Centaurs "Here Be Mones" Journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
1

Went to work with a combo of A314x2 and ISx1.

I work in a hosp and have been there for a year.. so in theory I probably wouldn’t be able to tell very much as these people already have an idea about me and the mones should take longer to set in. Either way, I felt the mones gave me a very pleasant self effect I like. Confident, calm, open..

I noticed people where much calmer around me, and yes, I did notice a bit of the “respect” vibe from people, but its hard to tell as I get a healthy amount of that anyway. So here are the “hits” I noticed

  1. A very surly and quiet nurse I work with- black, 50s- was suddenly talkative and jokey with me. Not alot, but enough for me to realize how unusual that was for her. She usually says less than two words before noon, and yet she seemed in a very good mood and making jokes to me. If it was the mones, I like what they do to her!
    2.A patient walks in and yells in a loud voice- “look at your sexy self sitting there all hot and stuff!” I was taken aback. She is fun and playful, but the comment was definitely a bit out there- even for her.
    3.A aptients family member- older- maybe early 50s late 40s would not stop staring at me. literally. I was starting to get self conscious. Mostly because she was unattractive! That was weird.
  2. The one person I was really hoping to get the most reaction out of- another worker from a different dept I’ll call Dwas chatty and joky with me, but she usually is with me. Couldn’t tell if it was having an effect or if it was just one of our playful days. She is 35.
  3. The oddest of all. My boss is a very bitchy female- domineering, a bit strange and a real hard person to get a read on. She came in and reacted very negatively to me. I had previously had an issue and she got very agro with me about it. Literally sneering at me when she thought I wasn’t looking.
    At first I thought about it and thought it was just the situation, but then I though it made sense. She was the boss there.. she already has enough of a hard time being seen as “the boss”.. which may explain her past luke wam attitude with me. Male bosses tend to admire subordinates with alpha traits, but maybe this just made me more threatening to her.
    So I had an idea to use to refresh sprays of IS and talk to her in private. Here is the thing- she acted completely differently. I explained my situation to her in a calm and open way and she was very receptive the moment I walked in her office. Going out of her way to be nice and understanding.. if it was an act, it was oscar worthy, she really seemed to soften up. To em this was the biggest hit of the day. Two hits of IS and she was comletely different. Did the softening effect of IS do the trick?

Time will tell…
Tomorrow I plan on using mx297 at work since it is a Saturday which is like a play day for us and a much lighter mood all around.

2

I think I got mt first BIG HIT.. But I’ll get to that in a sec…
I started the day with AMMOx1, ISx2 and A314x2
It was a workday, but Saturdays are kinda lax and the hosp dept I work in, so I wanted to see how things would go. There was an obvious difference today. Many of the women I work with where easier to deal with, nicer and wanted to speak with me. They were very very nice and compliant as well. The day went rather smoothly. What I did notice is that guys were a bit more distant and respectful, rather than the usual “lets hang out” vibe I get from guys alot.
At lunch I hit the AMMO one more time to see what would happen.
I think I was approaching OD territory- at least as far as men where concerned. No big hits when I went out fr lunch but there was one women who wouldn’t take her eyes off of me. Wasn’t really sure if it was the mones though as I do get looks like that from time to time.

