Scotties123 Journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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I just started using Androtics mones, but I figured I’d keep a record of them here instead of making new threads.
I should add that I had used LS mones for a few months, but never noticed anything. They had no self effects and no noticed effects on others. Also, because my day mainly consists of studying, unless otherwise noted, all effects are self-effects.

What I Got:
ToGo TUTH 1.0 strength 2.5mcg
ToGo Spaceland Batch302
ToGo IS 1.1 strength 1x

Day 1: tried 2 sprays IS on neck, no self effects noticed.

Day 2: tried 4 sprays IS on neck, no self effects noticed.
few hours later tried 2 sprays spaceland on neck, no self effects noticed.
will be trying TUTH with more Spaceland and few sprays of IS later tonight.

I Need some help seeing results with social pheros (IG, IO, IS)
Consider your Leaf Stamped.
Pseudo-A314?
Meeting a girl from last night at her place: which of IJ, Ammo, IS or TUTH?
Best threads/journals to check out for a 20-year old
Hope these work
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Day 2 Continued:
So I went out last night for my bday. I had a small group of friends over then we went to the club after. It was 3 girls and 1 guy friend. Before they all got here I sprayed myself with 1 shot of TUTH to the front of my neck. I let that dry and covered it with 4 shots IS to front, back, and sides of neck. Then I added 1 shot of Spaceland to the back of my neck.

Results:
My guy friend got there about an hour before the girls did, and we just watched some tv until they got here. No effects were seen on him. He was acting like his normal self and made no remarks about how I smelled. I kind of expected this though, because we’re really good friends and we’ve known each other for like 5 years now, so I didn’t think I’d get any reaction out of him.
Then, the girls got here. One of the girls is my ex, the other two were friends of hers I hadn’t met before. Hanging out at my apartment was a blast. We were all talking, joking, laughing, just all around a great time. I cannot say whether or not this was because of mones because me, my guy friend, and my ex are all verrrrry social people that all go way back so we are naturally very comfortable around each other and joke like this often. The other two girls seemed to be having fun too, I don’t really know their personalities well enough though to compare it to how they normally are.

The club:
WOW. This was honestly the best club experience, and really one of the best nights I’ve ever had. We ordered some drinks, then I went to the restroom and hit myself with 1 spray of TUTH. You know that guy you see at clubs that has a bunch of girls dancing on him and makes you think wtf who is this guy? I was that guy lol. We were out on the dance floor the entire night. Many, many sandwich dances with girls grinding on me from every side. It was insane. At one point the girls got up on the stage and normally NO guys are ever allowed on stage, but I hopped right up there with them and nobody told me anything. The DJ even told me afterwards that he video taped it because he’s never seen that happen before where 3 hot girls are all over 1 guy that much lol. We took a little break from dancing and went back to our table. OUT OF NOWHERE one of the girls shouts to the others, hey girls its his birthday, let’s give him lapdances! This was awesome lol. We finished up at the club and the girls went home. They were going to spend the night at my place, and who knows what would have happened, but they had to be at work at 7am the next morning and it was already 1. Plus, my school is an hour away from home so the girls had a bit of a drive ahead of them already.

Conclusions:
I really don’t know if it was the mones or not. I know someone would read this and say, ya the mones did that…yup that too, but I really have no idea. We were drinking and it was my bday, so the girls may have been taking “special” care of me because of that. I should also add that I am a good looking guy, had taken a fresh shower, had a nice 5 o’clock shadow going that the girls said they loved, and I dressed very well (nice tshirt with a blazer and jeans, nice watch and necklace). What makes me think the mones had a big part in all this is that one of the girls was ALL over me the entire night, even more than the others were which was already a lot lol. She was the one that shouted lap dances. I wish I knew what she was usually like because then I could make a better call on whether or not it was the mones. Ill hit myself with some TUTH and see what it does to some classmates to see if it’s the reason I had such a great night.

