Wow great report and you are exactly right. I found the lower numbers are highly sexual and the higher numbers were more social. I found that age range to the lower numbers hit the older women and the higher number hit the younger women. Very good testing.
I may now have to revisit some of these tests down the road and think about the age thing with this.
I found MX48… just a hit monster with women 40 and older.
So maybe the lower numbers have more none or other molecules that act like it and the higher numbers have less.
Very nice observations that I missed and am glad you point this out. Oh and when I was 28 I was doing the same thing and partying a lot. I actually quite drinking because I got myself in a lot of trouble he he. I think this is normal to be honest. Just be safe.
Cheers Justin. I can tell you that these mxs definitely do not contain any enone I know that for sure.. So the reason it is hitting in different age groups is because of a different molecule.. The range seems to be getting more social as the age reduces. P130 does this in a way but I wouldn’t want to guess as to what molecules are in it.. I cant believe I gave my mx48… away to a non believer who reported it to be a dud! Think I’m gonna have to try get it back.
I think my problem is simply with the spirits when I stick to ale i just about behave myself. When I knock spirits I go crazy and forget vast periods of chaotic activity.. I ain’t ready to quit yet! Just like pheromones certain drinks complement my behaviour, some don’t.
Couldn’t resist just had to bang my sisters mate again. Was going to do the same mix as last weekend but couldn’t find my mx so went with ol’ classic fall out mix
3 drops a314
10mcg p96
1.3 sprays shinex2
6mcg p130
This is great for a second time meet mix. You don’t get a lot of attention from others but your target makes things just too easy for you. Which is good because its best that your target isn’t noticing stares from others. I think I’ve decided upon 3 drops as my sweetspot in mixes, 2 drops when running it solo. She was describing her attraction as chemical, I corrected her and said it was pheromonal. This is good as the meet is completely in the agreement of just sex and we are going to keep it secret. She seemed eager to continue doing this so she is now fwb2. My member is literally so sore right now, she has an insatiable hunger for sex. I supplemented ashwaghanda and shissandra prior to the sesh which allowed me to sustain wood for 6 hours at night and 1-2 hours the next morning. I actually have a blood blister at the base of my shaft. Saying all that I did manage to shit myself earlier in the meet at a pub urinal. Can’t believe I got away with that. I think I’m happy to just be women’s toy boys at the mo. Dont think I want anything serious unless someone really swooped me off my feet. This allows me to be less picky with women and maybe lead to me being able to nail a ons with a stranger. I have still never achieved this as I have always thought its worth a few more goes. This mix literally always works perfect for me straight off the bat and straight through to the next day. Sometimes I add a little tac but it is not necessary. I do think the small amount of p130 really positively effects the mix, it does give a slight touchy disinhibition, enhances the shine, creates a social ease. She was pretty talkative the whole time and I can only contribute this to p130. It wasn’t the trying to qualify themselves speech that a314 can sometimes provoke. Just general banter. I think it would be interesting to do a sex mix of TAC and IO on her. She is orgasmic and I have a good baseline for her without tac now so i could test how it effects her. She was also very verbal again during coitus so I’m sure she could create some even more hilarious sex talk.
Tested the exact same mix as above but with fwb1. She has never been exposed to 3 drops before only 1 in mixes or 2 solo. Now I thought I had this fall out mix dialed but I found her to be a bit too talkative. Was difficult to get a word in edgewise at times. Maybe have to take the p130/shine down to one spray or maybe up the p96. Now the mix was hitting her but not that hard, although pleasantly well enough. I wonder how much so sometimes as she has no sense of smell. I know they do have some effect on her. Still yet to do much enone testing on her, still she is yet to initiate. The reason I figure this mix doesnt get you noticed that much is because shine can create a cloud where everyone is happy and it’s not specifically directed at you. With a314 people give you space. This mix opens up once Interactions become physically closer to you. Great date/sex mix.
Also did some more testing with mx48… and everytime I have people speaking over the top of me. Io like chatter going on.