A friend invited me out with some of his friends.. turns out they were trying to set me up with some girl. I scrubbed clean and went with MX297, Ammo and IS two shots if each.
The self effect were wonderful. I was tired, but I still felt a nice buzz and I got in a very social mood.
So the night was interesting- especially a friends wife commenting on how good I smelled and great I was etc. I don’t even know them that well. she was pretty flirty too. The girl they were trying to set me up with liked me- this was obvious immediately. But I wasn’t interested.
The big hit was this. On the train I was getting some interesting reactions from women- but there was this one brunette- super super hot. I walk in and her head shoots up after a second and looks right at me. it was like she got hit by a ton of bricks. I get looks, but this was ridiculous. She was smiling, looking at me and looking away, playing with her hair..she couldn’t seem to keep very still or help looking my way, which I would catch.
So I sat next to her and you could almost see her squirm! Wow! Did I say she was hot? 8-9 territory. So I lean over and tap her on the thigh
“excuse me, I rarely come this way.. is this the train to…”
eye to eye lockdown..Instense..so intense it was hard to hold her gaze until she broke it, flustered and smiling…
“I don;t know, let me look it up”
me “would you please?”
so we talk for a second and it turns out, I am on the wrong train! she tells me I have to take another train at the next stop of go all the way back to the station I got on at. Ooops.. as she says that we pull up to the station… no time to get number, so I tell her “I’m glad I got lost” and smile at her as I get up..
as I leave she says “me too”.. we both wave to each other as the train pulls out.
I should have gotten the number immediately..even if it meant staying on the train. I was just in such a state of shock at her reaction to me, I was completely dumbstruck. I get looks, I get IOIs, but never so blatant and never so easily. It was weird. and awesome.
That had to be the mones… right?

Anyway, the mx297,IS, Ammo vibe is awesome. I liked what it did all night.

3

I wanted to write here once a week, but things got busy.. Just a recap of my adventures up to now.
A314- at work is where I am mostly using this. I wrote about this earlier in another thread so I won’t go too far into it. But ti sum up. Men seems a little more distant, my boss more angry with me, and one female coworker did a complete “what is going on with you?” thing.
After writing about it here Tish and Mobo explained that she was probably confused, having felt she knew me already and was re-evaluating me. Well, the re-evaluation must have been good, cause she is dropping heavy hints and asking me alot about my personal life these last few days. Makes me kind of sad we work in the same place- cause I kind of dig her. Very cool, funny, pretty, great body.. maybe its not a bad thing? Heh, I digress.
After a week, alot of the guys seemed to have become more comfortable again. I’m really liking the effect. I also like how it makes me feel- more balanced, more confident and sure of myself.

Ammo- summer ed-
The first night I wore this I also had p275 on. On the way to a party, on the train I got an amazing IOI from a very hot, 30ish woman on the train. I started talking to her and she was extremely receptive. Her IOIs though were insanely pronounced. That night was a fun night and all my friends and people I met seemed to be in a very good mood around me.
I ahve worn this a few times since, most notably on a date with B. B is mid 30s, hot, eastern european… we’ve been intimate. I went to her place with only ammo on.. she.would.not.shut.up. Really, it was crazy and not like her. She even asked me to shut her up a few times.. I had no other mones on me to try and steer it back somewhere useful.. amazingly, I did not get laid ON A SURE THING. Aaargh..
I think I have to add something to this. But I still havent had as much exposure as I would like.. we’ll see

IS- have used once or twice, but it makes me kind of spacy, so no good for work. I like the self affect, just not so much when you got to get things done.

Well, one week in. One thing I am almost sure of is mones DO have an effect. I just have to figure out what works for me and how. I suspect a long learning curve here.

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great stuff - keep it coming :slight_smile:

5

Well time to review my weeks experiments
A314: I’ve continued to use this at work. Usually one shot, to the center of throat. I think most of my coworkers have gotten used to the “change” I am still getting all the signs of respect and alphaness, but the guys all seem to be more comfortable again.. but with a slight difference than before.
The big change has come with the one coworker I’ve mentioned before-D. D has just become completely blatant in her attraction to me at this point. I should mention I have steered the A314 with some ammo or socials as I thought might seem appropriate. She has admitted to “listening” for the sound of me walking by her dept and says she is bummed when she is on at work and I am not. This is all very very new behavior that started after the mones. She was attracted but wary before.. not anymore.
She also have gotten touchy which is very odd… but nice :wink: She all but forced her phone number on me and mentioned getting a drink. Man I really don’t want this mess at work, but I LIKE her. 'm gonna get into trouble me thinks. :slight_smile:
Another woman- an asian lady who I just found is married is always talking to me now and looking me straight in the eyes and smiling alot. While I think I caught her peaking at me before, she was mostly oblivious to me. Now she is putting out alot of IOIs.
A314 really works for me.