Lets have some fun guys & girls! (and maybe win some prizes)
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Very nice reports! Please keep testing and report back more!

As for the pheromones, read this:

It’ll help you understand what to expect from pheromones. You have to realize that the pheromones only play 1 part for you. Of course, you still have to play the other part as you’ve mentioned. They’re great for bringing down barriers, making you more approachable, and having you stand out. But you still have to work out it. And you seem to hint at that in your last post. :slight_smile:

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Day 3:
1 spray Spaceland to front of neck
2 sprays IS to sides of neck

Self effects: nothing

Effects on others: nothing.
I was in the library for pretty much the entire day today, but around many people and sat directly next to several friends. No remarks on smell, no changes in behaviour, nothing. I was slightly worried about all that -nol turning into -none by the end of my 14 hour study day (i hate med school), but figured it would be a social experiment at the least. However, nothing noted even after an entire day, which im sure is plenty of time for the nol to convert. No negative effects, no positive effects.

Conclusion:
I know it’s still early, but this is how my LS mones adventure started off and it ended with me being highly disappointed after 3 months of using mones. I can only hope my next trials work better. I’ll use a few sprays of Spaceland and see what happens.

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Here’s the thing, Spaceland is an abnormally high concentration of mones so it may have negative effects as well. I think a product such as IO or maybe IH will work better for you. Maybe even CTTM2 which is 50/50.

But do let us know. Also if you have questions post them in the general Men’s forum. The journals section gets a lot less attention unfortunately

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Thanks for the response Knowledge. Glad to have someone taking part in helping me figure this stuff out.
Yesterday I tried to purposely OD to see SOMETHING happen from mones. I hit myself with two shots of Spaceland to the front of my neck and kinda rubbed it with both wrists around my neck. Around tons of people all day at the library. Nothin. No self effects, no effects on friends, nothing noticed from strangers.
And as I recently posted on LeafStomp’s journal, I know how to read people so that isn’t the issue here. My school pretty much trains us on how to read patients’ body language and facial expressions, so I know when something is different. I don’t know anymore…
Domnk mailed me a half togo of AMMO and a couple other togos. They arent here yet but from what ive read about ammo, it might be better for me than what ive been using.
Unless I start noticing something, ill probably just call it quits for pheromones. Not saying they dont work, but dont seem to be seeing much myself. might just be my body chemistry.

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You’re doing very good my friend reporting. Just because no one has really commented does not mean we are not reading. In fact Aegis , bchimp* , crazybeat116 , crewchief182 , Cronixia , dabrom , evolver , grida , guess15794 , jerec99 , JJ54 , jpjpjp , KnowledgeIsPower , LeafStamp , LissieLexie* , lukus , Maidenfan01 , Michael721 , Rainfleet , sanantonio31 , scotties123 , sgt , Snoopyace , Spendios , spicehot , stud , Tessa , tezza23 , thisistheendgame , thr3shold , Warm_It_Up_Chris

have all read your journal. Pretty popular if you ask me :slight_smile:

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You should call the HOTLINE

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Thanks Steve. My schedule is pretty crazy, but I will when I get a chance. I appreciate the help.

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The stuff Domnk sent me came in. Thanks again Domnk, you’ve been awesome. He sent me IJ, AMMO, and TUTH, all half to-gos. I was supposed to try them out last night, but a doctor I’m doing research with decided to call me at 9:30 PM, as I was leaving to go pre-drink with some friends, to tell me he needed me in the next morning at 6am :open_mouth:. Needless to say, it not only put a stop on me trying the mones out, it kept me from going out at all and ended up calling it an early night. I was tempted to still go and hang out for at least an hour, but I went back home for the day and it’s an hour drive to get back to my school where the research is taking place. So I figured it would be best not to chance things. Hoping that maybe I can go to the bars or something tonight. If I do, I’ll probably use a couple sprays of AMMO, a shot of IJ, and a whole mess of IS. I am looking very forward to using the AMMO. It seems that people my age have the best results with this mone, so I’m hoping it really turns things around for me.