3 sprays mx47…
So reportedly its social/sensual. Local boozer with friends. I would say it is social but not overly, no Io like effect just an ease of unrushed conversation. Its not attention grabbing at all. Had a couple of sensual moments. Girl23yo friend from outer edge of friend group. She was the recently split up one who gave me a hair flip last week. Well anyway she was very smiley with me, we had a couple of long gazes.. I know what I was thinking. She also found 3 opportunities to put her hands on me in conversion. They were like reassuring hand/arm grabs mid sentence, but quite affectionate. Also when she left she gave me a very long hug I squeezed her tight from the middle of her back. I think it was a notably long hug that showed some increased attraction from her.. My other friend said she needed a f buddy. If I get half a chance I’m gonna be offering my services.
Bit of a cocktail I know. Was going for light erone attraction/comfort, social/sensual and the happy care free edge. Sounds great on paper. 2 bars then club. Its not a show stopper and wasn’t bringing out any obvious overt hits but I reckon its a good mix. Wasted a fair bit of time chatting to a bird with the friend group. She was making it very easy to talk to her, I would say going very well. I should have posted up but I went to get a drink and my mate stole my seat. He utilized my cloud effectively. Later he managed to take her home and bang that, she was hot reps to him.. She was taller than me and wearing heals it was a no go for me as soon as she stood up. We did end up in a gay bar as it was gay mates birthday.. I didn’t have much female luck there, I think in a club situation you need something more attention grabbing… I wish I had some mx297 or tac left as they are my pick up pheros. I’m missing that mx297 attention I get in the club. Note to hank buddy I had an outrageous gay hit straight on arrival. Guy came straight up to me asked me what I was doing. I said I’m going to the toilet he said I’m coming with you. He tried to put his hands down my trousers, got as far as my pubes. I quickly told him i was heterosexual. Lol.. I cannot believe how fast tracking and forward he was… P130 in the mix again!
I just ordered P130 and will have to be careful with it with my new gay friends. I am finding out gay men are really attracted to Rone mixes and mixes with IG in it. They seem to like the status based mixes. At least from my personal experience with it.
Lol this was in an outrageous gay bar in the early hours. With my gay mates they are not that gropey, although one did mount me once when I topped up tuth/tac over a base of a314 once. Again had p130 on me too. They just love me… I’ve found gays attracted to mx297 too.. Sometimes an accidental raise of my eyebrows can curtail very forward advances from gay men… Its something to be careful with but if your comfortable with your sexuality its fine.. I’m finding one particular gay mate has lots of hot female friends, they are good to know and great fun on the dance floor. If only was gay eh.
Since P130 is in Summer Ammo, I’m wondering if I just don’t have the young man vibe to pull it off. I’m still not getting much hits from P130, at least not the overt hits like you’re getting. Most of the guys I hang with are late 30s and older. Maybe they’re thinking about mounting me, but they’re sure not showing it. Maybe gay men in my region are more reserved.
I haven’t paired it with anything yet, but maybe I’ll try it with TUTH or A314.
You gotta pair it with something unless your going for a subtle anti anxiety mix. It does have some attraction solo but I dont use it for that and wouldn’t count on it to do much… I literally always pair it with shine and that literally goes with everything. Great on top of a314, ig etc.. I’m on an ammo hiatus at the mo.
I’ve listed p130s qualities before and am very familiar with them. they are;-
Care free/anti anxiety/calming
Internal chatter removal
Smiley stares at 15mcg plus solo (rarely)
Slight touchy disinhibition/ occasional draping effect
The male helper vibe mhv (this is the most obvious and useful to me) 10-15mcg solo men are offering me their services all too happy to help. Apparent through all ages
I believe it is a slight social, when paired with shine its very chatty
Projects youth and good health
Opens up the young ones
One of the main reasons I like p130 so much is it is a very safe phero and has some buffering capabilities which have hung around for as long as 9 hours for me before.
In mixes I use between 3.3-6.6mcg… 10-15 mcg solo.. If going higher these are just experimental phero bomb mixes.
Hank buddy I agree with Justin about gays and erone… You should try a314/ig, shine, p130… Add p96 if you want it more romantic… A side note I have realized on p96 is at 10mcg I get the beautifying effects. But when I go higher like 20-50mcg that’s where the emotional connections occur.
He got that idea from me. It has always been my position that male pheromones are what’s required to attract gay men. I’ve had great luck with A314 and Ammo. Lots of DIHL from guys. They don’t want to approach me though. Part of it is because of safety.