Ammo- again, lots of looks with ammo, but I am convinced it is a great opener, but a bit of a cockblocker once the time to do the dead has arrived. I have been dating a regular- I’ll call her V . V is a sure thing, we’ve done it almost every other time we got together… but every time wear ammo around her she becomes a non stop talking machine.
one caveat is I assume its the ammo- as I tend to also have a bit of a314 on me whenI see her- mostly as a left over from the morning. I tried to steer it back to the sexual with TUTH, but by then I was SOL. Next time I see her I think I’m going with TUTH and A314 and no ammo- see how that works with her. This is the second time I was with her and no action. Its crazy I tell you!

IH- I used IH on one or two occasions at work and with a friend.. I am still not sure how to use it though. Is it making people talk? or making them trust you thus making them talk more easily? I think how it works may help me use it better. I do notice an effect, but its subtle. Maybe I just need to hit ti 2x? I’ve been using one spray.

There should be some good opportunities coming this week. I assume I should use one togo product at a time with V, but I need to get her back into the hysical pronto. So next time its TUTH and a314.. will update then,

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If she asked me to shut her up I would have made her lips busy with mine haha :cool:

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Is it Summer 2012 AMMO? There are quite a few reports from other stating that the 2012 edition seems to be a very chatty social mix.

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YEah, its the summer edition. I’ve come to see it as more of an opener mix and less of a “lets get to business” mix. Especially on V… she completely changes into to excessive talk mode. Its wild.

9

This weeks report leaves little for me t report on. I had two very bad incidents occur to me at work which left my health at risk- as you can imagine, the stress was overwhelming. So Any mones use was tainted by me being very very stressed out all week,
Thankfully, it turns out I should be fine, but it was very scary.
I did use mones anyway, as I figured there might be something to learn from seeing them in action under different conditions.

The most interesting reaction happened after the crisis had passed, so stress ws not a factor. I wore a314x1, ammosex2, and ISx1 to see the same group of friends I saw two weeks ago. Back then I used ammo+mx275 and it was a very happy, fun time. This time I noticed that my two friends wives were just as welcoming and friendly as ever, whereas my best freind was very subdued around me and kept remarking how “solid” I was and how much I’ve changed for the better, etc etc..he said I looked calm and steady. This was he first time I used a314 around him and he seemed to like what it did for me.
The most interesting reaction was my other friend. I don’t know him as well, but we always click, his wife as well really likes me. This time he seemed annoyed and put off by me..I think the a314 was throwing him off. I also noticed he was watching his wife around me like a hawk- which was new. She and I get along real well- but definitely NOT in sexual way, we just get each other. This time it seemed to bother him.
Funny.
I also got minimal IOIs from women that night. I think the crowd was too young for a314 and ammo. I’d get looks, but they’d keep their distance. This happened on the train as well, women would look, but immediately drop their eyes and withdraw if I noticed them. Except for the older women, and a young asian girl who plopped herself right in front of me.

I also experimented with a314 and IH as well as IS at work. Especially around my boss since I know she finds the a314 vibe threatening. I’ve found that the IS really makes people remark about my looks alot- how well I must have slept the night before, or how happy I seem, or how I must get all the girls etc. The IS is interesting, because I really see myself as handsome or as good looking as others seem to see me. But I did notice myself happy to see myself in the mirror and thinking “hey you look good today” which is a really strange thing for me to say to myself. lol… It really helped lighten my hell week.

IH really softens by boss up. combo’d with the a314 I find that she becomes much more open to me and smiley. Whereas a314 just makes her bitchy as hell towards me.

