know these chemicals, and how to titrate them correctly for our uses, this has been a huge inconvenience. I have had to basically start over with new unknown products to try and matchup for the desired effects I got from AD. But I cant control these things. I still value my AD products, and that is why I am now using them sparingly. I look forward hopefully that they will return to the market, but time marches on, and I am no Spring chicken so I have to keep on, keepin on.
Its like that old '57 Chevy Bel Air classic that doesn’t run anymore. You don’t throw it away, as it still has value, and can be fixed in the future and maybe give you some future enjoyment. But I certainly don’t count on it to get me to work everyday.
I have tested P96 from another producer. It’s a good product, but it seems to bem more subtle than AD’s.
I hope they come back to business soon. Doing ALL this journey from the beginning with other products/companies really sucks! And I have no patience for other forums…