I’ll definitely pair P130 with Ammo or A314. I’m helping a friend move tomorrow. I’ll try it out on him.
Ok then I agree with you! I’m finding getting people to approach you is a different kettle of fish.. My pick up mixes tend to be disinhibiting putatives and mood elevators/socials… That’s atleast what I need for my terrible night game.. Good luck with the move!
Ha Ha. I ordered P130 and will have to test with Ammo around my new gay friends and see what it does. I don’t have summer ammo or I would just test that.
Ok so Saturday I targeted the girl who I talked about in the mx47… post… I went to the pub with the friend group wearing mx48… hoping to receive the same luck its bought me in the past.. Things were very smiley and receptive from her, I didn’t feel she was overly wooed though. She’s 23 slim not in anyway forward, reserved dainty and pretty. I know shes always been into older men though so maybe a314 could have been a better choice. Anyway we went to some guys house everything was fine really, rather blury… A big cuffuffle did kick off at one point and some friends had to leave through some misplaced jealousy. Although me and the target stayed. I added one spray of mx 48… hoping for a possible escalation or verbal response from her… She was busy trying to excuse our friends actions to the host maybe she was a little worked up. I did however make a remark to her something along the lines of her maybe spending a night with me.. She didn’t respond to this… I caressessed her neck at one point and she said its not going to work. Lol ouch. I quizzed my female friend about it in hindsight and she said that she cant remember anything about it.. This could be a lie. Although today on fb I have received an invite for her birthday drinks next Friday. Its practically her two other of her close friends I know well, about 6 good looking single girls I dont know, 1 good looking taken girl, 3 gay men and maybe 2-3 other straight men I do not know.. Errrrr… Result… Its possible she is just showing me a little resistance and is attracted to me facilitating things to escalate or it’s a prime opportunity to hit on a bundle of her fit mates with very little competition. Either way its seems like some seriously good odds for some very good female attention. I’m thinking 4 drops a314 post up and let it come to me. Seeing as I dont know or give a shit about the other males there I might even wear some enone í ˝í¸
Warning do not read if you are easily offended by sex, drugs and rock and roll…
Sunday fwb2 meet up
Ok I wanted to test the dregs of my tac on her as I have a very good baseline for her without it during coitus. My mix;-
2drops a314
1/2 spray ammo
3 dabs from 5mcg tac bottle
1 dab from shinex2 bottle
She was notably more touchy and turned on.. Italians like their enone. Even the tiniest bit on me I knew what it was doing. I forget how much I love tac sometimes it just does everything. It is so disinhibiting verbally and physically. Its on my Xmas list… I miss it so much.. 2-3 drinks and we’re back to mine..
I get 2 more dabs of TAC in pre coitus. She just melts and moans… I fucked her literally all night, with the odd break to bash red wine, valium or joints… She was less vocal but coming like crazy.. I think maybe I got 3 orgasms out of her last week without tac. Sunday night with tac she said she had lost count… I had two… fked her up the arse and came on her face. Next morning I’m like fuck work lets just go grab some supplies and spend the rest of the day f*ing, drinking, smoking weed and popping valium again. We were out of it but kept the craziness going till 4 or 5am again, quick hilarious visit to local boozer too. I did sneak a little smear of p130 in on day two. It had a very positive effect. She quickly became more touchy, sensual and smoochy. She kept wanting romantic kisses. I wouldn’t say she was anywhere as vocal during coitus as she was with the mx but I swear it sounded like she said I love you on more than one occasional during those moments of deep pounding.. I didnt take it serious I just presumed it was her instinctual verbal response to how she was feeling. Either that or “i love it” or something else In italian.
To sustain all that wood i consumed about 5gs of ashwaghanda over 3 days prior, 3gs of schissandra and 3-4 golden root pills… all of this carried me juice over to Tuesday morning which sustained two more pretty intense sessions…
Lesson learnt tac does increase intensity and frequency of orgasms!