Finally I used a314,ammo,and IH around my coworker I mentioned before “D”. I swear she should be a mones test subject because every mones I wear around her just HITS her -dead on- every time. I was on my way out and passing her office. I had 2xIH early since I knew I’d be seeing her. I stop at the door for a quick “good night” and she starts small talk, keeping me there at her door. Boom, she starts in on stuff going on with her and that we really need to get meet up for a drink so we can talk, and why am i telling you all this? etc etc. Really awesome, but nice. Really nice vibe to it all with her.
It may be the mones, but I’d like to get to know better too. She is delicious…

10

A few more thoughts.
I received my p83, IG, regular Ammo, IO yesterday along with more a314 since I am running low.
I can’t wait to try them all out. But I do have a problem- I know I should be testing things solo to learn what they do… but with so many things to try it would take forever to try them all alone. Its a bit of a mission. I need to find a place near my home where I can go often to test out the mones. I’m going scouting tonight :wink:

11

Thought I should put this in the journal as well:

Went out today to specifically test Summer Ammo. 2x to the sides of the neck.

Went to a coffee shop first (thinking maybe I’ll get a free coffee too!)
The waitress was blonde, mid 20s probably. Didn’t get much of a reaction at first as she seemed kind of dour. After a few minutes I did notice her being more smiley and ttentive, but not by much. Another patron- woman in her late 20s probably, I caught looking a few times. Not much more than the normal attention I’d expect to get so far.

So I went to a park where a jazz band was playing and sat for a bit. Eventually a young, red-dyed punkish looking girl sits right next to me. Odd since almost all the benches were empty. Caught her looking a bit, so I said high, but she hid her head and spent the next 30 minutes sneaking peaks out of the corner of her eye, but not otherwise very responsive when I tried to open her. Maybe some Instant Openness would have helped her as she seemed a bit nervous. Yet she stayed right there next to me.

Not much more attention as I went about until I got on a train. I noticed two girls eyeing me, again young. I would have opened, but by then I felt a bit passive and over it. lol. Young girls can be so tiring sometimes to talk to. I have to be in the mood and I think the Ammo s.e. just mellows me out.

So far ammo s.e isn’t doing much for me. The women I am dating seem to never shut up when I wear it, and the younger girls I attract with it on become lurking clams who won’t talk. I got regular ammo now, so I am taking that for a spin soon. Maybe it’ll work better for me.

12

I’ve been on vaca for two weeks in Miami, and things have been crazy, which is why I haven’t been able to post. But I am thinking this may be the best way to do this anyway, since I get to post more than just individual events and can focus on the overall effects I have noticed for each mone.

Ammo se- Yeah, this one just doesn’t work for me. I definitely notice the younger girls looking, and you get complimented on the scent, but it never seems to go anywhere. I just don’t think it fits my style of “game”. What I have found is the need to add TUTH to it for it to really shine. With TUTH it works for me much much better.

Ammo- while I find the scent a bit strong, this works much better for me. Its more aggressive, cool and intense, which is how I think my first impressions tend to be to others. I also prefer women in the late 20s to mid 30s and this really shines there. I re-ordered it already as I finally wore it out once I started using it. Combines with A314 or Tuth or p83 this sings for me. I was at a bar in Miami Beach the other day and there where two girls on a date, one was being worked on by a dude. When I walked in the girls seemed to be digging these guys. I watched from my perch at the bar, and little by little they slowly started looking at me more and more. Sneaking glances, and even got as bold as to smile when the guys went to the restroom. Their body language with these guys- which at first showed interest, slowly changed to distant, while the began to face my direction and sneak glances. It was very cool. This was 1xa314, 2xammo, and 2xp83. A glorious mix.

p83. I love this putative. I’ve heard its a dis-inhibitor, but I think its something women just like so much that they drop all pretense. It says sexy and safe at the same time, so they feel comfortable opening up and showing interest. It amplifies anything I wear it with. IH, IO etc.. always compliments and never detracts. I LOVE IT.

TUTH- works better for me than ammo or ammo se. I love adding it to ammo or something like IH. that combo, I think, disarms women very well. and it tends to describe me in a way- very sexual but very intimate as well. Breaking through the intensity of it is the biggest issue, but it works wonders.

A314- what more can be said about a314. I sometimes just spray myself with it at home to get that feeling. But I am finding that the a314 attitude is sticking to me even when I don’t wear it. I like mixing it with ammo and IH. a small shot of TUTH under the shirt for when things get intense..