EDIT: Thought I’d add something I just remembered and find quite interesting. Yeterday, I was in the library studying like usual and a friend of mine comes and sits by me like she usually does. She has a serious boyfriend, and me and her are just really good friends. Anyways, we’re sitting there studying and I notice after a couple minutes she starts getting all giggly and weird like a 5 year old. Talking to herself outloud to get my attention, giggling every few seconds for no reason. I teased her about it and asked her what she’s been smoking. She was like this for at least an hour until I told her to shutup, but in a joking way (I had to study lol). Later in the day, I was at the barber waiting to get my haircut. So I’m just sitting there waiting and this guy around my age comes and sits by me. We start talking to pass some time and out of nowhere he starts showing me some pictures on his cell phone. Pics of naked girls that he’s apparently been with. And a bunch of other pictures all with an undertone of “I’m trying to impress you for some reason.” The reason I mention these two events is because I was NOT wearing any mones at the time. Had I been, I definitely would have contributed these things to the mones.

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Went out last night. It was a good night, but I feel like it could have been much better. I left my place to meet up some friends at one of their apartments. Before leaving I hit myself with 1.5 sprays of IJ spread between the insides of both forearms, and 4 sprays IS, 3 to the neck and 1 to the chest. I brought the ammo with me to use before going into the club because I wanted it to be “fresh”.

Self effects:
I was in a really good mood on the drive over there, but I usually get like this before going out. Probably because it’s so hard to nowadays. I think IJ smells great. IS is decent, but for some reason IJ just smells awesome.

Results:
I tried going into this night with the mindset of don’t expect anything, just have fun and let whatever happens, happen.

Bar 1: dead, so we left

Bar 2: this place was a bar/club type place with a small dancefloor. Before walking into this place I hit myself with 2 sprays of AMMO to both sides of my neck. LOTS of people here. Older crowd, grad students mainly, I’d say 24-30. I knew this place was a little bit of an older crowd than the undergrads I’m usually at the bar with, so I wasn’t worried about an OD from 2 sprays. Plus, it’s a smoky and busy bar so I figured I’d need at least 2. Nothing really noticed here. I was being as perceptive as I could in a crowded place. I opened up a few sets, talked with several girls, but didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary with their behavior. We called it quits on this place and decided to check somewhere else.

Club: Pretty decent number of people here. Same age range as before. Went into the bathroom and sprayed myself with 1 more spray of AMMO. Kind of missed though, so only half of it landed on me. Did my usual, talked to a few girls, but again nothing out of the ordinary noticed. One of my friends is a shy guy and I noticed he was pretty much just hanging in the background. I opened a set of 3, talked to them for a few minutes, then called him over to get him in the action. After a little while he started dancing with one of the girls, but the friends she had with her ended up being her married sisters :frowning:. The crappiest part about it is they kept trying to c-block my friend while he was dancing, and I couldn’t even wing because they wouldn’t dance with me. It wasn’t just me though, they wouldn’t let another friend dance with them either. Well, it was getting late and I had to be up early for more research stuff, so we decided to leave. The friend that was dancing was about to leave without even getting that girls number, so I kinda took him back over to her and told her she should bring some friends and come hangout with us later on and have some drinks at my friends place. She said yea, and my friend got her number (and ended up getting more than that later :wink:).
Walking back to the car, there were a couple cute girls walking past us so I talked to them for a little. Ended up getting one of their numbers and she made me promise to call her lol. I got back to my apartment and was realllly tired and ready to just crash, then she calls me. I guarentee I could have gotten some play from her right then, but I wasn’t even in the mood for it at that point. Told her I’d call her tomarrow to do something.