I Think I’ve proved a little theory about enone and p130 to myself…
4 sprays ammo
20mcg p130
Supermarket… Large quantities of enone make people think you are taller than you actually are. I have come across this before in the past. And when I get to 20mcg p130 the mhv reverses, ie men want me to help them…
I’m in the alcohol spirits aisle.. I’m 5’10.5" naff all really. A guy maybe 1" shorter than me asks me to help reach the highest furthest bottle of jd on the shelf. I do it but literally only just. At 20mcg I’ve witnessed this reverse mhv before over a314… And last year I used to rock 15mcg enone solo at times and once got a I thought you were taller last time I saw you comment, when not wearing any pheros. These are not once off observations.
Was a bit of an awkward opener for me, I turned up alone and the place was very busy and there wasn’t many openers. I worked a bit opening people up and it can create a nice latching on effect.. The mx smells of vanilla notably, my friend commented on it, asked what it was, I said tom ford.. She preferred my other scent either the Armani code or just neroli.
thing is I swear on this forum people are misinterpreting hits as definite opportunities for hook ups. To me unless that women is actually picked up I cannot validate it as a pick up mix. The reason I say this is because I spend a lot of time talking to women who I’m thinking fucking hell she’s game, and she actually isn’t! Eg last night..
Was talking to a cute, slightly dumpy, short blonde, 7/10… We talking for a while.. She had big breasts. It was load we had to lean in to hear each other. We must have been talking for 10-15minutes of which I felt her erect nipples rubbing up against my arm the whole time… this is just like the boob bump but more a nipple rub. She was showing all the obvious signs of attraction, latching on a bit, constantly rubbing her nipples against me. I did a little rub back with my hand, no resistance just more rubbing. Later on I ask her about her love life and she’s been in an relationship for 1.5yrs… All obvious indicators but no intention…
Spent loads of time talking to insanely beautiful women last night, doing a good job too I would say, just to find out they have boyfriends… I’m getting quicker at finding it out though and it is fun. The beautiful ones do like to be approached on a314. I found myself doing dihls at 2 or 3 women last night. I think I want to go back to that watering hole again tonight talent there is just too good.
I think that a “hit”, a “catch” and a “score” are different . In my book, a catch is “picking up the girl”, a “score” is “doing the girl”, but a girl rubbing her nipples on you in a purely volunteer way, all evening, even though if she has a boyfriend, man, in my book, that’s a “hit” . I had one of those recently and her boyfriend was right next to her as well as my girlfriend , not calling that a hit would be not doing justice to the situation.
I agree that “hit” and “IOI” are sometimes mutually mislabeled on this forum, for instance, a hair flip is not a “hit”, so to speak, it’s an IOI, I often make that mistake myself. It’s possible that we have different definitions though. I’ m probably the one who is wrong because english is not my primary language so I kinda made up those concepts and chose those words based on loose translations, lol.
That old chinese biscuit used to read: “That which doesn’t hurt is all good”.
I enjoy reading you, man. Your journal is awesome.
Thanks dude.. Maybe I need to reword what I was trying to get across. I definitely rate the nipple rub as a hit. As you know í ˝í¸ it is quite enjoyable… Last night I would have liked to pick up a nice girl. I know pick up is a lot dependant on your game but pheromones can make a situation steer in a certain direction… Can make pick up easier… I’m out of my pick up pheros atm and am not ordering till next year… Status and sexuals are attractive with game but don’t really have the effect of women overtly trying to make me pick them up. The only pheros that have done that for me are my tac/shine/p130 mix and mx297.
I want to add a slight putative sexual to my tac/shine/p130 mix… This mix consistently had women approaching and initiating with me. It made pick up so much easier as the interested ones would make themselves apparent and do the work for you… I’m finding with a314 and ammo they are less useful for pick up, even though they are very attractive, as I am having to go about doing the work introducing myself and slowly working out who is interested in me.
I think what it boils down to is people use pheromones for different reasons… A lot of the time I use them to try and pick up women with the intention of having casual sex with them.. Its very easy to effectively use almost all the pheros as relationship boosters. Sex mixes involving megadosing putatives and high enone etc is also easy to achieve with people already committed to you… I find picking up women pretty difficult… And I’m finding dis inhibitors and mood elevators the most useful. My experiments are still early days.
Maybe gay men in my region are more reserved. 
, not calling that a hit would be not doing justice to the situation.