My favorite mix thus far: 1xA314, 1Xammo, 2xIH- all on the neck. P83x1 on forearms and later on some TUTH if the event calls for it. Sometimes I double up on ammo and p83

IG- does nothing for me. well, it works, but not in a way I desire. Its kind of a nice guy vibe and I got that to a large extent anyway.
mx275- same as above, its nice, but a bit too nice.

With both of these I find TUTH is a MUST HAVE. Its either that or its friend zone. another nice mix I tried once and need to try again is 1xTUTH, 1Xmx275
and 1xammo. sexy yet popular. But still too “friendly” maybe double the TUTH? I got almost the whole bottle, so I’ll experiment.

IS- I like it but hate the crash. I don’t seem to be building a resistance to it, but I use so rarely because I cant afford the crash that inevitably comes. Need to build a tolerance though, because it is a very nice vibe.

IO- will somebody shut people up!!! I cant use it. I don’t have the patience for the endless chatting that ensues.. but I do add it to TUTH or AMMO to add approach ability. So I respect its uses. I will re-order it because it very useful to have at hand.

I tell you, if it wasn’t for the fact that I am hung up on a girl I’ve been dating “more on that later”, I’d be cleaning up with this stuff. Family, friends, coworkers, etc. It has taken my relationships where I want it to go. Its so much fun I almost… almost, but not quite… feel guilty.

13

Received my p97, p83 and p95 yesterday morning. So I figuerd it was time to keeep track of the results of these experimental putatives.

To start I immediately hit myself with 1xp97 as I’ve been wanting to try this one out for a while now as a possible addition to my BF mix. For the record, I am not just interested in “hits” as much as I am interested in taking my current relationship to the next level. But I do keep my eyes out for hits.. it doesn’t hurt :wink:

So I dose up and I don’t get much of a self effect. I think I feel a little more down and anxious, but if so barely noticeable. I hang around like this for a while but no dramatic effects take place. I eventually plan on leaving to go see my aunt and cuz and add to this my regular day to day mix of 1xa314, 2xIH and for good measure I add another shot of p97.
I get in the car and start driving and as I do I notice I feel absolutely great. I feel better and better as I drive. Music is turning me on and I am feeling better about a few things that have been bugging as of late. When I arrive at my fams place I feel good and they seem to either pick up on it or react to it.. but I realize they are not usually as “close” to me, They seem a bit more disconnected than we usually are. It may just be the day, as its just once, but It felt a bit odd. and surprising since I felt so good earlier. a few hrs later I noticed my patience was shorter with them and it was me who was a bit put off by little things, and yet I felt good. Odd. Eventually, I think I crashed a bit. maybe it was too much? what I know is I didnt get self effects until I added the secnd shot. Too early to tell.

That evening i went to my GFs place and I hit my usual mix there too. I scrubbed off my application points with witch hazel then a very thorough shower, so I think I got all the previous stuff off. My mix was 1xa314, 2xIH, 1xTuth. to this I added 1xp97.

Now things have been stressful for my gf with the storm and all, but I felt her to be moer distant as well. Not as into touching me or being affectionate. I didn’t feel as deeply connected as we usually are. Whether this was real or the effects of p97 on me, or just a bad night, i don’t know yet. But initial results are not promising. And yet, I know I feel kind of good on this stuff, so its hard for me to imagine that it may be to blame here,

So for now it remains a bit of a mystery in all counts. I may be not dosing correctly, it may just be a bad day, or it may be this molecule is not congruent with me. Time will tell with further testing. I have to think there is a place for this molecule, from the self effects alone.

I think I will try the p95 later on tonight when I see her and see how that goes.

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P75 report-

So maybe this wasnt the best day to test out P75.
I woke up and my gf was supposed to take the day off to hang on my last day of vaca, but due to the storm decided to go in for a half day. Long story short- she got out even later than usual, so I" spent my day sitting around/ I was a bit pissed off, even though I understood the storm, and the nature of our jobs kind of were to blame. In this irritated state I applied 1xa314, 1xtuth under shirt and sweater, 3xih, p83 and 1xp75 at 5 mcgs.