Conclusion:
Overall, it was a good night. I had fun and got some much needed relaxation in. The only problem, I honestly don’t feel like the mones did anything tonight. This was a very typical bar/club night for me. I usually talk to several girls, have no problem at all approaching groups of girls by myself, and the night typically ends with a number or two. I didn’t have anyone getting closer to smell my neck, or anything like that. Didn’t notice any more kino than I usually get. Didn’t get any DIHLs. Didn’t notice any subtle hints like girls walking past me several times, or standing closer to me and “waiting” for me to approach them. No extra hair flipping or skin rubbing. I just don’t think these things work for me. I was really hoping to get some good results with the AMMO. I didn’t expect girls to just jump all over me. I was honestly just hoping for a few subtle clues here and there to show me this stuff works for me. I don’t think I’ll be pursuing pheromones after my supply runs out. Just doesn’t make sense. There might be a certain mone out there that is perfect for me, but I dont have the time or money to try and find it. I’m living on student loans and can’t spend hundreds of dollars to buy and test things out. I’ll keep reporting with what mones I still have. Hopefully, things will turn around before I run out.

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Another day at the library. Just FYI, although I may be here basically everyday, I’m usually around different people, except for a couple friends I always study with. It’s a busy library too, so different people usually come in and out throughout the day. I pretty much have people around me throughout the entire day.

So up until now I’ve been spraying everything on my neck (other than the IJ with IS cover I put on my forearms in my last report). I figured I’d try a shot to the hair, so I applied 1spray Spaceland to the top of my head.

Self effects: None. I didn’t have any when I sprayed it on my neck, so it’s expected that I’d get none from spraying it on my head.

Effects on others: None.

Conclusion: the same as before. more reporting to come, but not enough results to make me happy.

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Went out last night to the bar. Age group was 20-25. I’ve been using different application points lately to see if I could get any results this way.
1 Spray IJ: spread betweeen inside of forearms and back of wrists
1 Spray Spaceland: top of head
6 Sprays IS: 1 over IJ on forearms, 3 to front and sides of neck, 1 to back of neck, 1 on top of head over Spaceland
1 Spray AMMO: Jawline applied with wrists

Self Effects: Light headed for about 3 seconds after IS sprays, probably due to the high alcohol content. Other than that, nothing.

Effects on Others: Crowded bar, tons of people really close together. Opened a few sets, talked to some girls, they would talk but seemed like they were holding back. No extraordinary IOIs. Even while waiting to get into the bar, I was paying special attention to the girls standing near me, but didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. I got a phone number at the end of the night, 27 year old. Met her in the parking structure right before getting in the car to leave.
The only thing that happened that I thought was odd was that I seemed to be getting more respect from guys than I usually do at crowded bars and clubs.
Example 1: Waiting in line at the bathroom (yes ladies guys have to wait in line sometimes too :smiley:) and there were two guys smoking in the line. Another guy walks up behind me and gets in line, and asks me if it’s ok if he has a cig. I told him no problem, he thanked me, and had one. Thought this was a little odd.
Example 2: Standing around by the bar just taking in the scenary, a guy comes by and asks if he can walk by, I let him pass by me. Then he says, “I’m sorry, is it ok if my friend gets through too?” I laughed a little and said yeah of course. I backed up so his friend could get by, and as he’s walking by he apologizes and starts explaining why he had to get through. This was odd for me because most people just walk by or will just tap me on the shoulder to make some room.
Example 3: Throughout the entire night, it seemed like a lot of guys were going out of their way to make sure it was okay if they walked past me.
Apparently though, I didn’t have the same effect on the bouncers because after waiting about 45 min to get in (every place was this busy last night) the bouncers let my friend in and then don’t let me in because apparently they were at capacity. Tried to tell them we were waiting in line for almost an hour and were there together, but they didn’t care.

Conclusion: I’m not really sure. After seeing some of the effects this had on other guys, I was starting to think I may have somehow built my own psuedo-A314. Even with girls, I was getting effects similar to what people report with A314. Starting to run low on to-go IS and AMMO, so I may not be able to do too much more testing with these. Still haven’t gotten significant results for me to invest big money into mones. We’ll see how other trials go.

