Von Phero On The Run -- A Journal

Hey space heads! Only have just got round to introducing myself, apologies.. I’m caucasian 27 YO male discovered pheros about 7 years ago in the form of attractant (uk supplier androstenone product). still haven’t finished the bottle as its powerful and still seems to work the same but now i looked at the market again it seems to have exploded with different products for different occasions!. So i got the starter pack.. testing has already begun…

Hey and welcome

How has the other pheromone product worked for you? What results did you see!?

Also, you missing two things before you can qualify for the gift certificate($25).

The first is what is your personality like, and the second is in what area in your life do you hope pheromones would enhance?

Take care

I know that stuff - it was one of the first phero products I bought and not an unreasonably bad product, although it is Androstenone in an isopropyl alcohol base and lack of scent meant it diffused poorly - but in the right environments and close-up, it got rather decent results - enough to convince me that it was going further with pheros. :slight_smile:

After I switched to AD products, things got a lot better in terms of all-round usability but I still have some stashed at the back of the cupboard and it gets incoroprated into mixes now and then - they do sell you a lot, esp on the 3-for-2 :smiley:

At 27, and if you are looking for something in a similar vein, then TUTH is probably the one - maybe 2x TUTH as Attractant works out at approx 6mcg Androstenone per spray as opposed to 2x TUTH’s 5mcg - although the far better diffusion and extra sexual steering in TUTH might make it worth your finding your basic dose with the 1x product.

For more balanced/all-round attraction, Ammo might be the better choice as it is a mix of the 3 main pheros and is much more usable in daytime, at work etc - The FF22/World Edition scent might suit UK/EU sensibilities better as the Standard/FF21 scent is quite powerful. Again if you are already used to a higher None product, the 2x might suit better but testing with 1x is still viable. At 27, you are at the upper end of the age range where 1x is viable and 2x is looming - We all produce less Androstenone as we age.

Well attractant is great but very powerful, could get DIHL at 2 sprays, 1 spray sometimes did nothing… 3 sprays great compliance and hornyness, free stuff, eagerness to please, but testosterone issues with men… Women get very flushed and compliant but is a bit of a wild beast and can get you into fights. Not a good product for groping strangers with without lots warm up you can.. I used it for a bit and ended up in a LTR for 6 years which has only just ended. Forgot completely about pheromones as I no longer felt i needed them. But anyway I am back on the market and looking for some fun, nothing too serious though as i need a break from all that to concentrate on myself..

Thanks for the detailed response mobocaster. I thought Ammo would be the best for me but the scent is just far too strong to feel i can get away with wearing without it being noticeable. I went out the other night and did some testing with the new line.
2 x mx297
1 x IS
1 x TUTH
1 x molecule C
This worked great for attraction, had rude boys singing to me as i walked past, bartenders fighting to serve me, a very attentative excited party like audience. But girls weren’t approaching me really.

I had also sprayed my mate with 2 x TUTH and he was getting fire in the eyes of girls he had already seen. I also sprayed another mate with MX297 and TUTH….

This is where i made the mistake of letting both my mates have another spray of TUTH each as well as myself… We were all at this tiny bar with like 7 sprays of TUTH between us and i was like shit i think we’ve OD’ed…. I went to order a pint and they said “i aint serving you!” and i was like “why?” he said i was “leering” ! and we had to leave. We laughed and figured it must be the spray and left… My mate said he reckoned because i was talking to the bartenders chick he got jealous, although i was not doing anything overtly sexual, or at least more than normal..

So we went back to the bar where before we were received so great and told them what happened. He then said i looked like a paedophile! i was like what and he retracted it quickly but what the fuck MX297 + too much TUTH!

Oh and I have lost the TUTH!

Oh great didn’t realise I was going to get a gift certificate! The mix I am hoping to achieve will have women jumping into my arms, feeling comfortable and then drag me off with them? Women around my age group… Any suggestions?

Yes, all those reactions are in line with too much plain Androstenone and your None-massive, well, I’m not surprised. :smiley: Even if you do share with friends, its always worth keeping a few tricks for yourself. :wink:

Well, MX297/TUTH is a good start for this kind of mix - If you are a halfway fun/social person, then that mix will bring-on the rest with only a little effort.

Not convinced the IS/TAC will add anything as its an already very happy/sexy/social combo (adding too much to MX297 can drown it), although the TAC itself could get useful later - before going to bed with someone. All the other combos are good at your age as 27 is on the cusp of younger social/sexy mixes and more mature and more overtly sexual/status mixes (eg A314/TUTH). Women tend to start leaning towards them in their mid 20s and by their 30s, the preference is most obvious.