By the time I got together with her at her place, I was very stand-offish and very irritated. Enough to put her off as well. She’s a “lets talk it out type of person” and although I should have just washed off the mones and chilled, I went at it. It wasnt a screaming match or argument, but it was confrontational. Here is what i noticed under the circumstances that stood out. My body language and approach were completely different than usual, I was very “alpha” even though I knew I was probably wrong here. and even when I came to the conclusion that I was wrong I wasnt very apologetic about it. It wasnt until I realized I had a new mix on that I was able to curb myself enough to somewhat smooth things out. But even then I stayed very strong and sort of cold in my body language.

We went out for drinks with the lingering tension in the air. You’d think I would have washed the stuff off first, but it was like I was in a fuck it mode. Even then, things started to even out as we drank and talked and relaxed. I noticed a few women give me a double take, but not sure how much of it was the mones except for one girl who I was standing behind and could not have seen me who turned to eyeball me and continued to do so for the time I was there.

So things going better we went back to her place and proceeded to go at it like rabbits in heat. twice before bed, once in the morning and once after breakfast. TMI, i know, but even though we are pretty sexual, that was ALOT.. i mean very long and wild sex and she is usually more vanilla in bed.

So I think the effects lasted well into the night and into the next day. I’ve been reading about p75 since I got back in detail and i now realize it wasnt a good moment to add it into the mix. Especially at that dose. If it wasnt for that high dose of IH things might have been much worse.

So in summary here is what I noticed.. p75 is very agressive, extremely so, but very sexual as well. I am going to dilute this a bit and see how it pairs with other mones one by one. This is some powerful stuff.

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P130 tests

1st test, cold outside, 40s, in the NE.

3 sprays of p130 mostly to neck.

stayed indoors after applications, so the self effects started to hit after 30 mins or so. I found that a situation I was worried about was no longer bothering me, I was more laid back, and even though those issues were still there, I sensed they had less power over me. When I would do a task I found myself more involved in it, not because I was more focused. Rather, I was just less distracted by negative self talk and worry.

After the first hour or so, I really had an urge to socialize, to get out of the house. I wet to drop off my laundry and noticed that the lady- mid 40s asian- was looking me in the eye more and just “lit up”. there was also another lady there, about 30s, who would not take her eyes off me. Not in a sexual way, but more in the “I like you, you make me feel good way”.

Heading out I was walking to the store and there was a young blonde standing outside smoking, From about 7 feet away- she was downwind from me- she looked up and even though she seemed to be in a serious mood, looked at me and kind of brightened up. The only way to describe it.

After a shower later in the evening I went to help a friend at a job I sprayed 3x at 5 mcgs, and walked in to find 2 women in their 20s there. Although i did not know them, when my friend introduced us I noticed the blonde almost lean in to the handshake like she was going to peck me on the cheak, out of character, I went ahead and leaned into her and did so, and although everyone obviously took note, it was ok and not as awkward as it should have been. Everything was ok.

There turned out to be another woman there- asian, late 30s i guess, who was eyeballing me big time. No-one introduced us so i went ahead and did. She lit up as well, and seemed to want to get to know me and I kept spotting her look at me. The odd thing was I would usually feel awkward or go in for the kill, but I felt fine just smiling at her when I caught her eye and it felt ok. She looked ok with it as well.

From this first impression of p130, i get a sense that it makes things “ok”, that its a social mone that makes people feel comfortable in their own skin. I like this mone, but need to do ore testing. I’m planning on adding it to my mix and see how it goes.

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Posted these in other threads, putting here for record keeping:
P97:
Another putative I received a while ago and have been playing with. Now that the bottle has run out here are my notes..

I received this in a 12.5mcg spray. Right off the bat, let me say this is one confusing molecule.. and only towards the very end of the bottle did I start to get an idea of what was going on.