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Since you have been doing such a BANG-UP job reporting, even though you are still below the posted minimum requirements I am bumping your status up a notch to Reporting User :slight_smile:.

Any man that puts that much effort into it is well deserving so congratulations and keep it up.

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I can’t thank you enough Steve. I’ve just been trying to do my part in the phero community and provide what I can about what I could. Oom has informed me that he has sent me a couple to-gos for me to try out and I’m really looking forward to doing some more testing. I also plan on getting some IG soon, so hopefully I can get into the swing of things and find what works with my body chemistry. Thanks again to Steve and Oom. More reports to come soon.
I will also be calling in the HOTLINE within the next week or so, as you suggested pretty recently. I have an exam on Monday, so it’ll most likely be Monday or Tuesday afternoon.

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You’re doing great

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Sorry it took so long, I’ve finally gotten around to reading your journal.
Good reports, keep it up.

:slight_smile: Now subscribed. :slight_smile:

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Happy to have you on board :slight_smile:. I’ve been thinking quite a bit about how to approach using mones. What I’ve been doing hasn’t been working so it’s time to try something a bit different (for me at least). Instead of trying to find out what works, I think I’m going to try and find out what DOESN’T work instead. Based off what forum members told me, I made some type of super-ammo during my last experience, from which I definitely noticed some things out of the ordinary. While it may have worked against me as far as meeting women is concerned, I certainly gained some respect from Men. So my new plan is is to start high and work my way low. This entire time I’ve been trying to avoid an OD, but I think I really need a few to get things into perspective for me. Being middle-eastern I think my body chemistry is much more different than most peoples’. I’ve never noticed self effects (except IJ makes me smile because it smells AMAZING :smiley:) so I feel that I’m really going to have to depend on OD effects to gauge my mone levels. Let’s see what happens…

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Another usual day for me at the library. Hit myself with 2 sprays Spaceland to the top of the head. Made the mistake of putting it on before driving there, and I always drive with the windows down so I probably blew away most of the mones :o. Either way, noticed a little something while studying.

Self effects: None (I never seem to get any self effects from anything :confused:, might just be how I’m wired)

Effects on others:
Before my mone experimenting began, I always sat in a seccluded little corner of the library, so I could focus without the distraction of people walking in and out, and seeing everyone I know. However, to gauge the effects of mones I’ve been studying in a more crowded area of the library. I’ve had to listen to light music to drown out talking amongst other students, and this may have contributed to me not noticing very many effects, such as people initiating conversations and whatnot. Plus, it’s a library so I never expected more than very subtle hits. I digress…I have a big exam on monday so I went back to my former corner to get some good uninterrupted studying in. Typically, this corner is empty and I’m almost always the only person studying there. I noticed today that there were quite a few girls huddling around me. It started with one, who I looked up and smiled at and she smiled back, but I had too much studying to take care of so I got back to the books. Slowly but surely, I noticed over the course of a couple hours a couple other girls started studying pretty close to me. Didn’t pay attention to IOIs because of the bookwork, but this is definitely interesting because I’ve been studying in this corner for almost a year now and the only other time this happens is when it’s a group of students that are working together that happen to sit near me. These girls were clearly each alone and not with each other.

Conclusion: YAY! I got the subtle effects I’ve been hoping for. The fact that this has never happened before wants me to say it was the mones, but I have always been a man of fact and I want to do some further investigation into this to say for sure it was the mones. I think I’ll repeat this tomarrow and see what happens. I actually have a small group meeting tomarrow and haven’t moned them up yet so I think I’ll try it on them.

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Today’s observations are best described using a time scheme, due to added sprays throughout the day.