Yes, Standard Ammo Scent is quite brutal by UK standards but the FF22/World Edition scent is good, much more usable at work etc and much more in line with our cologne sensitivities, There is no difference in the actual phero content, although Summer Ammo does have more social/comfort steering. Don’t let that stop you getting Ammo. Also, Ammo/IS is a great sexy/feelgood mix and you can use TUTH to boost the Androstenone proportion when you move from pub to club but it still retains balance from the otherr pheros in the mix.

P83 and P96 are other secondaries you should be looking-up. P83 helps with physical disinhibition/touch, whilst P96 seems to help with emotional release - if there is attraction/passion to get out there, it will help a lot.

this is some great information to start getting on with. Can i replace my TUTH with attractant seeing as i’ve lost it? new mix for me then
1 x spray mx297
1 x attractant
plus putatives 1 spray of each?

Yes, you coild . 1 or 2 sprays MX297 sprayed over 1 spray Attractant would be a good start IMO, . The scent/diffusion promoting components in the 297 should help carry the Attractant off your skin. Leave a couple of minutes between each layer for the solvents to dry down. Remember that Attractant lacks the steering mones of TUTH, so the effective dose may differ - although youhave a good idea of how it behaves already. The MX297 will moderate it nicely though - I have used this combo with great effectiveness. IIRC it was 2-4 sprays Attractant for me but I’m older and need more None in a mix.

Oh and spray it on skin (with good circulation), not on/under clothes or hair - IIRC the Attractant bumff said you could use it on clothes etc but this will give you more problems with diffusion and you don’t want to know how much hard scrubbing with hot soapy water is needed to get it out of your hair and to stop the breakdown products stinking - OW!

Putatives are a little more difficult - it depends what dose you have, your own body chemistry, any other pheros and the situation. I’d start with a 10mcg spray of all of these mentioned and take the dose up and down till you find what suits you best. :slight_smile:

Mobocaster is one of the best if not the best when it comes to giving off suggestions and advice. We basically learn from him all the time so whatever he suggest, I back 100%.

Your in good hands

Take care

ok great. so you say that attractant lacks the steering molecules, couldn’t i not counteract this with some instant openness? I haven’t actually tested that one yet.. looks like i’ll be making another order promptly for putatives!

Attractant (or TUTH)/IO is certainly a viable mix - around younger women in clubs and the like, IS also goes well with this. Its still sexual but much more social/approachable/talkative.

I wouldn’t use it with MX297 though as that would be just too social and your chances of sexualising it effectively are not good! Its no replacement for the steering in TUTH either - Only part of that is even known.

ok great, i’m going to go shopping with a mate later, will test out ammo/IO/IH….. Will one spray of ammo do anything you reckon? Its just 2sprays will smell too much i think and i’m not a cologne wearer.

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thank you!

Soooooo…… I’m seeing my ex gf this weekend to catch up and help me pack. I am not expecting us to get back together at all and Its only been about a month since we split. i want her to think shit i’m an idiot….! she has normally reacted well to attractant, alas i was wearing that when we split up, but being incongruent with enones image.

Suggest me an ex girlfriend mix? Would mx297 be bad idea here? I was thinking a314 or mx297 + attractant + molecule C (reason i say molecule C is because she is normally quite insecure and finds it impossible to relax…. she also has a hard time coming as well as needs to be dominated, so alpha plus relaxing buffer is what she needs i think.

Mobocaster chime in please?

What pheromones do you have on you Other then those?

I agree on A314 because it demonstrates high value, AKA your the prize(AKA “how did I let him get out of my grasp”) I don’t agree with Tac being paired with it in this situation. Mx297 might be good here but honestly, without knowing exactly how you guys broke up, it’s really hard to suggest it, seeing that you used attractants around her when you split up. If you have another comfort pheromone, like IH, IO, P74, or shine(make her feel happy in your presence)

For your age( same as my age) I find Tac doesn’t mesh well with A314, unless it’s 2mcg

i have IS, IH, IO, A314, IG, Molecule C, Mx297, ammo (don’t want to use because of smell) and attractant….

A314 ! spray
attractant 1 spray
instant shine 1 spray
instant honesty 1 spray ???

so 40% of a spray of molecule c is acceptable??

Thank you for explaining more

Forget what I said about A314, leave it aside for now.

You would be using, instant openness, IG, instant shine, and a dap of ammo.

2 sprays instant gentleman, 1 spray instant shine. Shake each bottle before you spray. Of you can use ammo, I suggest this method; open up the bottle, put your thumb or index finger on the top, and dap it there, then run your index finger on one of your wrists. So one dap ammo, 2 sprays IG and one spray IS, one spray instant openness

Good luck.