SELF EFFECTS: This is where most of my observations have been noted, as I never really got much of a chance to see how others where reacting due to the self effects of this putative . At 12.5mcgs I noticed and almost downward pulling effect. Not bad, just that feeling of having something on your mind that you cant get at.. at 25mcgs that fog clears and what I tend to feel is awesome. For example driving in to work, or going to the park or anything you do, you feel free, open and great.. not in a caffienated buzz sense, but in a very steady no worries sense.. Its like I would look at my life and everything about seemed to be on track and getting better.. a real good feeling.

Here is where it gets confusing.. sometimes I’d wear it at work or to see some friends or family and I’d feel like crap… angry, stressed, impatient. So much so that I became very weary of using it around people.

It took a while for me to figure out that the problem was that people felt like an interference , and annoyance to this good feeling. Its as if I was much more critical or expectant of people and less willing to put up with them.. kind of like they were a drag. This lead to annoyance and anger because they actually hadn’t don anything. It may be that this molecule was bringing out some subconscious issues I was having with people in general, fam and friends most.

I noted nothing sexual about this putative , but now that the bottle is done, I wish I had tried it when I was feeling more sociable. I think I should add that I havent been very much in a socializing mood for a bit now and that may have been the issue all along. It was subtle so I dont think i would have noticed it, if not for thinking about this none.

As to people reactions, I think they were tainted a bit by my mood. But even when I would be cranky and short with them people seemed to want to know what was up with me and wanting to be around me. Wanting to do things for me. Not in that “Your an alpha I need to please you” way, but in that “I care about you and want to make you happy” sort of way.

Very very interesting molecule, I wish there were more people testing it. I want to move on to other molecules that Androtics sent me like TAK , as well as others I’m ordering.. but this molecule really really warrants more attention. There is just something about it…

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Posted in another thread placing here for easy reference:

P130:
There have been a few putatives I’ve been playing with for a few months now and havent been posting much due to being extremely busy. But I want to summarize my findings on each. This is about P130 :

P130 I recieved at 5mcgs per spray

SELF EFFECTS: none. at least for me.. I’ve tried up to 20mcgs at home or going about doing my errands and not much as far as self effects were noted. Maybe I was a bit more relaxed? but if so, it was very subtle.

EFFECTS on OTHERS: I tried up to 10mcgs alone, without wearing anything else and did notice some effects on women.. actually, mostly younger girls. For example, a friend of mine works in video production and I met him and his co-workers for a drink one night.. I wore 10mcgs. There is this extremely cute and sexy blonde girl that I have met several times that works with him.. adorable, cute, about 25 yrs old, and very petite- you know the type. She has always been nice to me, but no signs of interest, never really got to talking to one another. I am older and she always treated me more like a “sir” anything else. On this night she was all eyes on me. Smiling, drawing me into conversation, asking me questions. It was so obvious that my friend later warned me about seeing her due to her age.. I laughed, and said I wasnt interested, and he replied.. “yeah, but it looks like she is”.
Next time I saw her at work I decided to add my usual a314 / ammo / ih mix with 10mcgs of p130 .. same results.

AS to my gf, no effect that I could note. She is 35 and italian.. actually I got very little as far as older women or latinas.

CONCLUSION: Its as if the p130 makes you less scary or just more attractive to younger women- especially white blondes. It seems to buffer none pretty well for that younger target. I didn’t have enough to really get at what about it was attracting them. But if I had to guess it imparted a sense of coolness or approachability.. but by the look in their eyes and smiles I’d say there was something about p130 that just makes younger girls feel good.

I really wish it had as much of an effect on the type of women I am more attracted to.. I tend to like more the more mature, 30ish, sexy type as opposed to the young, cutie type..

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Without any a314, I’ve been testing IG these last two days

day 1: 2xig, 1xIH, and some leftover TUTH from the previous evening

Self effects: I noticed an uplifted mood, confidence somewhat like a314, but different in the sense of a real positive attitude. I would call it an optimistic confidence. Its a good feeling, nowhere near as respectful as a314, but I like it..