10:00am
1 spray TUTH to chest under white beater and shirt.
1 spray AMMO to center of neck spread to sides with wrists
4 sprays IS all around neck (front, back, sides)

Self Effects:
I felt happy :slight_smile:. In an overall good mood. The only other time I felt like this after using mones was when I went to the club several weeks ago and used IJ and AMMO. I have a feeling it’s the -none that’s doing it. I don’t think it’s the IS because when used alone, I don’t get the same effects, but AMMO, IJ, and TUTH seem to make me smile. I am contributing this happiness to the mones because it was raining pretty bad when I left my apartment (might have washed a bit of mone off) and usually when it’s rainy out I feel tired, depressed, and annoyed. But for some reason (probably the mones), I felt really upbeat and happy. The rain didn’t bother me at all. Some moron almost hit me on the road and I usually have VERY bad road rage, but this time I just thought to myself that she was an idiot, and that was that. These self effects lasted about 15-20 minutes.

Effects on others:
In the library. Back to my little seccluded corner. Nothing noticed, but this was expected.

12:30pm
1 spray IS added to jaw, spread across jawline with wrists

Self effects:
I could still smell the AMMO and it was nice. But no effects from it after that initial 15 or so minutes after application. No self effects from the added IS.

Effects on others:
This was my first time using mones before a small group meeting. Three times a week, I meet with 6 other students and a doctor group leader and we discuss patient cases. I have a very good rapport with everyone in the group, and we all have a great amount of respect for each other and each other’s opinions. I figured it would be nice to see how they react to a “different me”. Well, we sit around a square table, about 7ft. wide, and the usual seating arrangements are an indian girl on my right, the doctor group leader on my left, and everyone else about 4-7 ft. away from me around the table. Today we had a substitute group leader, which I am very happy about because I probably wouldn’t have seen what I did if we didn’t. Allow me to explain. The substitute sat in the usual seat of a caucasian girl, thus forcing her to sit next to me rather than across the table like she usually does. We will call this girl “A” and the indian girl “B”. As the meeting progressed, I noticed that A started leaning closer to me in her chair. It reached a point that she moved her seat a little bit closer to mine and leaned in so close that her head was almost touching mine, with me leaning back in the center of my chair. I also noticed that she was constantly playing with her hair, rearranging it, playing with it some more. She has always worn it straight down, with it blocking both sides of her face. After fidgeting around with it for quite some time, she brushed her hair to her left, so that her face was completely exposed to me. Definitely calling that a hit. I had also noticed throughout the meeting, that B was doing something similar. She wasn’t playing with her hair, but she was defintely sitting a bit closer to me, and leaning towards me in her seat. Furthermore, she was wearing a sweater over one of those tanktop shirts (i don’t know what it was, im a guy lol), and I noticed in my peripheral vision that she purposely pulled the left side of the sweater down, exposing her shoulder and a bit of her chest to me :smiley:. In addition to all of this craziness, I could see that A was turning her head and just looking at me every few minutes. She is also normally pretty quiet during these meetings, but today she was agreeing with everything I said.

6:00pm
1 spray Spaceland to top of head

Self effects:
None. Wasn’t expecting any from adding to the top of my head, and I usually don’t get anything from Spaceland anyways.

Effects on others:
At this point I was back in the library, but as it’s a friday there were less people around so I sat in the center area instead of my seccluded corner. There were still several people around, but didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary, although I was really focused on my books.

Conclusions:
I am really happy I’m starting to see self effects. The only thing that worries me is that it seems only -none gives me them. Just worried that I might get a string of ODs in an effort to get self effects. Some more tweaking is definitely needed to find that right amount and balance. Perhaps just some further buffering to prevent OD.
As for the effects on others, I am so happy I am starting to see the wonderful effects of pheromones. I was getting a little discouraged and this was definitely what I needed to keep me in the pheromone groove. I wasn’t worried about ODing from TUTH and AMMO because at this point, I would have been happy seeing OD effects rather than nothing at all, and had actually planned on purposely ODing and working my way backwards to find the right amount needed. I have an exam on Monday, but after it’s done I’m going to get me some IG and try to find an MX (that’s in stock) or two for me to try out.