Others: The one major event that occurred was an asian coworker, who never really talks to me at all- she works in a different dept, and though we see each other daily, she only speaks to me about work. On this day she was in my dept and I noticed her hovering near my area.. eventually she started up a convo, telling me about her life, her family etc.. its the first time I noticed any sense of attraction. I am sure the IH also opened her up, but her seaming attraction and attention was definitely the IG.
Very interesting..

2nd day

3xIG, 1xIH

self: same as above, a bit more intense. I realy like the feeling this gives me

Others: I was hoping to see if the previous asian lady came around again, but she was in the unit much at all. At one point, as she was talking to someone else I noticed her looking at me.
later on as I walked by her office, she noticed it was me and I noticed her look at me almost expectantly.

This is all very new behavior. I was pure coworker before, she showed zero, less than zero, personal interest.. IG has made her notice. I still like some none/sexual mixed in with it, and I added it later as it feels better to me.. more “complete”.. but obviously some women are very attracted to this vibe.

More testing to come

19

Molecule K, aka TAK 12.5 mcg spray in a togo:

First time I got got I used 1x to the neck to note self effects- nothing was really noted. after an hour I added a second shot.. after about half an hour I noticed I was a bit more relaxed in a way. Its like my body was bit more relaxed but my mind was still normal. Well, not completely, I felt like the relaxation of my mind was making my thoughts more relaxed… but I didn’t noticed a pull one way or another on my thoughts.. it was neither a happy feeling or a sad feeling..
Maybe I am immune to its effects, but thats all I’ve noticed from self effects for now.. I plan to try 3x later today and see how that hits.

I have tried this two other times around others.. first I added it to my regular mix of ammo2x, tuth 1x, IHx2 and IGx1 around my gf. I added one shot at 12.5 of tak.

I am used to this combo around her and know its effects on her so I can sense that the tak added a sort of calm groundedness to the mix.. very very subtle. as we spoke at a restaurant I noticed that even when we spoke of certain issues she and I are having we remained very calm about it. I felt, for that evening it was a good note.. but later on, when we got busy, I noticed that it took longer for her to get aroused and finish than usual. The sex was much more laid back and lazy than usual as well.

I added it to a mix of IGx2 and IOx1 at work. I noticed a certain tiredness from everyone around me. Not a crabby sort of tiredness but a sort of lazyness that didn’t interefere with work, just made people less prone to their usual dramatics. I must say, I like that.

Last night I used it again with my regular combo of tuthx2, ammo and IGx1 when my gf came over. Again, the sex was more laid back than usual- but oddly, not very sensual for it. I felt a little disconnected from her during it, yet everything seemed to work. Again, it took much longer for her to finish, and I didn’t finish at all.

So far I am thinking two things about this molecule

  1. it cuts down on emotional highs and lows, its kind of the anti-drama pheremone
  2. I am thinking its not a very sexual/sensual pheremone either. I’m actually starting to think its counter-productive in the bedroom. I like slow lazy sex, but I expect a certain sensuality to be emphasized, for the emotional connection to be there. This seems, so far, to be the worst of both worlds- lazy sex, without the emotional highs, stunting the sensuality of the moment.
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A few observations on IG. In the absence of a314 I’ve been using this alot as my base in mixes or alone. I never really realized just how great it was as I always defaulted to a314 since I loved it so much.

Here are some things I’ve noted about it.

Not only does IG instill confidence- which seems to be well knows, there is a very optimistic note to it. Something I do not get from a314. A314 is very confident and grounded, but its more of a realist vibe to it.. Its a man who is grounded in the moment feeling. IG has this optimism that is what I think people are referring to when they say its got a “younger” feel to it.

Over the past week there have been several events that would normally have made me feel pretty pessimistic, if I were to be honest about it. Things that would have tried my patience had I been wearing a314, I’m sure. Yet with IG, what I have felt was “it’ll work out, no need to stress, just do this…”

Not to say that a314 is not a take action sort of phero, but, again, its much more here and now, push/force thinsg to bend to my will..

I must say, I am really enjoying IG very much. I wonder if the IG/a314 combo will give me the best of both worlds or would the IG just ruin the a314 vibe?
Guess I’ll have to try…